Point me in the right direction: Adobe Lightroom (Page 2): I'm getting the message Jerry - go with LR Classic. It is deceiving (by Adobe) that they don't have a feature comparison...

MikWar Loc: Chicago, Western Suburbs

jerryc41 wrote:

Yes, LR6, as well. I used Sync a couple of days ago on 92 shots. Great feature.

I'm getting the message Jerry - go with LR Classic. It is deceiving (by Adobe) that they don't have a feature comparison between the two. It seems like the desktop version of the new LR should have about the same features as the LR Classic, just in an easier format.
Mike

MikWar Loc: Chicago, Western Suburbs

pithydoug wrote:

Good pointif he is using he wrong application. It's a very recent and confusing change.

That said, in the develop module there is the sync option. modify one picture and then hit the sync option on the page. It will resent a screen that allows you make all the same changes to all the pictures you select in the film strip. I can see where many may generally apply but others may not. If you fired off 12 shots at a relatively stationary bird where very little changes, sync can do wonders.

I agree, it has been confusing. I thought I was getting the latest/greatest LR when I downloaded the new LR CC, but it appears to be a striped-down version. The subscription does come with LR Classic and Photoshop. I'll have to play around with it.
Mike

Gitchigumi Loc: Wake Forest, NC

MikWar wrote:

I agree, it has been confusing. I thought I was getting the latest/greatest LR when I downloaded the new LR CC, but it appears to be a striped-down version. The subscription does come with LR Classic and Photoshop. I'll have to play around with it.
Mike

I feel your pain... Lightroom CC used to be the full-featured version. Now, with this latest release, it has been renamed Lightroom Classic CC. And, a new product was introduced as Lightroom CC. Talk about confusing. So, LR Classic gets you all features and functionality, whereas LR CC offers a similar, but somewhat limited capability. For now, at least, as Adobe plans to continue to develop and improve LR CC so that it eventually matches LR Classic CC in terms of capability and performance. But, that takes time. So, the two are different for now.

BTW, the above info was communicated by Julianne Kost, the Adobe training person, who is an excellent resource. She has a whole series of short and to-the-point LR videos. Highly recommended, and free! Here is a link... http://www.jkost.com/lightroom.html

MikWar Loc: Chicago, Western Suburbs

Gitchigumi wrote:

I feel your pain... Lightroom CC used to be the fu... (show quote)

I came across the first Kost video and it looked pretty good. Thanks for the link that included all the other videos. I agree with your analysis - they will continue upgrade the new LR CC until it is on par with LR Classic, then it will stop supporting Classic. Kost did make a point of saying they will continue to support and improve LR Classic for a long time.
Mike

Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina

If you are serious about learning how to use Lightroom and or Photoshop I can recommend investing in the training videos that Laura Shoe does. They are very useful and I used them to learn Lightroom starting last winter. I now have about 60K images in my Lightroom catalog. She teaches by topic and in 5 to 15 minute bites that are easy to digest or review and replay as needed.

Best,
Todd Ferguson

mborn Loc: Massachusetts

I use LR Classic and if I have to Batch process AT the bottom of the Right-side where it says sync I click it to auto sync

Pgphoto Loc: Brooklyn, NY

You can batch edit in lightroom. Edit one photo as you like then in filmstrip highlight that photo and then all the other photoes that you want to batch process. After the highlighting in the bottom right corner SYNC will be available once selected a full menu of available items will se shown. Pick the ones applicable to your workflow and once synced all pictures will have the same edits

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

MikWar wrote:

I take pictures of birds: sometimes for identifica... (show quote)

Use Lightroom Presets... or copy and paste Settings. Edit one image, select the range you want to appear similar, choose Copy Settings, check all the appropriate boxes in the dialog that pops up, and paste. You can fine tune those that need it.

If you're on a Mac, Graphic Converter X (10) is a great little batch processor that can rip through a folder of images quickly, applying the exact same change to each.

bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada

MikWar wrote:

I take pictures of birds: sometimes for identifica... (show quote)

Select the images and Sync; simplest operation in Lightroom!

bwa

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Here is a comparison chart and a "which should I use chart" from The Lightroom Queen:
http://www.lightroomqueen.com/lightroom-cc-vs-classic-features/

I see no reason for me to use the new one, I am content with classic and I would never use the cloud storage which seems to be the default, you have to make an effort to also store things elsewhere. I don't store anything on the cloud. That is just another way of saying "I will trust someone else to keep my files and will trust that I will ALWAYS have a good connection to access my stuff when I want/need it." Yes a cloud storage in addition to multiple backups that I control would be OK, but I have never felt the need. If you like/trust the cloud, OK, that is you and I am me.

