Lightroom Workflow Question
Oct 9, 2017 09:41:28 #
This is has been an annoyance for me in Lightroom for a long time now and I have not asked for help thinking that the answer was right in front of me and would become obvious. Not happened yet so I will ask.
The issue is when I am culling through hundreds of photos from a shoot I will edit from the develop mode and if all is good then export. If I need to go into Photoshop then I do so, make my edits and close and save back to Lightroom. Well, I like to then move on to the next photo in sequential order but sometimes when the photo is returned to Lightroom it is placed at the very end of my stack of hundreds of photos and I need to go back to my starting point. Sometimes it returns the photo in order. I don't know why ... Is there a setting somewhere to insure my photos are returned in order. Sorry if this is a dumb question, but the answer has eluded me.
The issue is when I am culling through hundreds of photos from a shoot I will edit from the develop mode and if all is good then export. If I need to go into Photoshop then I do so, make my edits and close and save back to Lightroom. Well, I like to then move on to the next photo in sequential order but sometimes when the photo is returned to Lightroom it is placed at the very end of my stack of hundreds of photos and I need to go back to my starting point. Sometimes it returns the photo in order. I don't know why ... Is there a setting somewhere to insure my photos are returned in order. Sorry if this is a dumb question, but the answer has eluded me.
Oct 9, 2017 09:50:04 #
" ... Is there a setting somewhere to insure my photos are returned in order."
Yes, there is a setting and it is in the Preferences Pane under "External Editing" and near the bottom of the panel, make sure that "Stack with original" is checked.
Yes, there is a setting and it is in the Preferences Pane under "External Editing" and near the bottom of the panel, make sure that "Stack with original" is checked.
Oct 9, 2017 10:05:54 #
jaysnave wrote:
This is has been an annoyance for me in Lightroom ... (show quote)
If you rename the photo after editing in Photoshop, then it places it at the end. If you simply use Ctrl-S to save the image it will be saved with the same name as the original with the .psd extension right next to the original raw in LR.
Oct 9, 2017 10:50:27 #
jeep_daddy wrote:
If you rename the photo after editing in Photoshop, then it places it at the end. If you simply use Ctrl-S to save the image it will be saved with the same name as the original with the .psd extension right next to the original raw in LR.
Tried that and it does save next to the original, but puts them both at the end. PS is saving as a TIF so changes the name extension to - edit.tif
Oct 9, 2017 10:51:34 #
flyguy wrote:
" ... Is there a setting somewhere to insure my photos are returned in order."
Yes, there is a setting and it is in the Preferences Pane under "External Editing" and near the bottom of the panel, make sure that "Stack with original" is checked.
Yes, there is a setting and it is in the Preferences Pane under "External Editing" and near the bottom of the panel, make sure that "Stack with original" is checked.
It has been checked, but still placing photos at the end. It does stack with original but at the end of the sequence.
Oct 9, 2017 11:13:46 #
Look at your sorting order. Images can be arranged by Capture Time that maintains the sort order of all images when returned from an external editor as the image capture time / date is not modified by the external editor. Using another sort order like Edit Time, Edit Count or Added Order will result in behavior similar to what you've described. If the images are not automatically stacked, also look into the other settings as mentioned in earlier responses.
Oct 9, 2017 12:06:12 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Look at your sorting order. Images can be arranged by Capture Time that maintains the sort order of all images when returned from an external editor as the image capture time / date is not modified by the external editor. Using another sort order like Edit Time, Edit Count or Added Order will result in behavior similar to what you've described. If the images are not automatically stacked, also look into the other settings as mentioned in earlier responses.
Apparently, they are sorted by capture time when imported into Lightroom. When it returns from Photoshop it always is at the very end. Always, but sometimes all of the sudden they will be returned in capture time order. I am still stumped. I looked through settings again, but can not find a place where I can specify return to capture time order.
Oct 9, 2017 12:48:01 #
jaysnave wrote:
Apparently, they are sorted by capture time when imported into Lightroom. When it returns from Photoshop it always is at the very end. Always, but sometimes all of the sudden they will be returned in capture time order. I am still stumped. I looked through settings again, but can not find a place where I can specify return to capture time order.
The sort order is an aspect of the Library Module, not the import / re-import options. You won't find such a setting in the external editor preferences. I'm not there the physically watch with another set of eyes at what you're doing and whether your edit-in actions originate from the Library or Develop modules and how the sorting changes (and whether you're in a collection or the All Photographs catalog and other details that might help ...)
The point being: set the sort order to capture time when viewed in the LR Library module and the images will sort in the order as expected.
You might also look and confirm the file naming convention of files sent to the external editor. Image "DSC123.TIF" and "Edited-DSC123.TIF" will sort differently if sorted by file name even if they have the same capture date and time ....
Oct 9, 2017 13:02:11 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
The sort order is an aspect of the Library Module,... (show quote)
YES!!!!
Sort by capture time in the library module did it! Thank you!!!
Oct 9, 2017 13:06:54 #
Oct 9, 2017 13:09:07 #
Just finished the editing of 400 pics and it would have saved me some sleep if I had asked yesterday, but I am looking forward to more control next time!
Oct 10, 2017 10:04:05 #
Where does one find the "sort order" to make the change to "capture time"?
CHG_CANON wrote:
The sort order is an aspect of the Library Module,... (show quote)
Oct 10, 2017 10:16:24 #
Pixelpixie88 wrote:
Where does one find the "sort order" to make the change to "capture time"?
In the Library module, look for a bar of options immediately below the thumbnails of your images (be in the Grid mode or press the G key). There's a "down arrow" on the right side of that bar. Press and show the options menu. Select Sorting. You should then see A>Z and the reverse available as well as all the different sort orders that range from Capture Time to Aspect Ratio and a Custom Order. Click the two small arrows to show the menu that changes the sort order.
Oct 10, 2017 10:46:24 #
I do this fairly frequently. Sometimes I find the "new" image right next to the original. Sometimes it's at the end. But the same thing happens in other programs as well. And sometimes, if I wait a bit, it will automatically get moved back beside the original. I've decided it has to do with how full the RAM is.
Oct 10, 2017 11:12:58 #
Thank you so much!!
CHG_CANON wrote:
In the Library module, look for a bar of options immediately below the thumbnails of your images (be in the Grid mode or press the G key). There's a "down arrow" on the right side of that bar. Press and show the options menu. Select Sorting. You should then see A>Z and the reverse available as well as all the different sort orders that range from Capture Time to Aspect Ratio and a Custom Order. Click the two small arrows to show the menu that changes the sort order.
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