hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts

Not at all and far from it. I've been to California once for about a week a few years back. Drove from Donner Pass in the north to San Diego in the South and kind of zig zagged from the coast to the mountains the whole way. I got to see quite a bit of California in a fairly short time. It's criminal growing this stuff illegally. It's sinful that they are using national and state forests to do so. And it's horrifying that they leave this sort of damage behind.

And while I appreciate that some (here even) use this in place of pharmaceuticals, for most this is a recreational drug. I find it ironic that the stereotypical "save the planet" types that use pot are in effect causing this kind of damage. Yes, I do.

I wonder if this is linked to the large numbers of i******s in Cali? So Feinstein isn't worried who will pick her veggies, she's worried who will harvest her chronic?

user47602 Loc: ip 304.0.0.33.32

where in the constitution does it give the feds the right to outlaw weed?

terry44 Loc: Tuolumne County California, Maui Hawaii

Heck when they wrote the constitution they did it on hemp papoer. George Washington cultivated it.

terry44 Loc: Tuolumne County California, Maui Hawaii

Like I said educate yourself before posting this kind of crap, bet you v**ed for trump just because he said make america great you can say and v**e for who you wish but at least check many sources instead of one slanted story. The only reason that recreational was not v**ed in here in Arizona is due to the law enforcement system mostly the private prison system who dumped massive dollars into the campaign against it.for Gods sake you keep bringing up i*****l a***ns did you know there are far more i******s in the upper midwest and northeast they travel there for picking season something almost any citizen of the US will not do they feel it is below them those folks who pick are some of the nicest folk I have ever met not like the illegal Canadians who come across and take our good jobs because they to feel above menial labor, I know at least 7 Canadians who did this and still live here not harassed if you are going to state illeagles please add in everyone you want a wall on the south then put a wall up in the north and isolate us more than trumpy has already done. Do not be a bigot that's just plain wrong.

hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts

Educate yourself....


So are you saying.....

a) there are not illegal pot farms in California?
b) there are not illegal pot farms on state and federal lands?
c) there are not toxic leftovers from illegal pot farms?

What exactly are YOU accusing me of?

And I don't normally do the spelling police thing but its "i******s". That refers to all folks who are non-citizens and have no right to be here. "Illeagles" would be sick birds which obviously doesn't have much to do about this thread.

terry44 Loc: Tuolumne County California, Maui Hawaii

who cares about the spelling typo's, not me it makes me sick how the proper english n**is thrive on others ability to see all the typos on a photography site as is this sort of discussion even though its in the attic, I have been trying not to get sucked in to all this political nonsense that happens on here but your post just called my name. and I am telling you that you need to check many more than one source before posting as yes it has been proven both the forestry and Dea are lying to try and influence people like you who take every word that comes out of their mouths as real fact, there are always some ileal operations and some have used toxic pest control did you not do the same on your gardens and roses to get rid of pests before they yanked them off the shelves a few years ago now roundup is as bad as many of us thought. I stated earlier from experience mind you that when found illegal operations are and have been getting shut down (at least in California)not as much by law enforcement as by the growers whose livelihood relies on clean and pesticide free product. To post such a badly put together article which by the way is years old just revitalized to create more fear. Talk with Washington, Colorado, here in Arizona, Oregon, and the other states who have legalized and you will hear the same from all of them crime has went down, and they are pulling out of the financial hole through taxation just as alcohol does and it is so much worse crime is up from alcohol as well as addiction and death. By the way I and those I know do not touch the pot coming across the border as Tuolumne county, Humboldt, and Mendocino pot is so much better and quality controlled.

terry44 Loc: Tuolumne County California, Maui Hawaii

By the way why are you and others on a photography website if all you want to do is argue politics, and things such as this there are many other sites you fit intoo better

hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts

Why are you in the Attic if you don't? Something brought you in here and it wasn't pictures.

This website has many areas to explore and express yourself.

hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts

Same or similar article from Reuters.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-marijuana-environment-idUSKBN1AM0C3

Newsweek is carrying the same article. ForestBusinessNetwork (never heard of them), CNBC, ABC, et al

Tell you what. Why don't you go find some articles that say it's all hogwash? Because honestly, calling BS for something that upsets your feelings isn't proof of much.

You say that they (DEA, LEO's, etc.) have been caught lying about this 6-7 day old article? I'm a reasonable person. Show me the proof.

terry44 Loc: Tuolumne County California, Maui Hawaii

I saw the link and got sucked in, I really wish that this bashing and calling names would stop photography is a passion in and of itself, I have posted links(photography related) which I did not follow up on until later and felt bad that I did not do my research first and that really was my point sorry we've kept this going far to long have a good day and try not to let yourself get worked up I will be doing the same.

terry44 Loc: Tuolumne County California, Maui Hawaii

I will look later and pm them to you we can be polite to each other I am sorry if I have been gruff

nakkh Loc: San Mateo, Ca

"i******s in Cali?"

Mexican grow operations in Mendocino have been making an absolute mess.


Yes

hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts

Well I've heard that rumor somewhere about many i******s in Cali.....or it could have been Foxnews. I think all the other stations call them something crazy like undocumented workers or some such baloney.

BigBear Loc: Northern CT

It doesn't.