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Oct 27, 2017 14:25:41   #
Robert Bailey Loc: Canada
 
I agree with Cholly- camera's keep improving and that is good for us photographers.

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Oct 27, 2017 17:13:39   #
CO
 
I would like to see what a Nikon medium format digital camera would be like. They would blow all other medium format digital cameras out of the water.

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Oct 27, 2017 17:30:50   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
Well... it would probably have a Sony sensor in it.

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Oct 27, 2017 19:33:34   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
CO wrote:
I would like to see what a Nikon medium format digital camera would be like. They would blow all other medium format digital cameras out of the water.

I'm guessing this was a statement of opinion.
A Sony user would probably construct the same sentence using the word "Sony" instead of "Nikon".
{yawn}

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Oct 27, 2017 19:34:31   #
Robert Bailey Loc: Canada
 
As far as I know, Nikon has never made a medium format camera.
I still own 8 film medium format cameras made by other companies though.

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Oct 27, 2017 21:57:50   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
rehess wrote:
I'm guessing this was a statement of opinion.
A Sony user would probably construct the same sentence using the word "Sony" instead of "Nikon".
{yawn}


Well... Sony DOES have a proven track record of making exceptional MF sensors...

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Oct 27, 2017 23:14:39   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Which is best:
Apples or oranges?

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Oct 27, 2017 23:31:15   #
jethro779 Loc: Tucson, AZ
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Which is best:
Apples or oranges?


On my stomach, apples. Oranges give me heartburn. Of course I can never stop with eating just one orange either.

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Oct 27, 2017 23:47:38   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
As I've commented earlier, this entire running discussion is dumb. Even before Nikon folk were figuratively dancing in the streets, DxOMark had reported a higher score for the Pentax 645Z ... but then withdrew it; why they then pushed the Hasselblad score out while still sitting on the Pentax score remains mysterious ... but this whole thing is just a small piece of the entire picture. These top scores are so close as to be functionally meaningless, and then we have to remember that the usefulness of a camera includes User Interface, hardware and software not tested by DxOMark, and other gear available. Factor in cost, and anyone doing an honest evaluation should have stomach issues.

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Oct 28, 2017 08:51:47   #
cthahn
 
Something new to worry about. Now everyone will want their money back.

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Oct 28, 2017 08:59:19   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
rehess wrote:
As I've commented earlier, this entire running discussion is dumb. Even before Nikon folk were figuratively dancing in the streets, DxOMark had reported a higher score for the Pentax 645Z ... but then withdrew it; why they then pushed the Hasselblad score out while still sitting on the Pentax score remains mysterious ... but this whole thing is just a small piece of the entire picture. These top scores are so close as to be functionally meaningless, and then we have to remember that the usefulness of a camera includes User Interface, hardware and software not tested by DxOMark, and other gear available. Factor in cost, and anyone doing an honest evaluation should have stomach issues.
As I've commented earlier, this entire running dis... (show quote)


Good point. Now with all that talk can anyone do the walk? Can anyone really see a difference between a score of 100 to 101 or better yet 102 with the naked eye. True it's good for competition but maybe because I'm, my eyes anyway, older I don't think I could see the difference. It's like new cars, one with 670 HP and the other with 700 HP, on the drag strip if the 670HP has a better driver and I'm not talking software either it can still beat the higher HP car, same with cameras. It's sounds like bragging rights.

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Oct 28, 2017 09:10:20   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Robert Bailey wrote:
After only a few weeks in the number one position, the Nikon D850 has been knocked down to the number two spot by the Hasselblad X1D 50C.
The ratings are provided by dxomark. com.
The Nikon D850 was the first camera to receive a score of 100,
but the Hasselblad has received a score of 102.
(The ratings are NOT out of 100- it is a sliding scale.)


https://petapixel.com/2017/10/26/sorry-nikon-d850-hasselblads-x1d-50c-just-got-dxomark-score-102/?mc_cid=d7cea9de5d&mc_eid=3989547577
After only a few weeks in the number one position,... (show quote)


At $13,400.00 it damn well should have beat a camera costing $3300.00. Boy, for a difference of 2 points on the fabulous, very accurate, highly touted DXO score everyone and their mother should go right out and buy this camera, don't forget that the Hasselblad at that price DOES come with a 40 mm lens.OH BOY!

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Oct 28, 2017 09:14:31   #
steve03 Loc: long Lsland
 
I keep hearing that cell phones are the future of photography and DSLR's are a thing of the past. While taking pictures with my D-750 people have asked me how old is that camera. Now all these companies are coming out with new "super camera's" and they seem to be selling very well and they cost in the thousands. I guess the death of DSLR's are greatly exaggerated

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Oct 28, 2017 09:42:38   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
You know Robert, I am not the kind of person who cares very much about having 50 Mp. in my cameras. For my needs 17 megapixels are more than enough although one of my cameras sports 24 Mp.
To me if the Hasselbladd is better in quality than the D850 is totally irrelevant, I will not use in my photography any of those two cameras. I am perfectly well satisfied with what I have now. I am saying this understanding that others will not share my opinion. We are all different.
Any photographer and, I am well aware you know this, that is not capable of producing good work with a 12 Mp. camera will not become better using a 50 Mp. camera with professional lenses. I believe that we should use not what is more technically advanced but exactly what we need. Many but many photographers are perfectly happy with their old cameras.
I have quoted this before from Jack Dykinga, "Concentrate on technology and your pictures will be technically excellent. Concentrate on the nuisances of light and your pictures will stir the soul."

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Oct 28, 2017 10:02:41   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
billnikon wrote:
At $13,400.00 it damn well should have beat a camera costing $3300.00. Boy, for a difference of 2 points on the fabulous, very accurate, highly touted DXO score everyone and their mother should go right out and buy this camera, don't forget that the Hasselblad at that price DOES come with a 40 mm lens.OH BOY!

Not quite the song you were singing when the D850 was top - you never mentioned price of most of those below it.

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