I believe in Mr Murphy and his law. Back when the cloud was just started I read an article about a photographer who was on a long (3 month I believe) shoot in a remote area of Western China doing a series on a group of minority nomads. I seem to remember that it was for Nat Geo and maybe Smithsonian (you used to often see things in both magazines by the same person looking at something from a bit different angle). He came back to a major city to get supplies etc after about 6 weeks and put several thousand partly edited shots on one of the first biggies in the cloud storage business then went back to the other side of nowhere with NO connection. A few days after he went back the cloud storage company announced they were filing for bankruptcy and selling off everything. Customers had I seem to remember it was 30 or 45 days to recover their files then all the hardware was being wiped and sold off to pay bills. Well when he came back to the major city after a bit over 6 more weeks, his stuff was gone over a week before. Fortunately between his 6 weeks of new stuff and a few memory cards he hadn't reused he was able to pull off his articles. But I looked at that article and I could hear Murphy laughing his head off in the background.
Every so often we get a round of mergers, take overs, bankruptcy etc in the tech industry. Not to mention the chance of a fire taking out a company's servers and records. It happened to the VA when the record center in St Louis burned and hundreds of thousands of military records were just gone. Those were mainly paper, but, servers are not fireproof. Now I understand all records are scanned and multiple copies on servers around the country. Old ones that survived are still being scanned at the speed of government-SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOWLY. Once when I contacted them for something I found out that part of my records were destroyed, when they found out I had a lot of my old original stuff filed - they asked me to scan and send them copies.

MikWar Loc: Chicago, Western Suburbs

Notorious T.O.D. wrote:

If you are serious about learning how to use Lightroom and or Photoshop I can recommend investing in the training videos that Laura Shoe does. They are very useful and I used them to learn Lightroom starting last winter. I now have about 60K images in my Lightroom catalog. She teaches by topic and in 5 to 15 minute bites that are easy to digest or review and replay as needed.

Best,
Todd Ferguson

Thanks for the recommendation - I'll check them out.
Mike

MikWar Loc: Chicago, Western Suburbs

mborn wrote:

I use LR Classic and if I have to Batch process AT the bottom of the Right-side where it says sync I click it to auto sync

Nice trick - thanks!
Mike

MikWar Loc: Chicago, Western Suburbs

burkphoto wrote:

Use Lightroom Presets... or copy and paste Settings. Edit one image, select the range you want to appear similar, choose Copy Settings, check all the appropriate boxes in the dialog that pops up, and paste. You can fine tune those that need it.

If you're on a Mac, Graphic Converter X (10) is a great little batch processor that can rip through a folder of images quickly, applying the exact same change to each.

Thanks for the tips!
Mike

MikWar Loc: Chicago, Western Suburbs

robertjerl wrote:

Here is a comparison chart and a "which should I use chart" from The Lightroom Queen:
http://www.lightroomqueen.com/lightroom-cc-vs-classic-features/

I see no reason for me to use the new one, I am content with classic and I would never use the cloud storage which seems to be the default, you have to make an effort to also store things elsewhere. I don't store anything on the cloud. That is just another way of saying "I will trust someone else to keep my files and will trust that I will ALWAYS have a good connection to access my stuff when I want/need it." Yes a cloud storage in addition to multiple backups that I control would be OK, but I have never felt the need. If you like/trust the cloud, OK, that is you and I am me.

I believe in Mr Murphy and his law. Back when the cloud was just started I read an article about a photographer who was on a long (3 month I believe) shoot in a remote area of Western China doing a series on a group of minority nomads. I seem to remember that it was for Nat Geo and maybe Smithsonian (you used to often see things in both magazines by the same person looking at something from a bit different angle). He came back to a major city to get supplies etc after about 6 weeks and put several thousand partly edited shots on one of the first biggies in the cloud storage business then went back to the other side of nowhere with NO connection. A few days after he went back the cloud storage company announced they were filing for bankruptcy and selling off everything. Customers had I seem to remember it was 30 or 45 days to recover their files then all the hardware was being wiped and sold off to pay bills. Well when he came back to the major city after a bit over 6 more weeks, his stuff was gone over a week before. Fortunately between his 6 weeks of new stuff and a few memory cards he hadn't reused he was able to pull off his articles. But I looked at that article and I could hear Murphy laughing his head off in the background.
Every so often we get a round of mergers, take overs, bankruptcy etc in the tech industry. Not to mention the chance of a fire taking out a company's servers and records. It happened to the VA when the record center in St Louis burned and hundreds of thousands of military records were just gone. Those were mainly paper, but, servers are not fireproof. Now I understand all records are scanned and multiple copies on servers around the country. Old ones that survived are still being scanned at the speed of government-SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOWLY. Once when I contacted them for something I found out that part of my records were destroyed, when they found out I had a lot of my old original stuff filed - they asked me to scan and send them copies.

Here is a comparison chart and a "which shoul... (show quote)

Interesting account. I feel I do want the cloud because we travel quite a bit. I can take my laptop and continue editing, etc. However, let the buyer beware! Thanks for the advice.
Mike

MikWar Loc: Chicago, Western Suburbs

robertjerl wrote:

Here is a comparison chart and a "which should I use chart" from The Lightroom Queen:
http://www.lightroomqueen.com/lightroom-cc-vs-classic-features/

Check out the chart - very comprehensive - wish Adobe would have done the same thing. Thanks!
Mike