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Sep 16, 2017 06:42:41   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Rab-Eye wrote:
Friends, I might have some dust on the sensor of my D500. I've done some research, and I now have three questions:

1. While all videos and articles I've seen agree that your check for dust on your sensor at the smallest possible aperture, some say your camera should be focused, and others stress that it should be out of focus. I am interested in the opinions of those experienced in this matter.

2. When photographing something white to check for sensor dust, does using a flash affect the process? Or more simply put, should I or should I not use flash when I check?

3. I am a little spooked by the fact that there is so much written and recorded about how careful you have to be if you clean your own sensor. On the other hand, my local store gets $70 to clean the sensor. Is that a reasonable price? Is it such a risky job that I would be foolish to try it on my own?

Thanks so much!
Friends, I might have some dust on the sensor of m... (show quote)


Your initial statement says it all. You "might have" dust on the sensor. All sensors have dust the minute you take the body cap off.

If you are having a hard time seeing it your images, then it is not severe enough to worry about. When you can clearly see junk in your images, it's time to get it cleaned. If have to go through the effort of using a loupe, or take out of focus shots of blank images at F16 to see dust, but if you take a shot of a landscape with sky and you don't see dust, then the dust is not an issue.

You can buy a kit that involves a bulb blower, and several solutions that can remove dust dirt and oily smudges. Sensor Swabs and Visible Dust both make effective cleaning systems.

Random crap that can not be blown off or removed with a charged device like the Arctic Butterfly, can often be removed with a Sensor Gel Stick - but that involves a soft touch, since the tackiness that pulls crud off the sensor can also be strong enough to pull off the protective cover on the sensor.

Some dirt gets "cemented" onto the surface by humidity and can only be removed with the correct solution, and sometimes, even the correct solution will not result in a clean sensor, and could make matters worse. I routinely clean my sensors, but one time I did get smearing that I could not remove, which resulted in the camera going to Nikon for a proper cleaning. You may want to read this to decide if DIY is for you.

https://www.outdoorphotographer.com/the-best-sensor-cleaning-option-i-have-ever-seen/

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Sep 16, 2017 08:06:02   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
catalint wrote:
Hi Rab-Eye
Whenever I want to check for dust , I do like tinplater sugested. I can easy see those spots , and often before I go 1:1
Having in mind in Oslo they charge just over 100$ to clean my sensor, I started doing my self, but not before I read and seem how people do it. I think I payed around 20$ for swap cleaning kit, both wet and dry, eclipse, blower etc, and used 3-4 times by now. Not on the same body. And still have for a couple more cleanings. I was very afraid to do it the first time, and I try to be very careful when doing it.

C.

PS: I always try the blower first. If that doesn't help , then the swap is the tool.
Hi Rab-Eye br Whenever I want to check for dust , ... (show quote)


Thank you, Catalint.

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Sep 16, 2017 08:07:06   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
Robert Bailey wrote:
I bought a lighted loupe for checking the sensor (less than $40).
I check the sensor every time I go out shooting.
I've discovered that about 50% of the time it needs to be cleaned.
I use micro-fibre (Canadian spelling) swabs to do this (about $2 each).
I have sensor cleaning liquid, but in over a year have not yet had to use it.


Thank you, Robert.

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Sep 16, 2017 08:07:48   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
jerryc41 wrote:
My preferred method of looking for sensor dust is with a sensor loupe. I can examine the sensor and see if there is any dust on it. This is especially useful after an initial cleaning. I'll make a pass with the wiper and then check for spots. Usually, I remove some and deposit others, so it can take a few passes. This one works fine.
https://smile.amazon.com/Carson-Camera-Sensor-Magnifier-SM-44/dp/B0091SS310/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1505557307&sr=8-6&keywords=sensor+loupe

As for damaging the sensor, of course that's possible, but you'd have to be really careless. Actually, the sensor has a protective covering over it. I'm not sure if that applies to all cameras, though.
My preferred method of looking for sensor dust is ... (show quote)


Thank you, Jerry.

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Sep 16, 2017 08:08:13   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
rayr wrote:
I have the best luck seeing dust spots by pointing the camera at a clear blue sky and using a small aperture.


Thank you, Ray.

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Sep 16, 2017 08:09:21   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
Gene51 wrote:
Your initial statement says it all. You "might have" dust on the sensor. All sensors have dust the minute you take the body cap off.

If you are having a hard time seeing it your images, then it is not severe enough to worry about. When you can clearly see junk in your images, it's time to get it cleaned. If have to go through the effort of using a loupe, or take out of focus shots of blank images at F16 to see dust, but if you take a shot of a landscape with sky and you don't see dust, then the dust is not an issue.

You can buy a kit that involves a bulb blower, and several solutions that can remove dust dirt and oily smudges. Sensor Swabs and Visible Dust both make effective cleaning systems.

