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Jan 20, 2018 14:13:36   #
Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast
 
thom w wrote:
It's reported that 87% of Americans support DACA. How's it feel to be part of the 13%?


I think that 87% of Americans do not want to deport the 800,000 or so "dreamers." No issue with that.

I seriously doubt that 87% of Americans would be ok with the other demands that were presented to president Trump.

I love the way the libs happily conflate immigrants and i*****l i*******ts, "dreamers" with unfettered mass influx from sh*thole countries, chain immigration and open borders.

I would guess that if they had presented president Trump with amnesty for the dreamers, funding for the wall and no chain immigration, all would have been fine. However, the libs need mass influx of third world denizens to replenish their v****g stock as Democrats tend to abort themselves, whenever they figure out how to reproduce in the first place.

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Jan 20, 2018 14:16:02   #
drainbamage
 
Pegasus wrote:
I think that 87% of Americans do not want to deport the 800,000 or so "dreamers." No issue with that.

I seriously doubt that 87% of Americans would be ok with the other demands that were presented to president Trump.

I love the way the libs happily conflate immigrants and i*****l i*******ts, "dreamers" with unfettered mass influx from sh*thole countries, chain immigration and open borders.

I would guess that if they had presented president Trump with amnesty for the dreamers, funding for the wall and no chain immigration, all would have been fine. However, the libs need mass influx of third world denizens to replenish their v****g stock as Democrats tend to abort themselves, whenever they figure out how to reproduce in the first place.
I think that 87% of Americans do not want to depor... (show quote)


It's how Obama got re-elected...

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Jan 20, 2018 14:31:33   #
drainbamage
 
Pegasus wrote:
I think that 87% of Americans do not want to deport the 800,000 or so "dreamers." No issue with that.

I seriously doubt that 87% of Americans would be ok with the other demands that were presented to president Trump.

I love the way the libs happily conflate immigrants and i*****l i*******ts, "dreamers" with unfettered mass influx from sh*thole countries, chain immigration and open borders.

I would guess that if they had presented president Trump with amnesty for the dreamers, funding for the wall and no chain immigration, all would have been fine. However, the libs need mass influx of third world denizens to replenish their v****g stock as Democrats tend to abort themselves, whenever they figure out how to reproduce in the first place.
I think that 87% of Americans do not want to depor... (show quote)


I agree about the 800,000. That's a small number in the grand scheme of things. It's the chain migrators and wide open borders that will t***slate into the astronomical numbers of i******s that will flow into the US with a steady stream, unchecked, with no regard for the laws of immigration. To become a naturalized US citizen, according to i*********n l*ws, one has to be 18 or older or be accompanied by a parent if younger, be able to read, write and speak English, undergo a very thorough medical examination (which includes medical history, physical examination, chest X-ray and blood tests for syphilis. The physical examination will include at a minimum: examination of the eyes, ears, nose and throat, extremities, heart, lungs, abdomen, lymph nodes, skin and external g*****lia and several v*****es which costs approx. $500), along with other less stringent requirements.

This is what is lacking in every single i*****l a***n that crosses into our country.

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Jan 20, 2018 14:40:25   #
MikeMck Loc: Southern Maryland on the Bay
 
drainbamage wrote:
Obama created DACA out of thin air and enacted a law himself, which is illegal. Trump rescinded that law and passed it back to Congress, which Obama should have done in 2012. Congress did this, Trump had nothing to do with the v**e in Congress. The Senate k**led the bill before it even got to Trump's desk. How can you possibly blame Trump here?

It is both Obama and Congress's doing - NOT Trump.


I knew someone would blame someone other than trump. I thought it would be Hilliary, but I was wrong, of course its Obama, he has been gone for over a year, so it must be him, it can't possible be the piece of trash that is not running things now. Sad!! Take responsibility!!

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Jan 20, 2018 14:46:47   #
drainbamage
 
Banker0715 wrote:
I knew someone would blame someone other than trump. I thought it would be Hilliary, but I was wrong, of course its Obama, he has been gone for over a year, so it must be him, it can't possible be the piece of trash that is not running things now. Sad!! Take responsibility!!


