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Feb 25, 2018 07:51:49   #
jeweler53
 
“Why should I have to pay for a picture of my own child?”

Well ma'am you don't! Feel free to take as many pictures of you child as you like. The people who buy MY pictures apparently think they are WORTH $15. If you don't, please don't buy them. Thanks you, and good day.

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Feb 25, 2018 07:54:32   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Brent Rowlett wrote:
My whole take on the situation is that if your photography only commands $15, it isn't worth charging her for it. Give her the photo and move on.


Now that was a nasty response.

It was not professional, so I now know not to engage your services.

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Feb 25, 2018 08:00:01   #
armymsg
 
Peterff wrote:
Now that was a nasty response.

It was not professional, so I now know not to engage your services.


You got that right!

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Feb 25, 2018 08:14:17   #
pesfls Loc: Oregon, USA
 
Brent Rowlett wrote:
My whole take on the situation is that if your photography only commands $15, it isn't worth charging her for it. Give her the photo and move on.


Pretty rude.

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Feb 25, 2018 08:18:26   #
ron0987
 
People do take it for granted on the work that is put into a set up and shoot. You outlined it nicely in your presentation to the forum why not give them the same response and leave it up to them to decide. People will always ask for something for free and try and push it to get it. $15 is very very reasonable. Just my thoughts.

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Feb 25, 2018 08:26:11   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Make her as mad as possible and then take a picture of her and put it on the site hi res for free download.

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Feb 25, 2018 08:27:31   #
Tom G Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
Sarcasm would be my first answer too; however, a person as dense as this woman wouldn't get it anyway.

I suggest answering her question with your own question, "Why do you ask?"

She will also not get that one either, but it might end the conversation.

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Feb 25, 2018 08:27:56   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
pesfls wrote:
Pretty rude.


True, but the opinion was free and worth every penny of it.

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Feb 25, 2018 08:32:17   #
BebuLamar
 
Jaackil wrote:
“Why should I have to pay for a picture of my own child?”
I take pictures of my sons hockey games. I have been doing it for many years now and I post all of the pictures on my website. I take pictures of all of the players. The low resolution watermarked images are free to download so the boys can post them to social media. If someone wants a full resolution image without a watermark it’s $15 for the digital file. Every year I do a shoot with just the seniors where we get creative and do something special for their Senior poster which gets put up in the rink in senior night. This year I did a low key shot of each senior stopping and spraying snow. The shoot involved renting a sheet of ice for $200 for an hour and about 2 hours total set up and shooting time. Post processing was about 1/2 hour per image. I also took 4 additional poses of each senior. The seniors will get a 24x36 poster of the “stopping” shot as well as an 8x10 of each additional pose. Those are my gift to the seniors. The stopping shots came out very good. One mother asked me to email her the picture so she could have it printed for friends and relatives. When I told her she could download the full resolution image from my website. Her respnse was “Why should I have to pay for a picture of my own child?” My initial inclination is to repond with sarcasm. How ever I am curious how others would repond tactfully.
“Why should I have to pay for a picture of my own ... (show quote)


The answer is simple because you can't have the picture if you don't pay. Why do I have to pay for anything if I can have it for free??

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Feb 25, 2018 08:32:59   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
LWW wrote:
True, but the opinion was free and worth every penny of it.


Now that is an oxymoron. And the response in question had no positive value.

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Feb 25, 2018 08:56:18   #
FreddB Loc: PA - Delaware County
 
Rongnongno wrote:
I had a similar case with a MWR director in 1989. I gave him a free print with a large red stamp over it: DO NOT REPRODUCE.

He was furious, everyone else was laughing.


You were probably WAY too late with your advice 😈

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Feb 25, 2018 08:58:35   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
lamiaceae wrote:
ANSWER NASTY. The new non-thinking norm of the day in this age of vanity and narcissism. Therefore, "Why should I have to pay the doctor for delivering my own child"? So propose that rebuttal question and then tell her she can deliver it on her own (that will be fun) and not pay the doctor or midwife and take her own damn pictures of her kids for free.

Actually, your premise is not bad; if we could somehow educate people as to the facts of infant mortality over the twentieth century and propose a change of the expectations (pun not intended), maybe we could begin a dialogue as to the "cost of successful results" in other fields.

According to the CDC, of every 1000 live births in the US at the beginning of the twentieth century, 100 of these children died before the age of one year. By the end of the century, that rate had dropped to about 7 per 1000. Among the factors were better chemistry, better technology and more skilled personnel. None of these factors came free. Consider JUST these three factors and they might apply very closely to the success rate for photographic images; and that increase in the success rate of photos did not come cheap! Emotionally, the comparison is a stretch, but the very same type of effect in many factors of our lives parallel the progress in infant survival.

No mother is going to listen to this kind of argument; it strikes too close too home. Maybe some member can come up with a less ghoulish, but parallel comparison. We have some very wise members on this forum; some of you give it some serious thought. As technology and practitioner skill improve, this field and others will get harder.

In the early 1990's, I charged a company $100 for rebooting their computer (CONT-ALT-DEL). The manager was outraged. I told her she was being charged $5 for hitting the keys and $95 for knowing which keys to hit. Maybe the mother can understand that kind of argument regarding the photo of her precious little angel (and speaking of angels, that takes me full circle to my point about infant mortality).

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Feb 25, 2018 08:59:34   #
Jaackil Loc: Massachusetts
 
pesfls wrote:
Pretty rude.


It was rude but not entirely unfair. I don’t want to take this thread down a rat hole because this question is about how to repond to people who want our work for free but I do want to address it.
What a person charges may or may not have anything to do with the value of their work. There are a lot of things that go into what to charge. If we do a free shoot for a charity does that indicate how we value our work? I allow the free download of low res watermarked images because the audience downloading is mostly kids who want to post images of themselves on social media. These are kids I have known since they were mites and have coached most of them. I get enjoyment out of theeir enjoyment of my pictures. The going rate in my area for a full res no watermark sports image is $20-$25. My $15 is my family discount for my Hockey family. It’s what I choose to charge. It has nothing to do with how I value my work. However obviously the person who posed the comment is really of the same mindset as the woman asking the question. So my reply to him is why should I give my work away for free regardless of what the perceived value is? If I choose to to give it away that should be my choice she is not entitled to think I need to give it to her for free.

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Feb 25, 2018 09:01:43   #
BebuLamar
 
Peterff wrote:
Now that was a nasty response.

It was not professional, so I now know not to engage your services.


When I did photofinishing for 30 cents a print I was willing to make 10 prints in order to produce 1 that the customer like. I would not give the customer any of the 9 they didn't pay but wanted. So even if the I want 1c for the price she either want it and pay for it or doesn't want it.

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Feb 25, 2018 09:03:35   #
FreddB Loc: PA - Delaware County
 
Brent Rowlett wrote:
My whole take on the situation is that if your photography only commands $15, it isn't worth charging her for it. Give her the photo and move on.


That's not just rude, but total BS.
Give it to her is exactly what she was expecting from the git-go.

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