dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Gracias amigo. I feel compelled to point out you are just like Barack, Bill and Hillary with more than a smattering of Pelosi thrown in. Your resemblance to all of the above is uncanny.

Dennis

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

One constant I find amusing is the hypocrisy of you on the Left. No matter what Bill Clinton did regarding sex, no matter what Hillary did as far as unethical behavior, lying, putting women down after her husband sexually abused them up to and including rape, no matter the lies that Obama passed out, they are all forgotten as far as you on the Left are concerned. We get the same old, that was then so what they did is forgotten, But what about Trump.

What about Trump? When I was in Vietnam many Marines came back from R&R claiming they were so good sexually that some of the prostitutes there paid THEM and gave them expensive gifts. There were claims of meeting women, not prostitutes on a street and the women falling head over heels over them while they escorted the woman into an alley and fondled them. Trump has made all sorts of claims. For everything else you on the Left claim he is lying. But for this he simply must be telling the t***h. Hmmmmm. Nice to pick and choose, huh? Yes, many women made claims that Trump groped them. How odd they are not to be found now. Odder still is that one of them worked for the Clinton campaign. Talk about fortunate for Hillary, huh? Even odder yet is that ALL of these claims were any least 15 years earlier. Apparently they were not bothered until Trump ran for President. The very same thing happened in the case of Roy Moore. How fortunate for the Left that these women just happened to come forward at the exact appropriate time to screw up Moore's campaign. Yes there is a video of Trump fondling some woman. I have never heard of her complaining. I have fondled women myself, all with their consent and hopefully they enjoyed it as I did. I am sure you will say the same thing.

As I had said, even if these two men did abuse their wives, is there proof they did anything abusive recently? How long will they be punished? Are they never to be employed again? Is it not possible they have had counseling and are no longer a threat to their wives or girlfriends? You say one wife filed a restraining order in 2010. That was 8 years ago. What about now?

From what you are saying it would seem that Hillary should never have run for President due to her quite actively putting down the women that Bill mistreated. She actually called them trailer trash as I recall while standing up for her husband. This is the very same Hillary who the Left tells us is the champion of women and children. Funny, I have always thought the exact opposite, not because she is from the Left but from her actions. She has done nothing for women or children. Yet she is the champion for all of you.

The President should be a role model you say. Allow me to stretch that out to potential President nominees; does that include the likes of every Kennedy who has ever run for office? You know, John, Bobby and Teddy? Does that include the Clintons? Are you really telling us that from here on out every P**********l nominee from the Left will have no baggage relating to sexual abuse?

The Left supposedly helps people and wants they to succeed. Even prison inmates who are released are supposed to have done their time and should be allowed to v**e, get on with their lives and be successful. But in this case it seems that even if these two men have not abused anybody for years they are still to be punished. Tell me, are you out to punish them or is it just another in your parade to hit Trump with every nit pick thing you can?

Dennis

MikeMck Loc: Southern Maryland on the Bay

I don't agree with a thing you say, but I do thank you for your service.

KGOldWolf

As I said previously, Trump supporters continue to attempt to justify Trump’s behavior by saying the preceding administrations were worse (your opinion). The huge error with that thinking is that NO NONE is absolving the past.

But that is the past and it cannot be changed but the present and the future can still be changed and made better not worse as it is heading.

Clinton was impeached, how is that not criticizing his behavior?

Geeze Dennis, look at today; don’t you want better the country with improved behavior and more well thought out decisions?

If the past was bad, why continue it?

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Thank you much for your thanks. I do appreciate it.

I doubt I would agree with anything you say as well so that about cancels us out.

Dennis

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

I am not for continuing the past nor have I or anybody here that I am aware of condoned some of the things Trump has said and done. I have personally spoken out about Trump’s bad points such as his bragging, demeaning language, talking about employees and so on. But on the other hand you on the Left fail to recognize anything good he has done. He has done more in a year to build up the economy than Obama has done. He has done more to rid the world of ISIS than Obama did. But all I hear from you on the Left is how corrupt he is, how he is going to rob America blind, then let’s not forget his hair and Melania’s shoes.

But you all simply go overboard in your condemnation of Trump and it is unwarranted. I don’t know about you personally but when I see the Congressional Democrats still wanting him impeached for everything he does, nothing of which is impeachable it gets a bit stupid on the part of the Left.

