PANASONIC LUMIX FZ1000 vs. SONY RX10 IV
Thanks Gene. I think I have sufficient feedback to make my decision. I truly appreciate your analysis.
Mark
Gene51 wrote:
I couldn't be happier. And as you probably know I am pretty fussy about gear. This was more than I ever envisioned spending on a bridge camera, but it is so much better than the competition I would have regretted saving a few $$ and getting a less capable camera. They really did a great job on it. Too bad they left out the ND filter and it can't focus and zoom at the same time, and raw files are 12 bit compressed (I think), but in every other way it is pretty exceptional.
Just take a look at the Lumix LX10, It's not a long distance camera, but it has a 1.4 lens and the same chip as the FZ1000 and shoots RAW, just look at it, fits in you shirt pocket.
Gene51
Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
alggomas wrote:
For me the price difference is huge and question whether the difference in quality to an amateur photographer is worth it. To take a magnifying glass out to examine every photo?
I would try both.
I do not doubt the reviewers but £1.800 for a heavy bridge camera?
If you are saying that because a photographer is an amateur they should settle for less quality - and it's just not you who says this - I think that is just wrong.
Why shouldn't an amateur consider an RX10M4, despite the steep price? It's a great camera, for amateurs, enthusiasts and pros. I know of one photojournalist who uses it exclusively, particularly because the alternative is considerably heavier - when you add a couple of lenses. At 2.5 lbs this camera is a total lightweight. It's not heavy by any measure, for what it offers. When you consider you can get the great lens that is on this camera in a slightly older model, the RX10M3, for a savings of $500, then you are giving up nothing in image quality, and only sacrificing a bit on AF performance.
I think that saying that the quality difference is so slight that you have "to take out a magnifying glass to examine each photo" is a bit of an exaggeration, don't you think? Anyway, it really is up to the individual to make whatever decisions need to be made to justify this or any other camera.
Gene51 wrote:
If you are saying that because a photographer is an amateur they should settle for less quality - and it's just not you who says this - I think that is just wrong.
Why shouldn't an amateur consider an RX10M4, despite the steep price? It's a great camera, for amateurs, enthusiasts and pros. I know of one photojournalist who uses it exclusively, particularly because the alternative is considerably heavier - when you add a couple of lenses. At 2.5 lbs this camera is a total lightweight. It's not heavy by any measure, for what it offers. When you consider you can get the great lens that is on this camera in a slightly older model, the RX10M3, for a savings of $500, then you are giving up nothing in image quality, and only sacrificing a bit on AF performance.
I think that saying that the quality difference is so slight that you have "to take out a magnifying glass to examine each photo" is a bit of an exaggeration, don't you think? Anyway, it really is up to the individual to make whatever decisions need to be made to justify this or any other camera.
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I posted the query and totally agree, Gene.
Mark
markngolf wrote:
I posted the query and totally agree, Gene.
Mark
Mark,
I'm watching this topic to see what you buy! What is your decision?
Bill
When I traded in my Canon DSLR and 1/2 a dozen lenses for the best bridge camera I could find, I had a lot of soul searching. Price was not a problem. I finished up with the Lumix FZ1000.
My Acceptance Rate in international Comps has not changed so I am more than pleased with my choice. In fact I wish I had changed sooner
Hi Bill,
I will most likely purchase the RX 10 IV. I am still considering taking my 5D MIII and three lenses. I've taken 3 long trips - Alaska 2005 - Italy France, Greece, Croatia in 2006 and Canyons of Utah, Arizona in 2014. On each, I had all my equipment in a backpack. Still have the backpack. Perhaps I'll rent the Sony RX10 IV. I have decided the Sony will be the be one If I do not take the Canon equipment. Thanks for the response, Bill
Mark
bsprague wrote:
Mark,
I'm watching this topic to see what you buy! What is your decision?
Bill
jeryh
Loc: Oxfordshire UK
Sony RX 10 1V, everytime !
markngolf wrote:
Hi Bill,
I will most likely purchase the RX 10 IV. I am still considering taking my 5D MIII and three lenses. I've taken 3 long trips - Alaska 2005 - Italy France, Greece, Croatia in 2006 and Canyons of Utah, Arizona in 2014. On each, I had all my equipment in a backpack. Still have the backpack. Perhaps I'll rent the Sony RX10 IV. I have decided the Sony will be the be one If I do not take the Canon equipment. Thanks for the response, Bill
Mark
My most productive travel camera is a Sony RX100 (original version). In this case productivity means best pictures that tell the story. It does not mean best files for pixel peeping. The RX100 is so small it never gets in the way and can be used unobtrusively.
Sadly, it gets little use now because I've become addicted to 4K shooting and, somehow, never got the RX100 that does that.
Why not consider the FZ 2500/2000, more on a par with the Sony but miles cheaper? I've just acquired one, grey market very impressive for an all-in-one solution.
markngolf wrote:
I'd be interested in hearing from members who have personal experience with the Panasonic. The cost differential is significant. I'll be taking a Blue Danube river cruise (Prague to Budapest) in August. I may opt to leave my DSLR's & lenses home and use one of the two mentioned bridge cameras. My main concern is quality of images and sufficient wide angle to capture scenes, buildings, ... I've read many of the reviews, especially on DPReview. I'll shoot RAW and process when back home. I have storage for the images.
Thanks for your response.
Mark
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Hi Mark,
for the trip you describe you will not need a a larger telephoto lens than - let us say 105mm.
However, you might appreciate a larger sensor.
If you want to go really small, I would recommend to take one of the Panasonic ZS line (24mm-720 Leitz zoom) shirt pocket cameras - 18 megapixel 1/2.3 sensor.
If you want to have a camera - doing almost everything but larger size, I would recommend to take the Panasonic ZS1000 (20 megapixel 24-600 zoom 1" sensor) - half the price of the Sony RX10 IV, but still with more than plenty of zoom power.
However, if you want to go small, but having a larger sensor (APS-C, 24 megapixel camera), I would recommend the Sony a6000 with 24-105 zoom - still a better deal for the price of Sony RX10 IV.
I will probably stumble to you there - with the same photo equipment I just described, soon.
For a trip like this I always need a wide angle lens rather than a long zoom.
Good Luck!
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