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Feb 22, 2018 10:34:31   #
tommystrat Loc: Bigfork, Montana
 
Person B who reads the manual...

Play on words - "why dangle" vs. "wide angle"

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Feb 22, 2018 10:50:21   #
317tman Loc: Indianapolis, In
 
From personal experience person B. I ‘m technical and shooting for 45 years, but daughter has the eye and has outdone me from her start.

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Feb 22, 2018 10:56:45   #
Robert Bailey Loc: Canada
 
Thanks, "Tommystrat". I was being too literal I guess to notice the word play.
Do you play a "strat" guitar?

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Feb 22, 2018 11:21:51   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
As for #1, there was a youtube video that addressed this very topic. It's worth searching. The difference was incredible.
As for #2, I've no idea about what you're asking. dangle?
--Bob
bellgamin wrote:
QUESTION #1--- Who would do better in their first 6 months with a top-of-the-line dslr, I wonder...

Person "A", who has great technical photography skills but only so-so artistic gifts?
OR.........
Person "B", who has great artistic gifts but limited photography skills?
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QUESTION#2--- Why dangle?
ANSWER: Why not? It can be a useful lens at times.

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Feb 22, 2018 12:00:58   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
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Feb 22, 2018 12:16:34   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
"B"

bellgamin wrote:
QUESTION #1--- Who would do better in their first 6 months with a top-of-the-line dslr, I wonder...

Person "A", who has great technical photography skills but only so-so artistic gifts?
OR.........
Person "B", who has great artistic gifts but limited photography skills?
~~~~~
QUESTION#2--- Why dangle?
ANSWER: Why not? It can be a useful lens at times.

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Feb 22, 2018 12:32:36   #
Tex-s
 
Because some folks have mentioned coaching, and because I coach as a profession, I'll post the optimistic answer. Over only six months, between photographer A and B, the one that works to improve their 'deficits' the most will end up with the better results. A technically proficient person can learn a bit about composition and impact, and the artistic can learn the technical. Still, I'd say the photographer with the natural eye for composition has a higher potential in the long run, as composition always trumps proper exposure.

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Feb 22, 2018 12:47:14   #
SAVH Loc: La Jolla, CA
 
I have been taking pictures for over 65 years and am reasonably good technically (though not nearly on a par with many of the Hoggers who comment so helpfully on the real details of hows and whys). My son, who followed my interest in photography, has very little technical detail knowledge about photography but, unfortunately for me, has a much better "eye." He can inherently know when to get low angle shots or many other creative shots what I somehow miss. Perhaps my years of being a rather staid, conservative, nuclear submarine officer and student of Admiral Rickover's command to do the "technically correct thing," has left me behind in the creative world. I still take some rather nice shots but my son shows a much better flair for the interesting and striking picture. So I would have to go with B for question #1. He could, if he took the time, figure out all the technical stuff that might help him but I'm not sure that I can make significant improvement in my "eye" beyond just trying harder. I need to try to work farther "outside the box" I think.

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Feb 22, 2018 13:39:17   #
jacklewis014
 
Since I already shared my story and my self professed lack of the creative gene, how does someone "learn" to be creative?
How does a photographer learn to see things that they normally miss? Serious question - is there a method to improve my "eye" for taking pictures? Because I really want to develop that capability.

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Feb 22, 2018 13:45:01   #
Jim Bob
 
bellgamin wrote:
QUESTION #1--- Who would do better in their first 6 months with a top-of-the-line dslr, I wonder...

Person "A", who has great technical photography skills but only so-so artistic gifts?
OR.........
Person "B", who has great artistic gifts but limited photography skills?
~~~~~
QUESTION#2--- Why dangle?
ANSWER: Why not? It can be a useful lens at times.


Don't know and don't care. Who judges better?

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Feb 22, 2018 13:45:41   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
It will be the one who tries to make up for the part they lack. Both skill and art can be nurtured and developed. They lie in wait in each of us The one that makes the effort will do better.

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Feb 22, 2018 13:46:23   #
Noctilucent
 
Robert Bailey wrote:
Please excuse my ignorance, but what does "dangle" mean in a photographic context?


Methinks "Why Dangle" is a pun on wide-angle, a type of lens. The context is banter among adepts. Pretty funny before morning coffee…

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Feb 22, 2018 13:48:35   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
jacklewis014 wrote:
Since I already shared my story and my self professed lack of the creative gene, how does someone "learn" to be creative?
How does a photographer learn to see things that they normally miss? Serious question - is there a method to improve my "eye" for taking pictures? Because I really want to develop that capability.


Yes. Read "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" by Betty Edwards and "The Artist's Way" by Julia Cameron.

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Feb 22, 2018 13:52:21   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Noctilucent, thank you, immensely. It took two large cups of coffee, having breakfast and lunch, along with your explanation to get that. Even then, I had to read through your post twice and give serious thought to what you wrote. Sometimes I amaze myself with slowness. Thanks again.
--Bob
Noctilucent wrote:
Methinks "Why Dangle" is a pun on wide-angle, a type of lens. The context is banter among adepts. Pretty funny before morning coffee…

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Feb 22, 2018 13:54:08   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Noctilucent wrote:
Methinks "Why Dangle" is a pun on wide-angle, a type of lens. The context is banter among adepts. Pretty funny before morning coffee…


OH! I guess I checked my fly for no reason then!

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