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Oct 5, 2017 11:16:11   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
I'm old and slow. My reaction time is not what it used to be. Draw your own conclusion from the attached pic.

The D500 sensor has 54K pixels per square mm. The D850 sensor has 53K pixels per square mm. I want birds with all their parts.


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Oct 5, 2017 11:20:33   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Simply zoom back or recompose.
But truthfully, except for the 10fps there is no real impelling reason to keep the D500. I am considering selling mine because I have never needed 10fps. My trusty D800E is now my backup to my D850.

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Oct 5, 2017 11:22:11   #
pentaxion Loc: Daytona Beach
 
Then use a wider lens.

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Oct 5, 2017 11:38:46   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Simply zoom back or recompose.
But truthfully, except for the 10fps there is no real impelling reason to keep the D500. I am considering selling mine because I have never needed 10fps. My trusty D800E is now my backup to my D850.


Recompose is hard to do when the bird flies out of frame before I react.
Zoom back, same as my response to Pentaxion.
Tough decisions to make. The D500 is my newest baby and hard to part with, and it does extremely on stationary subjects. Oh, what to do?

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Oct 5, 2017 11:41:26   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
pentaxion wrote:
Then use a wider lens.

That's the problem. Wider lens = fewer pixels on target = less detail.

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Oct 5, 2017 11:44:38   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
I could, however, be willing to part with the Nikon 200-500mm f/5.6.

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Oct 5, 2017 12:10:48   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Sensor size will not 'repair' bad timing, sorry.

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Oct 5, 2017 12:13:51   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Sensor size will not 'repair' bad timing, sorry.


Oh, but it will, it will, Ron. Bigger sensor means more time in frame.

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Oct 5, 2017 12:26:35   #
jmvaugh Loc: Albuquerque
 
OddJobber wrote:
Oh, but it will, it will, Ron. Bigger sensor means more time in frame.


You don’t need to justify to Hoggers that you want a new camera - just get it and enjoy! If you need Hoggers votes to convince your Significant Other, whose also your Chief Financial Officer, then: OMG, you really need that brand new D850 with the bigger, high resolution sensor to save your photography!
Your welcome.

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Oct 5, 2017 12:26:46   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
OddJobber wrote:
I'm old and slow. My reaction time is not what it used to be..... I want birds with all their parts.


OddJobber wrote:
Oh, but it will, it will, Ron. Bigger sensor means more time in frame.


So, once you get the D850 and find that you miss some shots with that.... Will you then trade it in on a medium format digital such as Fuji GFX, Leaf/Mamiya, Pentax or Hasselblad?

And, when you still miss some shots with the MF digital... will you be trading it in on a large format film camera?

Of course not! But this is no sillier than your reasoning for swapping out your current camera for a new model that you're drooling over.

But, hey, use whatever justification works for you!

P.S. I know you don't want to hear it... and probably already know... but you'd accomplish the same thing with a shorter focal length lens on your current camera. If that shot was made with a 600mm, using a 500mm or 400mm would have done the trick.

One thing I can guarantee you about the D850 (which I do see in your future)... you'll miss some shots with it, too.

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Oct 5, 2017 12:39:23   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
jmvaugh wrote:
You don’t need to justify to Hoggers that you want a new camera - just get it and enjoy! If you need Hoggers votes to convince your Significant Other, whose also your Chief Financial Officer, then: OMG, you really need that brand new D850 with the bigger, high resolution sensor to save your photography!
Your welcome.
You don’t need to justify to Hoggers that you want... (show quote)


Thank you for your encouragement. BTW, separate bank accounts for the sig other and me.

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Oct 5, 2017 12:44:10   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
amfoto1 wrote:
So, once you get the D850 and find that you miss some shots with that.... Will you then trade it in on a medium format digital such as Fuji GFX, Leaf/Mamiya, Pentax or Hasselblad?

One thing I can guarantee you about the D850 (which I do see in your future)... you'll miss some shots with it, too.


One step at a time amfoto. But now that you mention it, is anyone making an 8 X 10 inch digital sensor yet?

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Oct 5, 2017 12:50:01   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
amfoto1 wrote:
So, once you get the D850 and find that you miss some shots with that.... Will you then trade it in on a medium format digital such as Fuji GFX, Leaf/Mamiya, Pentax or Hasselblad?

And, when you still miss some shots with the MF digital... will you be trading it in on a large format film camera?

Of course not! But this is no sillier than your reasoning for swapping out your current camera for a new model that you're drooling over.

Providing more space is a very reasonable way of capturing birds - which are often quicker than one would expect. My reflexes aren't what they used to be, so lots of space is the only way I captured "Black Bird in flight" when my intention was to capture "Black Bird taking off"
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-460417-17.html#7791538

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Oct 5, 2017 13:09:13   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
rehess wrote:
My reflexes aren't what they used to be, so lots of space is the only way I captured "Black Bird in flight" when my intention was to capture "Black Bird taking off"
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-460417-17.html#7791538


LOL. Thanks for the link. I don't know how I missed all 21 pages of that thread before.

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Oct 5, 2017 13:11:40   #
Jim Bob
 
OddJobber wrote:
I could, however, be willing to part with the Nikon 200-500mm f/5.6.


Don't do it!

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