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Trump Goes Insane At The UN And Calls N. Korea’s Kim Jung Un Rocket Man
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Sep 20, 2017 13:36:54   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
charles tabb wrote:
I honestly can't believe what you answered.
You obviously didn't listen to what he said.


"I feel putting him down is the only answer, before he tries to do us and others in"

That is your post I responded to. Exactly what is your idea of how to "put him down" without massive collateral damage? I'm not suggesting that there could be no circumstances where we would use force. It's possible that we may have to, but we need to be aware of the costs. I don't think calling him rocket man helps, no matter the circumstances. If you disagree, give me one example of how things are safer for Trump making fun of him. He may be a madman, but if he is, he's a madman wearing a suicide vest.

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Sep 20, 2017 14:35:12   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
dirtpusher wrote:
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/09/19/trump-insane-calls-n-koreas-kim-jung-rocket-man.html


It has become clear that Mr. Trump has never had an original thought in his entire life...

Here's a photo of the cover of a magazine with Kim Jung's daddy...in 2006



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Sep 20, 2017 14:51:58   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
phcaan wrote:
How stupid were we? How stupid were you to put a c*******t muslim in the office of the president of the United States of America? Oh, I forgot, you too are a c*******t and a radical muslim terrorist sympathizer, so I guess for you a patriotic American is the enemy.


In your case, stupid enough to believe he's a c*******t Muslim.

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Sep 20, 2017 15:19:40   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
RichieC wrote:
And because the WORLD waited, not just the US... 80 million died as a result. But that is just a number- so you don't care. You don't care that starvation is rampant, human rights are non existent, where a t***sgression against the government like watching a movie can send your entire family, mom dad, brothers sisters grandparents and aunts and uncles, to a concentration camp to die, meanwhile, $$$ is being spent on programs including millions on ballistic missles then lobbing them over another country, that a hydrogen bomb, 7 times more powerful than Hiroshima was tested, that used nerve agents to murder a memb er of the ruling famil outside their county... that murdered a US student for taking a banner... rocket boy is a funny name for someone worse, much worse than Hitler.

But sitting back... maybe helping him is a viable option. Just ask the 80,000 souls last time that was tried. It's a mess no doubt... but not one we can ignore, there are no easy options. But just so long as you are not affected, right?

Sitting and watching is
And because the WORLD waited, not just the US... 8... (show quote)


OK, you've told me lots that's wrong. Do you have any solutions?

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Sep 20, 2017 15:21:31   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
dennis2146 wrote:
thom I know I am not supposed to talk to you because you will start crying those little snowflake tears of yours and we will all feel bad. OK not true but YOU will feel bad. As a typical Liberal you feel the need to interject race into this discussion by bringing up that people in North Korea are not white. Wow! How astute of you. No s**t.

Other US Presidents have allowed other nations with North Korea and Iran being at the top rung of the ladder to threaten America and our allies with nothing being done about it. So these nations have simply upped their game. The worst was Obama who encouraged Iran to be bolder while doing absolutely nothing about North Korea. Now NK is actually testing rockets by sending them over Japan, one of our allies we have sworn to protect. At the same time Kim Jung Un has said and continues to say he will send a nuclear bomb toward America. You i***ts on the Left hear little Kimmy saying he will annihilate America, you see him testing rockets to deliver a bomb and then you say Trump is crazy and trying to start a war and force KJU into attacking us. WTF would you have President Trump do? Do you want him to be just like Obama and kiss everyone's ass? Do you want him to simply look the other way as Bill Clinton and Obama did? I v**ed for Trump because he isn't like politicians. I want straight talk for Americans and I want him to lay all cards on the table for countries who are aggressors toward America and our allies. I WANT Trump to tell these people that IF they choose to do anything to us or our allies that they will be wiped off the face of the planet. You, on the other hand, seem to want to wait until one of our big cities on the West Coast is a nuclear wasteland and then b***h and whine with those little snowflake tears of yours that, Trump didn't do anything to protect us.

How the hell do you blame Trump and say he is crazy (Liberals collectively) for saying we will retaliate if bombed when it is North Korea who says it will bomb us?

Now read this and then go wipe the tears from your eyes.

Dennis
thom I know I am not supposed to talk to you becau... (show quote)


You shouldn't do so much mind reading. You aren't very good at it.

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Sep 20, 2017 17:03:06   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
KGOldWolf wrote:
Dennis, I don't think anyone wants Kim to have the chance for to use his weapons. Most Americans, even those you denigrate as "liberals", love our country and want its citizens and overall best interests protected.

I believe you are wrong to think NK is a problem created by "liberals". Kim is the 3rd generation of a line of paranoid dictators. His family line extends through several administrations both Dem and Repub. As a nation we've tried many approaches to lessen the NK threat and all have failed. Trump's approach is the last available to us and our continued safety. His manner of handling it is for history to decide.

