MikeMck Loc: Southern Maryland on the Bay

Lets hear your arguments trump supporters

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

My best arguments are:

Hillary did nothing to a man who sexually abused a woman in her employ and then t***sferred the woman. The man remained in her employ. Hillary is world famous for many years for being against female victims of abuse while supporting Billy Bob, her husband.

What other information is there regarding the two men who are gone from the White House employ? Was there a police report? Is this based only on the statements of the wives involved? How long ago did it happen? Did the men receive counseling and hopefully those problems are resolved?

Yes there are men who physically abuse their wives. Did anyone know, or care, there are women who abuse their men folk too.

Because someone is an abuser does that mean they are unfit for any type of employment? Should these two men, who are no longer employed at the White House, never be allowed to work again? America and the world is filled with people who have similar problems. I guarantee there are members right here in The Attic, who are on either side of the political aisle, who are abusers. If ever found out should they be thrown out of the forum? For that matter I would even go so far as to say statistically The Attic has a couple of child molesters as well.

My point is not to say these men should not be held in contempt by others but before everyone tuns to get a rope maybe there is more to the story that the Left doesn’t know. I do not condone what they did. After all Tim Geithner was in Obama’s cabinet and he was guilt of tax evasion. I don’t recall even one Democrat putting him down or even demanding he resign. Eric Holder lied to Congress but it was just another day at the Obama White House.

Dennis

jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ

boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander

Exactly what woman was Trump convicted of abusing?

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

I wonder where this i***t woman came up with the thought that abusers lie? Where is her documentation? I have personally known more than a few murderers, armed robbers and other criminal types. While many did lie there were a few who, in my opinion, did not lie. Being guilty of one thing does not necessarily extend to other personality traits.

According to what the woman says Bill Clinton would fit well with her description as would most of the Kennedys. Those darn political memes, huh? Actually, now that I think about it, Hillary would fit the mould perfectly too.

Dennis

KGOldWolf

I understand your intent but I think it is off point. Trump’s own words damn him; the prior actions (or inactions) of others are not applicable. Trump boasted of grabbing women (strangers) by their g*****ls simply because he could as a celebrity. He has been accused of sexual harassment by 20 women (last count) all prior to the #MeToo movement.

One of Porter’s wives took out a restraining order in 2010... pretty strong documentation of a pre-existing problem with Porter.

One of the most important responsibilities of the president is to be a role model. In context of both his words and actions, Trump is not providing effective moral leadership... that is, in my opinion.

usnpilot Loc: Ft Myers Fl

Were you as vocal when Clinton was getting blow jobs in the Oval Office or did you consider that being a great role model? Or how about JFK and LBJ and their philandering? Did they get a pass because they were Democrats?

KGOldWolf

No. Were you?

usnpilot Loc: Ft Myers Fl

Damn right I was.

KGOldWolf

Then why are you giving Trump and some members of his administration a pass?

usnpilot Loc: Ft Myers Fl

I don’t give him a pass for what he did, but at the same time IMHO he is doing a better job as President than we have seen during the past 8 years.
Now, why aren’t you giving him a pass since you tolerated bad behavior in past Democrat Presidents. Isn’t that being a tad hypocritical?

KGOldWolf

Huh?

This topic is about presidents who abuse women...

Stay on point if you can but since you asked, Trump is being assailed precisely because he is failing miserably keeping the vast number of promises he made in his campaign.

I see no hypocrisy in my position and question your ability to be coherent.

But enough of this, your blind bias is well documented in the Attic. We will never agree and you can never admit the faults of the present president without deflecting back to history as a justification for the present. It appears you do not understand that the past is unchangeable while the present and future can be changed with the admission Trump is an incapable leader and THOSE are the words of his own party.

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Congratulations Dennis, you’re just like Trump!
Typical TURD!!!
SS

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Congrats, wrong answer, we got us another baby Trump here!!! I’ll assume you’re a wife beater, child molester ?!?!
SS

usnpilot Loc: Ft Myers Fl

No, unlike you, I don’t advocate violence, saw too much of it in Vietnam. If memory serves me you wanted to beat the crap out of any Conservative who dared to come to speak at Berkely. You are a hypocritical ass.