Why do so many of you save as JPEG instead of TIFF? (Page 3): A lot of misinformation in you op. I have been published in magazines printed on just about every thing offered and not...

duane klipping Loc: Bristow iowa

A lot of misinformation in you op. I have been published in magazines printed on just about every thing offered and not once has anyone ever asked for a tiff file. BTW they all printed fine.

As far as degrading every time it is just opened. Really? Who told you this?

jcboy3

pecohen wrote:

It's a minor quibble, but they degrade every time you save them. If you edit but don't save you lose nothing. On the other hand if you just open and then save the identical image you do degrade the image.

Not necessarily.

Skiextreme2 Loc: Northwest MA

Architect1776 wrote:

Because I keep my originals in RAW.

I always keep raw files too. My final image is Tiff.

Rathyatra Loc: Southport, United Kingdom

Linda From Maine wrote:

A fallacy: i JPEG degrades every time it is opene... (show quote)

ELNikkor

I don't know what a TIFF is, and the jpegs I shot in 2006 look the same as if I took them yesterday, though they've been opened and transferred between media 50x +. 1mb files, shot with a Pentax WP, they blow up to 11x, sharp with no grain.

donrosshill Loc: Delaware & Florida

I understand your reasons for asking, however, all cameras made the decision for us to either shoot in RAW or JPEG.
Only after you have downloaded your images does the opportunity come to save in another format. I shoot in RAW and JPRG.
When I know if I am going to make a large print I save in TIFF as a copy.
Works for me.
Don

Phil Oneacre

Jpegs now days have very many pixels but back in 2000 (18 years ago) they were very small (a dozen on a 1.4 megabyte diskette) I edited my jpegs and I could see the degrade. I learned quickly and had a master photo that I never edited. Today I shoot raw and I use lightroom and when I need to send a copy it is a jpeg - almost nobody asks for a tiff. However when I need to edit in photoshop (usually a pan or hdr) I save as tiff or dng.

I also print out of lightroom using the Canon print utility for output on my Inagegraf PRO-1000.

WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio

Skiextreme2 wrote:

Why do so many of you save as JPEG instead of TIFF? JPEG degrades every time it is opened and TIFF does not (unless you have edited more).

I've also seen many mention that they may have to send a JPEG to a client because that is what they want, yet any printer I've done business with prefers taking TIFF files.

Why would you go through all the effort of using and editing raw images and save them as JPEGs?

Because I want to.

WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio

Linda From Maine wrote:

A fallacy: i JPEG degrades every time it is opene... (show quote)

pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY

Skiextreme2 wrote:

Why do so many of you save as JPEG instead of TIFF? JPEG degrades every time it is opened and TIFF does not (unless you have edited more).

I've also seen many mention that they may have to send a JPEG to a client because that is what they want, yet any printer I've done business with prefers taking TIFF files.

Why would you go through all the effort of using and editing raw images and save them as JPEGs?

It probably has already been said but if you are starting with Raw you create a jpg or tiff as an output file ONE TIME. You don't edit the jpg. If you decide after creating the output you don't like or want to change what you did, you go back to raw file and create another or replace it. As for save as jpg vs tiff vs whatever, it depends on what you plan to do with the file. In the case of posting for say facebook why Tiff, it's a very big file and FB is going to compress the hell out it anyway.

pecohen Loc: Central Maine

jcboy3 wrote:

Not necessarily.

Yes, I suppose it depends on what you mean by "open" and what you mean by "save". I suppose it even depends on what you mean by "not".

As for "open" I mean your software reads in the JPEG file and converts that to a pixel-mapped representation.

By "save" I mean overwriting the original image with a JPEG file that is derived from the pixel-mapped representation. There is always some loss of integrity in doing this conversion.

As for "not" I would readily admit that the loss in that save operation will not be great and you likely would not detect it just by looking at the image. Moreover, strange things do happen at times and there probably is a very remote possibility that the save operation would write out exactly the same data that it read in. I'd guess that is much less than one in a billion chance, however.

Tommy II Loc: Northern Illinois

Skiextreme2 wrote:

Why do so many of you save as JPEG instead of TIFF? JPEG degrades every time it is opened and TIFF does not (unless you have edited more).

I've also seen many mention that they may have to send a JPEG to a client because that is what they want, yet any printer I've done business with prefers taking TIFF files.

Why would you go through all the effort of using and editing raw images and save them as JPEGs?

Saving TIFF is like driving a semi down to the store to buy groceries.

Patw28 Loc: PORT JERVIS, NY

Limited to family album stuff, instant sharing, no longer an interest inPP.
iPhone now replacing DSL and even compacts. Selling off all photo gear except for a bridge FX1000 which is seeing less and less daylight day by day.
Sad day for me with photography being my main activity since 1947. Yes, that's 70 years. Sigh. . . .

WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio

Patw28 wrote:

Limited to family album stuff, instant sharing, no longer an interest inPP.
iPhone now replacing DSL and even compacts. Selling off all photo gear except for a bridge FX1000 which is seeing less and less daylight day by day.
Sad day for me with photography being my main activity since 1947. Yes, that's 70 years. Sigh. . . .

Smart man 👌✊

WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio

Tommy II wrote:

Saving TIFF is like driving a semi down to the store to buy groceries.

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