NK's rapid advancements in ICBM and nuclear weapon technology is too fast for reasonable people to accept - he's assuredly getting help and it is coming from countries who recently decided to support our sanctions.

Trump is right for telling NK we will not allow attacks on us or our allies but his way of doing it is a real concern. Sometimes the message is lost because the delivery distracts from its importance. If we or our allies are attacked, we must respond. However, right now the world and many Americans (myself included) feel Trump is more interested in war than peace. His bombast and crude threats will make the US seem like we were itching for a war when we aren't. Some will view an attack on the US as "well he asked for it" instead of admitting we had no choice. Resorting to stupid name-calling instead of admirable statesmanship is far more than embarrassing. It makes us look like a petty, nuclear bully.

IMHO, Trump is unfit to lead the IS. He might have the right ideas but he is dangerously incompetent at implementing them.
Dennis, I don't think anyone wants Kim to have the... (show quote)


I never said NK was the product of Liberals. But it is Liberals who have been pandering to that country/regime for decades. Think of a small child who seems to get his own way forever because his loving and permissive parents just h**e to tell him NO. After years of this (as in the case of NK) the presumption from the child/NK is that they really can do wh**ever they want to do. No Democrat President has ever stood up to NK and said NO. Finally Trump is doing exactly that because KJU is telling the world he will fire rockets toward Japan and the United States. He is also working on nuclear bombs that he says he will use. We all know KJU is mentally ill so he really could fire an atomic weapon at America at any time. If he did it tomorrow wouldn't you be a bit pissed if President Trump hadn't finally said NO?

Why put the onus on President Trump? He HAS tried diplomacy by using sanctions and by communicating with China, who really sort of runs NK. Neither seems to be working; at least KJU is still ranting he will annihilate Japan and America. You on the Left always cry out for diplomatic negotiation but you forget or don't want to remember Trump has tried that. The Trump State Department has tried that as well. So thom, what is it you would do? Give us YOUR best viewpoint. You are the President and you are in charge. Go for it. You Liberals tell us that it is Trump that is crazy but say nothing about KJU. That my incredibly good friend is what got us into this mess in the first place. Neither Bill Clinton nor Obama, especially Obama would say NO. I admit the Republican President in-between didn't do much either. So what would you do thom?

Dennis

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Sep 20, 2017 17:08:25   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
thom w wrote:
Not being a politician may have gotten him elected but it is hampering him from accomplishing anything now that he has been elected.


Feckless Republicans who are stuck in their ways and h**eful Democrats are what is hampering Trump. He does have some sound ideas but Republicans don't want to support him because they don't like him. So far he is doing pretty well. He wants to lower taxes, he wants to get something about the immigration policy including DACA, the DOW is up again today. Other than the fact you on the Left simply don't like that he beat your Golden Goddess, a corrupt piece of s**t in disguise, President Trump may be somewhat inexperienced, somewhat crude and a bit unpolished around the edges to fit your mold of Obama, who was not that good, he hasn't really screwed up as you all said he would.

Dennis

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Sep 20, 2017 17:18:26   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
thom w wrote:
You shouldn't do so much mind reading. You aren't very good at it.


thom you are sooo forgetful. Don't you remember you wanted to sever our relationship only a few days ago? Did you really forget that? It was you who wrote the post saying you didn't want me writing posts to you anymore, in your own flowery words of course. I am not too computer savvy so don't know how to look up the exact thread as some might do but yes, that is basically what you said. So now you are telling me I am mind reading. WTF thom, what mind would I be reading? Certainly not yours. I could be done with that in two or three seconds.

Dennis

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Sep 20, 2017 17:20:22   #
KGOldWolf
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I never said NK was the product of Liberals. But it is Liberals who have been pandering to that country/regime for decades. Think of a small child who seems to get his own way forever because his loving and permissive parents just h**e to tell him NO. After years of this (as in the case of NK) the presumption from the child/NK is that they really can do wh**ever they want to do. No Democrat President has ever stood up to NK and said NO. Finally Trump is doing exactly that because KJU is telling the world he will fire rockets toward Japan and the United States. He is also working on nuclear bombs that he says he will use. We all know KJU is mentally ill so he really could fire an atomic weapon at America at any time. If he did it tomorrow wouldn't you be a bit pissed if President Trump hadn't finally said NO?

Why put the onus on President Trump? He HAS tried diplomacy by using sanctions and by communicating with China, who really sort of runs NK. Neither seems to be working; at least KJU is still ranting he will annihilate Japan and America. You on the Left always cry out for diplomatic negotiation but you forget or don't want to remember Trump has tried that. The Trump State Department has tried that as well. So thom, what is it you would do? Give us YOUR best viewpoint. You are the President and you are in charge. Go for it. You Liberals tell us that it is Trump that is crazy but say nothing about KJU. That my incredibly good friend is what got us into this mess in the first place. Neither Bill Clinton nor Obama, especially Obama would say NO. I admit the Republican President in-between didn't do much either. So what would you do thom?

