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Feb 21, 2018 20:33:31   #
bellgamin Loc: Ewa Beach, Hawaii
 
QUESTION #1--- Who would do better in their first 6 months with a top-of-the-line dslr, I wonder...

Person "A", who has great technical photography skills but only so-so artistic gifts?
OR.........
Person "B", who has great artistic gifts but limited photography skills?
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QUESTION#2--- Why dangle?
ANSWER: Why not? It can be a useful lens at times.

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Feb 21, 2018 20:38:32   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
As a fellow photographer one said 'if you havn't got the eye it dosn't really matter how good your gear is".

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Feb 21, 2018 21:07:47   #
ricardo7 Loc: Washington, DC - Santiago, Chile
 
Person A will make properly exposed, yawningly banal pictures and feel compelled to post them all.

Person B has the potential to make interesting pictures. The auto features of digital cameras obviate
any great need for many of the technical options available.

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Feb 21, 2018 21:49:15   #
bellgamin Loc: Ewa Beach, Hawaii
 
Hmmm. I wonder why no one has tackled question#2. 😉

Also I wonder if no one will eventually argue on behalf of Person "A".

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Feb 22, 2018 00:25:32   #
Joe Blow
 
bellgamin wrote:
QUESTION #1--- Who would do better in their first 6 months with a top-of-the-line dslr, I wonder...

Person "A", who has great technical photography skills but only so-so artistic gifts?
OR.........
Person "B", who has great artistic gifts but limited photography skills?
~~~~~
QUESTION#2--- Why dangle?
ANSWER: Why not? It can be a useful lens at times.


As a softball coach, I've often asked parents of the kids trying to make the team; "Two runners with identical times. One has great form and the other has terrible form. There is only room for one more on the team, who should I pick?" The parent that thinks their kid is great will pick the first runner. The parent that recognizes their kid will benefit from coaching will pick the second. You can teach the proper way to do something but you can't teach ability.

Parents that think their kids don't need any improvement too often become the scourge of sports teams.

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Feb 22, 2018 01:39:54   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
Person B because it ain't that difficult to learn how to use a good DSLR.
Question 2, you already supplied an answer.

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Feb 22, 2018 02:05:02   #
bellgamin Loc: Ewa Beach, Hawaii
 
Joe Blow wrote:
... ...Parents that think their kids don't need any improvement too often become the scourge of sports teams.
I was pitching coach for Little League Seniors (13-15) for 3 years & was a Hi School pitching coach for 4 years. Baseball coaching was the most fun I ever had while fully clothed.

Baseball was not a very popular HS sport in my school's district... the popular sports were paddling, surfing, & football. Plus the football coach wanted his kids running track in the off season. Plus if he saw us using one of his quarterbacks to pitch, he would grumble to the AD & the AD always sided with football. grrr

In those 7 years of coaching, we saw some kids who were only so-so in LL majors but who blossomed into really good players in LL seniors. I wonder if that sort of thing might happen in artsy areas such as painting, sculpting, music, ballet, & photography.

Anyhow, during all that time when I was coaching, I was blessed with really great parents BUT I have seen parents of the type mentioned in your comment. Fortunately, none of them was parent of one of my team's kids.

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Feb 22, 2018 06:13:19   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
Q1 B Most of what matters in a photograph is composition
Q2 Wideangle it's a useful lens

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Feb 22, 2018 08:17:28   #
jacklewis014
 
As a photographer that is an IT professional, I am Person A. I have all the technical skills both with the camera and post processing. For years I have studied other's photos and asked myself why I like that picture. I have tried to acquire the artistic skills. Not an easy thing to do. I predominately shoot sports where the artistic eye is not as critical. I have observed my 13 yr old granddaughter take her new camera (gift from me at Christmas) and capture wonderful images - using the programmed settings most of the time. She and I can look at the same thing and she comes away with pictures that I would never think to take. Person B has a God-given gift that I believe Person A will never be able to learn/acquire.

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Feb 22, 2018 08:31:10   #
LarryFitz Loc: Beacon NY
 
I am also a person A. Started using DOS 2.0. At Kodak worked with their early Digital Cameras Pro and point an shoot. I assisted photographers to learn how to use digital photography in including Photoshop 2.x. The photographers I worked with often share information with me about what was a good image and what they looked for in a photo. I even learn how to develop film. I paid attention, now that I am retired I am putting that knowledge into practice, but the technical side will always be my strongest side as I continue to learn more on both sides.

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Feb 22, 2018 09:01:59   #
mleuck
 
Neither. The person using the camera for their needs without regard of others and their opinion.

That individual would be truly happy!

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Feb 22, 2018 09:14:45   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
"As a fellow photographer one said 'if you havn't got the eye it dosn't really matter how good your gear is".

In complete agreement.

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Feb 22, 2018 09:59:22   #
Robert Bailey Loc: Canada
 
Please excuse my ignorance, but what does "dangle" mean in a photographic context?

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Feb 22, 2018 10:21:02   #
tomad Loc: North Carolina
 
Person A can still be good at "documentary" photography. Most wildlife shots fall into this category, i.e., a bird in flight with nothing in the background. A person who learns technically how to use their equipment can capture this shot but is it artistic? Many landscapes and cityscapes fall into this category. Person A can also be good at technical creative photography like night shots of streaming lights or blurred shots of moving subjects.

I guess what I'm saying is that not all photography is art or artistic. Some photos are just darned good captures of real world scenes.

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Feb 22, 2018 10:23:11   #
jacklewis014
 
tomad wrote:
Person A can still be good at "documentary" photography. Most wildlife shots fall into this category, i.e., a bird in flight with nothing in the background. A person who learns technically how to use their equipment can capture this shot but is it artistic? Many landscapes and cityscapes fall into this category. Person A can also be good at technical creative photography like night shots of streaming lights or blurred shots of moving subjects.

I guess what I'm saying is that not all photography is art or artistic. Some photos are just darned good captures of real world scenes.
Person A can still be good at "documentary&qu... (show quote)


Agreed - many of the sports pictures I take fall into that category as well

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