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Aug 27, 2017 10:01:34   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
SteveR wrote:
Don't denigrate p/p so quickly. The simple acts of cropping, straightening or brightening do not markedly affect the true nature of a photograph, but are, indeed, post processing, yet I don't believe that they affect "reality." Did you shoot in film days and have your photos developed? Ever see the numbers on the back of a photo? Those were the post processing changes done prior to printing.


The DRGB settings on the back of photo were the printer lamphouse settings. They were determined with some sort of color negative analyzer, densitometer, or other measuring device. They were unique to the conditions in that lab at that moment with that negative. Reprints made at a later date with those same settings seldom matched the first print, but would be close. So the re-analysis for a reprint would start there.

Those numbers roughly correspond with Exposure and White Balance settings in post-processing software. All else was determined with film manufacture, exposure, lighting, film processing, and paper choice.

We have several orders of magnitude more capability in modern software than we ever did with our tools of the film era!

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Aug 27, 2017 10:13:07   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
foathog wrote:
what would Ansel Adams think????


Ansel most likely would embrace anything or any device that would get him the image he wanted. People have a misperception of his ideas regarding photography; so called "straight" photography was not about doing nothing to a photo once taken, it was simply a way to rail against the "fuzzy wuzzy" photographs of the day in the 1920s and 30s when most photographers were into taking photographs in the Pictorial style (very unfocused). Ansel was a technical genius and did whatever it took to get the print the way he wanted it done right up until he died.

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Aug 27, 2017 10:52:47   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
It seems to me that it does everything for you. It takes the "you" out of it.




billnikon wrote:
Given his amount of print manipulation in the dark room he would probably embrace it.

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Aug 27, 2017 11:26:50   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
Gpa-15 wrote:
Hi UHH Gang...
First: I prefer to 'realistically' CAPTURE a given portrait and or action; I do NOT wish to 'CREATE' my 'concept of reality', using post processing.
Second: I recently saw a product which I looked up on Google it was a device (then in kick starter), called: 'Arsenal'.
Third: Here are the results of my search:
Google-Search: (Best price for DSLR-Camera HDR-Device: Arsenal)
LINK:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=best%20price%20for%20DSLR-Camera%20HDR-Device%3A%20Arsenal>
Shared via the Google app>
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Please be sure to FIRST view the video with in the above LINK. -- Then tell me if you believe it would work and improve the IQ, with a camera such as the Cannon SX60HS or the Nikon-P900.
Hi UHH Gang... br First: I prefer to 'realisti... (show quote)


Each to his own. My interest in photography is in the challenge of properly (for me) interpreting a given situation and producing my interpretation of that situation/view/event.

I want to be involved with my images. I want them to say something. All this automation does little in that regard, but as I said at the beginning "To each his own".

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Aug 27, 2017 11:50:29   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
foathog wrote:
seems to me that it won't work hand held. looks like it requires a tripod shot. am I wrong??


No, does not need a tripod. But certain thinks you may want to do may require a tripod.

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Aug 27, 2017 12:59:07   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
lurker wrote:
I've already advanced way beyond this technology by simply searching google images and downloading 'realistic' pictures that I like. That way, I save the money I would have spent on a camera and the time it would have taken to learn how to use it. Plus, I can stay home eating Cheetos and watching Wheel of Fortune rather than have to move around or, worse yet, go outside to take photographs.


That's brilliant. Do you catch "The Price is Right"?

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Aug 27, 2017 12:59:31   #
David in Dallas Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA
 
JimH123 wrote:
No, does not need a tripod. But certain thinks you may want to do may require a tripod.
Focus stacking, time lapse, and HDR would require a tripod, yes?

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Aug 27, 2017 13:42:54   #
jm76237
 
Don't understand it : pledge $125 "be on of the first to get it save 50% off retail"

pledge $150 "be on of the first to get it save 40% off retail"

pledge $175 "be on of the first to get it save 30% off retail"

How's their math work?

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Aug 27, 2017 14:53:56   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
jm76237 wrote:
Don't understand it : pledge $125 "be on of the first to get it save 50% off retail"

pledge $150 "be on of the first to get it save 40% off retail"

pledge $175 "be on of the first to get it save 30% off retail"

How's their math work?


If $250.00 is the retail, then the math is spot on.
Marion

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Aug 27, 2017 15:08:27   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Another one who wants to remove the photographer from the art of photography.
--Bob
Gpa-15 wrote:
Hi UHH Gang...
First: I prefer to 'realistically' CAPTURE a given portrait and or action; I do NOT wish to 'CREATE' my 'concept of reality', using post processing.
Second: I recently saw a product which I looked up on Google it was a device (then in kick starter), called: 'Arsenal'.
Third: Here are the results of my search:
Google-Search: (Best price for DSLR-Camera HDR-Device: Arsenal)
LINK:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=best%20price%20for%20DSLR-Camera%20HDR-Device%3A%20Arsenal>
Shared via the Google app>
=========
Please be sure to FIRST view the video with in the above LINK. -- Then tell me if you believe it would work and improve the IQ, with a camera such as the Cannon SX60HS or the Nikon-P900.
Hi UHH Gang... br First: I prefer to 'realisti... (show quote)

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Aug 27, 2017 15:51:23   #
lwerthe1mer Loc: Birmingham, Alabama
 
krl48 wrote:
https://witharsenal.com/supported#supported


My a7ii is "fully supported," but where do I put the attachment? It's supposed to fit into the hotshot, and the a7ii doesn't have one.

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Aug 27, 2017 16:23:46   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
lwerthe1mer wrote:
My a7ii is "fully supported," but where do I put the attachment? It's supposed to fit into the hotshot, and the a7ii doesn't have one.


It doesn't matter where it is. You can attach it to the camera strap. All that matters is that the USB cable is attached.

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Aug 27, 2017 18:09:04   #
Rick Loomis
 
Ansel Adams was the greatest manipulator of images that we know of. So much for reality.
Rick Loomis

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Aug 27, 2017 18:54:36   #
jcboy3
 
Gpa-15 wrote:
Hi UHH Gang...
First: I prefer to 'realistically' CAPTURE a given portrait and or action; I do NOT wish to 'CREATE' my 'concept of reality', using post processing.
Second: I recently saw a product which I looked up on Google it was a device (then in kick starter), called: 'Arsenal'.
Third: Here are the results of my search:
Google-Search: (Best price for DSLR-Camera HDR-Device: Arsenal)
LINK:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=best%20price%20for%20DSLR-Camera%20HDR-Device%3A%20Arsenal>
Shared via the Google app>
=========
Please be sure to FIRST view the video with in the above LINK. -- Then tell me if you believe it would work and improve the IQ, with a camera such as the Cannon SX60HS or the Nikon-P900.
Hi UHH Gang... br First: I prefer to 'realisti... (show quote)


First: Good for you. Bad for your pics.
Second: While you are at it, be sure to pick up some lottery tickets.
Third: HDR IS post processing.

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Aug 31, 2017 08:11:13   #
al13
 
Before flip phones, iPhones and the rest, I knew a massive amount of phone numbers. Now, only a few as I can ask Siri. I am new to photography with only two years experience. I personally don't want to depend on a device that will eventually dumb me down. I'm working too hard to learn the many intricacies in photography to let a device take over.

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