Dennis

bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.

we have declared some crimes as unforgivable or untreatable. when convicted we'd like them to go away and die. we pretty much demand that they wear a SC label on their forehead. now it's if you are accused we lower the boom on you. no day in court.

KGOldWolf

Stereotyping rarely works and you have grossly stereotyped me and others here who see the dangers the Trump administration presents to our future.

Several times, and at least one I posted in direct response to you, highlighted changes in direction I like even if his approach is at times dangerously naive.

I’m glad he changed the appeasement approach to NK (although he does so in a needlessly belligerent manner). Wall St liked his pro-business plans and reacted positively (though now they are reacting to concerns about inflation and his Yellen appointed replacement has done and said nothing to assuage Wall St. fears). He did a good job going after ISIS and sending a strong message to Syria in doing so.

These are things I AND others have said here.

However Trump is NOT responsible for the turnaround in the economy. That is a process that takes years to adjust course and frankly a president can only effect a fast change by really screwing up. The vast majority of impact on the economy is effected by Congressional laws which most often take years for businesses to exploit or reign in. If you believe otherwise you simply don’t understand economic forces.

Your post relies on gross oversimplifications. It is likely your support of Trump is due to your anger at status quo and a lack of understanding what forces caused it. And therefore you are unable to foresee the danger this president presents now and to America’s future.

You seem like an honest and sincere guy. I’ve not taken personal offense by your post but I feel it is necessary to be the “loyal opposition” and define the reasons I so adamentally disagree with your beliefs.

Ken

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

Really Dennis, you should be ashamed of your self. How hard was that really?

Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast

You can say that as often as you want, it still doesn't make it true. The reality is that the current economic boom is ALL DUE to Trump's systematic elimination of the needless regulations imposed by the 0bama regime. Add to that the great tax reform law and you can see the results. It's very simple; just get government out of the way of American businesses and let them do what they do best.

Even if 0bama had been in office for 12 years, economic growth would only have started in year 13.

And you still wasted your v**e.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Ken I can't tell you the number of times I have been stereotyped by those here from the Left. You name it, DaveO, Donna, thom, Dirt and many others. You have no idea how many times I have been called names just because I am a Conservative. So please join the club. It has many members.

Yes, I hear all the time how this is still Obama's economy but of course I have seen nobody on the Left take credit for the stock market going down this past week. Apparently according to the Left it is Obama's economy when we are doing well but Trump's economy when we are doing bad. Nice if you can do that I guess but I can't in all honesty accept that reasoning.

Many companies have dedicated their money to come to America, hire employees, build factories and so on. Many other companies in America have said they will, thanks to the TRUMP tax cuts, bring their off shore money back to America, hire hundreds of thousands of employees, build factories and so on. Thankfully many companies are openly saying they are giving their employees bonus checks DUE TO PRESIDENT TRUMP. Why on earth didn't Obama try to bring businesses back to America or to America PERIOD that were not already here? Admit it, Obama never did anything for the American worker. He spent his time trying to build up businesses in other countries. It is Donald Trump who has taken charge, with business experience, of making American workers prosperous again. Because of that the stock market is up and though nobody on the Left will admit it, it had nothing whatsoever to do with Obama. Unemployment is up for all Americans including black and Hispanic. Yes I know you will give Obama credit for that but how odd that it is a year after Obama left office. It is also not just a small percentage but a huge percentage of people working again.

Ken you on the Left stereotype all of us that v**ed for Trump as angry confused people who never looked at the candidates or did our homework to really take a look at the candidates. I have to totally disagree with that and I think most people who v**ed for Trump would agree. We simply were tired of the horses**t crap in Washington with politicians on both sides of the aisle. I have feelings and my own hopes for America. None of the candidates promises came even close to what I want in America except for Donald Trump. I freely admit now and I have numerous times in the past that I do not like Trump's personality traits. He repeats himself constantly, he is still a braggadocio and a show boater and he openly speaks of things that should remain private. But I can get over that provided he does his best to make America the country it used to be. Now right here I know those on the Left will proclaim: Sure we will have r****m like we used to, poor wages like we used to, terrible education for minorities like we used to and so on. But sadly for those people, that is not what I mean at all. You on the Left seem to want a One World Government, the usual utopia for the Left where everything is rosy, everyone is working or at least getting money for something, everyone gets to go to college, blah blah blah. But in that world it would take people working for those things. Take a look around. We have millions of people who have never worked a day in their life and have no plan to ever work as long as the government takes care of them. We have good ole boy Democrats who want to give free things to i*****l a***ns such as free medical plans and free college. But they forget we have American citizens who will never get those things and might want them too. I do not want any of those things because I never grew up with those things. My brothers and I, along with millions of others have worked for everything we got in life. We served in the military, went to school on our own never having borrowed money in student loans. But you on the Left want to simply give things away but paid for with my money. Not for me, not today and not ever. That is why I and millions of others v**ed for Trump. Of course Hillary looking medically unfit for office, her lack of ethics, her thievery and lying had something to do with not v****g for her as well. Then we find out she c***ted Bernie Sanders out of his rightful place in the e******n and c***ted even you Democrats out of money through the DNC. Yet most of you would still v**e for her today. Now there is a quality person for you, right there in Hillary Clinton. Rah rah!!!