The Democrats wanted to have all or nothing. Trump wanted the wall...or no chain migration...or no lottery migration. He got nothing. The Democrats wanted Amnesty, but screwed that up by wanting it all, with no compromise. How can you say this was Trump's doing? Do you GET that DACA was created by Obama in 2012, and not Trump? The v**e was 50 - 49. Trump did not v**e - he is the President, he doesn't v**e in Congress. He signs bills that Congress passes (or vetoes them).

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Jan 20, 2018 14:50:13   #
MikeMck Loc: Southern Maryland on the Bay
 
drainbamage wrote:
The Democrats wanted to have all or nothing. Trump wanted the wall...or no chain migration...or no lottery migration. He got nothing. The Democrats wanted Amnesty, but screwed that up by wanting it all, with no compromise. How can you say this was Trump's doing? Do you GET that DACA was created by Obama in 2012, and not Trump? The v**e was 50 - 49. Trump did not v**e - he is the President, he doesn't v**e in Congress. He signs bills that Congress passes (or vetoes them).


drump is supposed to set the tone, he is the biggest failure we have ever had as President. I feel bad for the Military, glad I am not in it anymore. The thing I think is criminal is that congress gets paid, unbelievable.

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Jan 20, 2018 14:58:24   #
drainbamage
 
Banker0715 wrote:
drump is supposed to set the tone, he is the biggest failure we have ever had as President. I feel bad for the Military, glad I am not in it anymore. The thing I think is criminal is that congress gets paid, unbelievable.


What does that mean - "set the tone"? This was a bill that was presented to Congress, who v**ed it down before it even got to Trump. How can he "set a tone" with that? The military know where this is coming from, and it is not Trump. My son is in the Air Force, and he expressly blames the Democrats for their greediness for wanting it all without giving anything. The military are about 98% FOR Trump, and that will be important in 2020.

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Jan 20, 2018 14:59:57   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
drainbamage wrote:
The Democrats wanted to have all or nothing. Trump wanted the wall...or no chain migration...or no lottery migration. He got nothing. The Democrats wanted Amnesty, but screwed that up by wanting it all, with no compromise. How can you say this was Trump's doing? Do you GET that DACA was created by Obama in 2012, and not Trump? The v**e was 50 - 49. Trump did not v**e - he is the President, he doesn't v**e in Congress. He signs bills that Congress passes (or vetoes them).


Schumer put Trumps wall on the Table to no avail.

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Jan 20, 2018 15:00:47   #
MikeMck Loc: Southern Maryland on the Bay
 
Right, don't blame the president who could have had a bill signed two days ago, but changed his small mind. I was for Reagan when I was in the Navy, too.

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Jan 20, 2018 15:01:41   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
drainbamage wrote:
What does that mean - "set the tone"? This was a bill that was presented to Congress, who v**ed it down before it even got to Trump. How can he "set a tone" with that? The military know where this is coming from, and it is not Trump. My son is in the Air Force, and he expressly blames the Democrats for their greediness for wanting it all without giving anything. The military are about 98% FOR Trump, and that will be important in 2020.


Pretty good, having a son who is ranked high enough to speak for the air force.

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Jan 20, 2018 15:02:20   #
drainbamage
 
Banker0715 wrote:
Right, don't blame the president who could have had a bill signed two days ago, but changed his small mind. I was for Reagan when I was in the Navy, too.


That doesn't even make any sense. I think you are either losing it, or just don't get the way it works (or don't want to). This is just a waste of time any more.

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Jan 20, 2018 15:14:46   #
MikeMck Loc: Southern Maryland on the Bay
 
drainbamage wrote:
That doesn't even make any sense. I think you are either losing it, or just don't get the way it works (or don't want to). This is just a waste of time any more.


I agree lets not "talk" anymore its tough dealing with someone with a closed mind

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Jan 21, 2018 08:52:40   #
OlinBost Loc: Marietta, Ga.
 
It wasn't Trump... It was our fabulous Congress. Both sides.

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Jan 21, 2018 09:29:42   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Kraken wrote:
The buck will never stop at trumps desk. He will always find someone else to blame when things go wrong and take credit for someone else's work when things go right.


Blame shmame. How many times do I have to say that the bill NEVER got to his desk, the democrats in the senate k**led the bill. That's why it's called the Schumer shut down

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Jan 21, 2018 10:15:33   #
drainbamage
 
thom w wrote:
Pretty good, having a son who is ranked high enough to speak for the air force.


He is a Lt. Colonel, getting close enough.

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