Dennis
I never said NK was the product of Liberals. But ... (show quote)


My point is that the Kim family has been a problem for three generations and past administrations, both dem and repubs have failed to stop them. I also said Trump is using the option available to the US. It is to his credit that he is standing up to them but his approach is making it difficult for the US to claim the moral high ground because of his bellicose words and his petty name calling. He likely has the right idea but he is going about in a way that he is undermining himself and us by association.

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Sep 20, 2017 17:37:36   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
Reddog wrote:
No Trump is a Con man who calls names like a 5 year old. We might have just as well elected Flying Pussy to name call! Trump lost all respect of the World to our Country and the office of POTUS.

He only lost respect with the left leaning socialists still sulking because their e******n fix for the wicked witch of the east didn't work out.

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Sep 20, 2017 17:38:51   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
charles tabb wrote:
I honestly can't believe what you answered.
You obviously didn't listen to what he said.

It's c****e tommie charles, you will soon get use to it as the rest of us have.

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Sep 20, 2017 17:40:23   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I never said NK was the product of Liberals. But it is Liberals who have been pandering to that country/regime for decades. Think of a small child who seems to get his own way forever because his loving and permissive parents just h**e to tell him NO. After years of this (as in the case of NK) the presumption from the child/NK is that they really can do wh**ever they want to do. No Democrat President has ever stood up to NK and said NO. Finally Trump is doing exactly that because KJU is telling the world he will fire rockets toward Japan and the United States. He is also working on nuclear bombs that he says he will use. We all know KJU is mentally ill so he really could fire an atomic weapon at America at any time. If he did it tomorrow wouldn't you be a bit pissed if President Trump hadn't finally said NO?

Why put the onus on President Trump? He HAS tried diplomacy by using sanctions and by communicating with China, who really sort of runs NK. Neither seems to be working; at least KJU is still ranting he will annihilate Japan and America. You on the Left always cry out for diplomatic negotiation but you forget or don't want to remember Trump has tried that. The Trump State Department has tried that as well. So thom, what is it you would do? Give us YOUR best viewpoint. You are the President and you are in charge. Go for it. You Liberals tell us that it is Trump that is crazy but say nothing about KJU. That my incredibly good friend is what got us into this mess in the first place. Neither Bill Clinton nor Obama, especially Obama would say NO. I admit the Republican President in-between didn't do much either. So what would you do thom?

Dennis
I never said NK was the product of Liberals. But ... (show quote)


First for your analogy to be in any way applicable the child would have to be wearing a suicide vest. We don't know that Kim is mentally ill. He may well be but it isn't something that is known and accepted fact as you would indicate. I'm not particularly worried about Kim's feelings or his personal safety, but rushing into complex situations thinking they are simple isn't smart. I don't think how he treats his people is very relevant to anything other than what we can learn about Kim by observing it. I can't imagine how you can save or protect the N Koreans. We don't even have any idea as to whether they would want "saved". If you k**l someone while attempting to rescue them, they may not think you did them any favor. If he attacks anyone we may have to launch an attack. I really don't want to see us cause the death of 20 or 40 million people. I don't see him attacking unless he thinks he's dead whether he attacks or not. In that situation I imagine he would reek a bit of havoc. It's also possible that if you push him against the wall and he feels the need to save face he would attack. Otherwise, everything I have heard and read suggests he's interested in surviving.He feels that if he surrenders his nukes, it's all over for him. We don't exactly have a reputation of being someone you can trust. We really don't want to isolate ourselves in the world. It will take a carrot and stick approach. I haven't heard us offering any carrots. He needs to fear us and trust us. I don't know if he fears us. I'm sure he doesn't trust us. I'm not saying I can fix the situation, but then I didn't run for president and he shouldn't have either. The state department is a ghost ship right now. This is a situation where a full crew would be very helpful. We don't even have an ambassador to S Korea at this time. Being inexperienced is one thing. Being inexperienced and not listening to anyone who is experienced is problematic. Diplomacy isn't to be nice to other countries. Diplomacy is because it frequently makes it a lot easier to get what we want. Taking out N Korea is probably easy. Taking out N Korea without causing the deaths of millions of people and maybe starting WWIII is a bit more difficult.

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Sep 20, 2017 17:40:34   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
SharpShooter wrote:
I've never lied to you....., what an i***t!!!
SEE?!?!
SS

You are correct, only when your fingers are on the keyboard, but since what you post is opinion, I guess that can't be a lie anymore than Grimm's fairy tales are lies.

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Sep 20, 2017 17:40:44   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
phcaan wrote:
He only lost respect with the left leaning socialists still sulking because their e******n fix for the wicked witch of the east didn't work out.


So that's where the blame is to be placed for his wonderful relationship with Congress? Interesting...

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Sep 20, 2017 17:41:49   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
phcaan wrote:
He only lost respect with the left leaning socialists still sulking because their e******n fix for the wicked witch of the east didn't work out.


If you were really as simple as you pretend someone would have to feed you.

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