If I left anything out please let me know,

Dennis

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

OMG it was just awful. But I am OK.

Dennis

Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast

Well, dennis2146 did a good job at explaining his reasoning, I'll just add a few more thoughts.

When Trump announced his candidacy, I was nonplussed at first. The Republican field of contenders was wide and deep and at first I didn't give him much thought. Until he started talking about his vision of America and what he was proposing.

Of course, it immediately offended the bien-pensants on the left and the squishy Republicans, so that made me pay attention even more closely. Yep, Trump is not a role model in many things, but then again, we were not electing or looking for a role model. After 8 years of the horrid 0bama regime, we needed to get some adults back in charge and I could clearly see early on that Trump had one quality that I believed was critical to winning against Crooked Hillary.

Trump fights. The Dems fight dirty and Trump can get as dirty as they do and that is what was needed. None of the other candidates would have won against Crooked Hillary; they would all have crumbled. Bush didn't fight back when the left and its media went after him and as a result we got the meltdown; McCain the squishy Republican crumbled easily and 0bama was elected. When Romney ran against 0bama, he crumbled and lost the e******n that he should have won after 4 horrid years of the 0bama regime. By crumbling he condemned America to another 4 years of lackluster economic activity and more pain and suffering as the health care system was being destroyed.

I could see that Trump would fight where none of the other Republicans would; they would just choose to knuckle under.

Not Trump.

He won the primary against 16 of the most powerful Republicans and he was already taking on Crooked Hillary even before he clinched the nomination because he knew she would be his opponent. Crooked Hillary fixed the primaries to make sure she won and now we find out that she tried to fix the national e******ns by providing garbage info to the FBI and the DOJ so they could spy on Trump. I do remember when Trump announced that he was being spied on during the campaign and everyone laughed. Hmm, he was right.

The Deep State conspired with Russia no less and the Hillary campaign to keep Trump from winning the e******n, but he still won! If he had not won, we would never have found out all the shenanigans and collusion between the FBI/DOJ, Hillary, DNC and Russia.

That's what fighting does. I even think that Trump in injecting a spine in the elected Republicans and they actually stood up to the dems/media and passed Tax Reform. If it had not been for Trump, that would have failed; too many squishy Republicans.

0bama himself said it, "you bring a knife, we bring a gun."

In this case, the Dems brought the FBI/DOJ, Hillary and the Russians; they were outgunned because we brought a Trump.

I've been following the numerous departures from the FBI; they know the jig is up and they are leaving as quickly as possible.

Trump fights.

KGOldWolf

Pegasus, you are really limited so it's not worth a lot of time for me to respond. I've already wasted too much time responding to you so I think this shall be the last.... feel free to have the last word.

I never credited Obama with saving the economy - duh! IF you bothered to read my post you would see I said it is Congress that effects the economy unless a president does something really stupid (like start a needless war).

You clearly don't understand the difference between the economy and a Wall Street bull session. Here's a hint, the former is a long term the latter can react on a moment's notice. Trump helped sustain a bull market but he has not had any effect on the economy.... it's far too soon and it would only be through efforts of his appointed Federal Reserve Chairman and his signing of laws passed by Congress. Can you get that difference?

As for the rest of your assertions, both in this thread and in others, you are too limited to converse with any further. For you Pegasus, the real problem with being limited as you are, is that you cannot perceive the greater concept and so you never can even see that you are limited. It's like being too stupid to ever conceptualize being smart. I apologize in advance for my bluntness but nuance is lost on you.

idaholover Loc: Nampa ID

You have a media that idolized a c****e cunt that oversees genocide.