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Nov 13, 2017 20:08:42   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
brooklyn-camera I wrote:
Shooting with the same camera 7D MKII and a Canon 70-200mm f/2.8 lens these photos were taken at the same game. Shooting info ISO 6400 70mm & 200mm, f/3.5, 1/800sec. Seems as if it is present when I first start shooting, could it be the cold effecting the camera from when I first start shooting? Don't have the RAW anymore, I dump them after I post the photos. I am not shooting through the glass, shooting from the bench.

Any and all help will be appreciated and thanking all members in advance for your time, effort and knowledge.
Shooting with the same camera 7D MKII and a Canon ... (show quote)

The first two definitely look like they were shot through reinforced glass.

The effect in the first image looks like moiré caused by the coincidence of the pattern of pixels with the pattern of the reinforcement in the shatter proof glass.

The second image shows much less moiré and a clearer image of the reinforcement.

In the third image was either not shot through the glass or the distance from the camera to the glass was significantly different than in the first two.

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Nov 13, 2017 20:19:38   #
brooklyn-camera I Loc: Brooklyn, NY
 
Had a clear UV filter for protection.
mcveed wrote:
Did you have any filters on the lens?

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Nov 13, 2017 20:21:40   #
brooklyn-camera I Loc: Brooklyn, NY
 
Not shot through anything except air. Shooting from the players bench, no glass, no nothing.
selmslie wrote:
The first two definitely look like they were shot through reinforced glass.

The effect in the first image looks like moiré caused by the coincidence of the pattern of pixels with the pattern of the reinforcement in the shatter proof glass.

The second image shows much less moiré and a clearer image of the reinforcement.

In the third image was either not shot through the glass or the distance from the camera to the glass was significantly different than in the first two.

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Nov 13, 2017 20:24:07   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
This is nothing like the pincushion effect which is the pinching of the image in the center. It’s a lens distortion— but it looks nothing like this.

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Nov 13, 2017 20:41:05   #
brooklyn-camera I Loc: Brooklyn, NY
 
Could this be a problem from post editing in LR Classic? I have no idea about this problem. It only happened it seems when I first starting to shoot the game. Shot about 1100 photos and less than 1%
came out like these, at the beginning of the match.
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
This is nothing like the pincushion effect which is the pinching of the image in the center. It’s a lens distortion— but it looks nothing like this.

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Nov 13, 2017 21:39:48   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
brooklyn-camera I wrote:
Not shot through anything except air. Shooting from the players bench, no glass, no nothing.

There is a definite moiré pattern in the first image and a weaker one in the second. The regular pattern that is interfering with the sensor pattern covers the entire second image from corner to corner.

So if it's not the glass, maybe its the camera.

The third image was at ISO 3200 and 165mm - no moiré and no pattern.

The first two images were shot at ISO 6400 and 200mm focal length. Maybe that is just not a good combination for your camera.

The only thing left is the Lightroom processing. Since I'm not an Adobe user, I will let someone else comment on that.

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Nov 13, 2017 21:48:44   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
brooklyn-camera I wrote:
Could this be a problem from post editing in LR Classic? I have no idea about this problem. It only happened it seems when I first starting to shoot the game. Shot about 1100 photos and less than 1%
came out like these, at the beginning of the match.


Can’t help you with LR. I don’t use it. Good luck!

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Nov 13, 2017 22:04:29   #
blue-ultra Loc: New Hampshire
 
It appears to me that you have exceeded the limits of the camera/lens for the lighting conditions. I may be off but I have seen this before with a friends Cannon camera, looked just like this.

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Nov 13, 2017 22:04:43   #
blue-ultra Loc: New Hampshire
 
It appears to me that you have exceeded the limits of the camera/lens for the lighting conditions. I may be off but I have seen this before with a friends Cannon camera, looked just like this.

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Nov 13, 2017 22:49:11   #
Uuglypher Loc: South Dakota (East River)
 
Note: the “pinching in” of the grid lines over the side of the player’s head is a precise demonstration of the “€œpincushion” €deformation. There are strange peripheral deformations as well, but pincushioning is classically centripetally adaxial, as in this image.

Absent knowledge of the cause of the grid lines renders explanation of central adaxial deformation combined with peripheral abnormalities problematic, but it does suggest that a role of the lens in the phenomenon ought be considered.

Dave


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Nov 13, 2017 23:01:54   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
So why no pincushioning of the face? Or the other patterns inconsistent to pincushioning off to the left of your lines?

This looks like no example of pincushioning I have seen in any lens test. If you have an example, please post the link

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Nov 14, 2017 01:25:57   #
Paulie Loc: NW IL
 
At one point I had an older Fuji S6000fd that sometimes did something like this in cold temperatures. There would be a "grid" and colors were washed out. It came to my mind since you are shooting hockey...
I've had to send it for warranty repair and it helped, but after a while it started doing the same thing again. I don't think I have used that camera ever since or at least not in winter.

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Nov 14, 2017 05:58:21   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
brooklyn-camera I wrote:
Shooting with the same camera 7D MKII and a Canon 70-200mm f/2.8 lens these photos were taken at the same game. Shooting info ISO 6400 70mm & 200mm, f/3.5, 1/800sec. Seems as if it is present when I first start shooting, could it be the cold effecting the camera from when I first start shooting? Don't have the RAW anymore, I dump them after I post the photos. I am not shooting through the glass, shooting from the bench.

Any and all help will be appreciated and thanking all members in advance for your time, effort and knowledge.
Shooting with the same camera 7D MKII and a Canon ... (show quote)


The first one is called a moire pattern. Only cause I can think of, as someone else mentioned,
is that you're shooting thru the plastic barrier. That can cause all kinds of distortion. One solution:
get up higher in a bleacher seat so you can shoot over the barrier. The downside, of course, it
that you wan't be at ice level. One other thing you can try as an experiment is to put your lens
right up against the barrier (touching it) and see if this helps. If you're already doing this, try
backing off a little (but not much). Best of luck. >Alan

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Nov 14, 2017 06:02:58   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
brooklyn-camera I wrote:
Shooting with the same camera 7D MKII and a Canon 70-200mm f/2.8 lens these photos were taken at the same game. Shooting info ISO 6400 70mm & 200mm, f/3.5, 1/800sec. Seems as if it is present when I first start shooting, could it be the cold effecting the camera from when I first start shooting? Don't have the RAW anymore, I dump them after I post the photos. I am not shooting through the glass, shooting from the bench.

Any and all help will be appreciated and thanking all members in advance for your time, effort and knowledge.
Shooting with the same camera 7D MKII and a Canon ... (show quote)


Since it's worse when you start shooting, it must be related to the camera. Can you reproduce this effect shooting elsewhere? Definitely a strange effect. It would be nice to unravel this mystery.

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Nov 14, 2017 06:07:21   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
mcveed wrote:
Did you have any filters on the lens?



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