Random crap that can not be blown off or removed with a charged device like the Arctic Butterfly, can often be removed with a Sensor Gel Stick - but that involves a soft touch, since the tackiness that pulls crud off the sensor can also be strong enough to pull off the protective cover on the sensor.

Some dirt gets "cemented" onto the surface by humidity and can only be removed with the correct solution, and sometimes, even the correct solution will not result in a clean sensor, and could make matters worse. I routinely clean my sensors, but one time I did get smearing that I could not remove, which resulted in the camera going to Nikon for a proper cleaning. You may want to read this to decide if DIY is for you.

https://www.outdoorphotographer.com/the-best-sensor-cleaning-option-i-have-ever-seen/
Your initial statement says it all. You "migh... (show quote)


Thank you, Gene.

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Sep 16, 2017 09:29:34   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
Rab-Eye wrote:
It sounds like you're saying to shoot the white surface without a lens on the body. Am I understanding you correctly?


That's the ultimate defocusing.

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Sep 16, 2017 09:47:29   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Ben, I'd suggest using a Sensor Scope. Remove the lens, click the shutter release with the camera set to lock the mirror up for cleaning, and place the Sensor Scope in place of the lens. Switch on the illumination and you'll see the spots on your sensor. Coupled with the careful use of their cleaning kit and you can clean your sensor.
--Bob
Rab-Eye wrote:
Friends, I might have some dust on the sensor of my D500. I've done some research, and I now have three questions:

1. While all videos and articles I've seen agree that your check for dust on your sensor at the smallest possible aperture, some say your camera should be focused, and others stress that it should be out of focus. I am interested in the opinions of those experienced in this matter.

2. When photographing something white to check for sensor dust, does using a flash affect the process? Or more simply put, should I or should I not use flash when I check?

3. I am a little spooked by the fact that there is so much written and recorded about how careful you have to be if you clean your own sensor. On the other hand, my local store gets $70 to clean the sensor. Is that a reasonable price? Is it such a risky job that I would be foolish to try it on my own?

Thanks so much!
Friends, I might have some dust on the sensor of m... (show quote)

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Sep 16, 2017 10:07:02   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
A pro in our camera club cleaned ours for free he used a loupe to view the sensor and then cleaned it with one of the commercial kits, basically a few blasts of air from a hand bulb blower and a couple of wipes with special brushes. A fellow member got one of the kits and successfully cleaned his two cameras. Said it was pretty straight forward. I suspect you could just assume dust on the sensor for any camera that has interchangeable lenses. Static alone would do that. I've never seen anything in my photos that looks like an issue with dust.

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Sep 16, 2017 11:23:08   #
charles tabb Loc: Richmond VA.
 
rayr wrote:
I have the best luck seeing dust spots by pointing the camera at a clear blue sky and using a small aperture.


I read all the way down the page, and finally you brought up SKY.
Easiest way to check a sensor.

The Sensor KLEAR Loupe has always worked for me.

I remember the first time I had specks on my sensor, I paid $65.00 for a cleaning and also had to travel 100 miles round trip to get it cleaned.
I had to leave the camera for 2 hours then pick it up and drive back home.
That camera store was a moneymaker.

Time got me smarter.

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Sep 16, 2017 11:32:39   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
That might be the Anti Aliasing filter you are referring to.

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Sep 16, 2017 12:00:49   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
I've never had noticeable dust on the sensor of my DSLR, and only once on the sensor of my MILC. I have both set up to clean itself every time I turn it on.

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Sep 16, 2017 12:08:42   #
charles tabb Loc: Richmond VA.
 
rehess wrote:
I've never had noticeable dust on the sensor of my DSLR, and only once on the sensor of my MILC. I have both set up to clean itself every time I turn it on.


I think you will find that the "clean itself" you are speaking of is when the camera shakes the sensor to remove dust.
That doesn't always work.
It may be that you don't remove your lens very often, if any.
One who has a number of different lenses removes the lens rather often.
Also to add, particles can stick that the sensor shaking can't remove will have to be manually removed in some way.

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Sep 16, 2017 12:54:14   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
It seems to me that the key to being able to clean your own sensor is the ability to inspect the sensor, before and after. A good magnifier/light is key to the inspection.

So if it were me, I would start by obtaining the inspection tool first, before doing anything else.

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Sep 16, 2017 13:03:26   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
rmalarz wrote:
Ben, I'd suggest using a Sensor Scope. Remove the lens, click the shutter release with the camera set to lock the mirror up for cleaning, and place the Sensor Scope in place of the lens. Switch on the illumination and you'll see the spots on your sensor. Coupled with the careful use of their cleaning kit and you can clean your sensor.
--Bob


Great suggestion, Bob. Thank you.

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