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Mar 23, 2018 08:15:38   #
Al Beatty Loc: Boise, Idaho
 
Hi Mark,

My D750 will focus in near dark situations almost every time. AND it has great picture quality. Take care & ...

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Mar 23, 2018 10:46:28   #
mrtaxi Loc: Old Westbury NY, Fort Lauderdale, FL
 
I suggest canon 5D Mark IV, paired with canon EF 100-400mm series II USM, it’s full frame and can handle shooting at a really high iso for extreme low light with little to no grain, and 35 megs permits cropping without much loss. The lens will give you the flexibility and reach you need.

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Mar 23, 2018 13:06:21   #
bpulv Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
Naptown Gaijin wrote:
I thought about that nice d850 with all those MPs, then read that the d750 with fewer MPs is a better gatherer of light, since each pixel is larger andore sensitive to light. I have read papers on this and am still confused. Some guys say you don't need anything over 12 or 20 or 25 MPs, while others are upgrading to the d850 or A7RIII and swear that the more MPs the better.

For my application, i will likely use a 300mm f2.8 prime with image stabilization. I will take that image and blow it up (crop) as much as needed to ensure we can get a positive ID on the subject.

I will shoot from inside a car because at my age (68), carrying a 9lb camera/lens combo while remaining invisible is too damn hard. Maybe I should hire some kid to push me around in a wheelchair??!?

Camera will also be used in a studio for other types of photography (when we are not out on the street) such as portraiture, macro, food, and products. So, while the Nikon Coolpix P1000 may be cool, it won't work for me. Need interchangable lenses, need Full Frame (or at least crop sensor), need at least 5FPS, and want but don't really need 4K video. Can get by with half way decent 1080 video, as long as parties are recognizeable.

Now I know most of you guys/gals are outstanding shutterbugs with superb resolution, no moire (whatever that is), great HDR, lo noise, no BD, and no CA, but for the outside nite shots, we aren't gonna be putting these in a gallery... a jury maybe, but only in a courtroom. For the other applications, yes, we will need as many of the good attributes as possible and as few of the negative (pun intended) ones as possible.

Think the choices have been narrowed down to Nikon, Canon, or Sony, and to a full frame. Beginning to think that a decent prime of at least 200-300mm with a large aperature, at least 2.8, is needed, to identify our target in low light 100 yards away. So, I think the lens manufacturers can be narrowed down to Tamron, Tokina, Sigma, and native.

Leaning toward D750 or D850, but still somewhat flexible.

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I thought about that nice d850 with all those MPs,... (show quote)


Let's compare the two full frame cameras using Nikon's published specifications that are most important to you:

Effective Resolution
D750 24.3 Mp
D850 45.7 Mp

Sensitivity (ISO)
D750 12,800
D850 25,600

Weight
D750 26.5 oz
D850 32.3 oz

Based on the specifications that are important for the night conditions you describe, the D850 is superior to the D750 with the exception of the 5.8 ounce weight advantage of the D750.

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Mar 23, 2018 18:11:01   #
Newsbob Loc: SF Bay Area
 
The Sony A7r3 focuses extremely quickly. It meets many of your specifications:

It has 43 megapixels, so easy to crop.
Excellent night capabilities with high ISO.
Dual memory card slots so you can shoot RAW in one and JPG in the other.
Sony has an excellent 400mm telephoto.
You can select to shoot with a silent shutter.

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Mar 23, 2018 19:39:44   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
Naptown Gaijin wrote:
I am a private investigator with experience since high school (class of '67), shooting Canon, Olympus, Minox, etc film cameras. For past 5 years, I have used Lumix cameras, most recently the DMC-TZ4, which has a nice f2.8 zoom lens. My question is this:
1. Which camera and lens combo would you use for the following conditions?
a. Target distance: up to 100 yards
b. Time: could be daytime or night (think of the goodnight kiss on the front porch with distant streetlight or porchlight or walking.to car in motel parking lot).
c. Maximum time from seeing target until target is out of sight averages 3-8 seconds, so can't waste time focusing/zooming, etc.
d. Generally, distance to target will be known in advance, and most shots will be taken from inside a parked vehicle which has 35% tinted side windows.

I'm thinking a D750 body, but have also been looking at the A7RIII. Would prefer to spend under $2,000 on the lens, as I have no other need for a tele.

I will also be using the body for other photography, such as food in a restaurant, products in a studio, commercial portraits, and exteriors of commercial establishments, thought nite shots are my bread and butter.

I like tilt screen; must have an EVF 'cause we don't want that screen lighting me up at night; must have some type of VR, OS, or IS, since we will be shooting hand held at night at high ISO and relatively low shutter speed (never over 1/250, and usuallyuch slower). Prefer dual slot, don't need more than 5 or 6fps (this ain't a sport, yet), wifi would be nice too.

Question 2.: am leaning full frame, but open to your suggestions, based on YOUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. New Nikon P1000 with zoom to 2400mm or 3000mm (125x) is nice, but can it do what I want on such a small sensor? Any reason DX is better than FX, other then weght/price?

Looking for those very few professional private investigators who are also accomplished photographers to weigh in here. Am getting ready to drive to B&H next month to cure my g.a.s. attack! Money is not a major consideration, though I am not wasteful. Would go D850, but don't see a need for that many MPs.

Photos don't need high res, just need to be recognizable for positive id in court. Many thanks to all of you in advance... I love UHH and have learned a lot in the past month or research, both here, on utube, and the various sites on the internet.
Mark
I am a private investigator with experience since ... (show quote)


I can't personally verify this, but a professional friend said he uses a camera with a max ISO of 64,000. His quote:
"You can shoot by the light of a match." Seems to me with light gathering capability like this, a lot of other
equipment concerns are secondary if not insignificant. >Alan

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