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Jul 13, 2017 10:42:57   #
JPL
 
Brucej67 wrote:
You may be right, but I hate to have to spend another $30,000 on new lenses and at my age I will probably stick to the DSLR.


Do not worry, if Nikon is planing to beat Sony you will be able to use all your current Nikon glass on your mirrorless Nikon camera. If they do not allow that then they are doomed to fail in the mirrorless world.

I do not think that Nikon is planing to close the bakery anytime soon so I am sure they will either include a simple adapter to allow current Nikon users to use the old glass with the mirrorless cameras or sell it for $99 or less. But they will probably present a new mount or a modified F mount on their upcoming mirrorless cameras.

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Jul 13, 2017 10:59:51   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
My Nikon mirrorless dream would be Mirrorless body, brilliant OLED viewfinder, dual XD slots, same excellent low light performance as D810. And I don't give a shit about WiFi and GPS.

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Jul 13, 2017 11:57:09   #
Erik_H Loc: Denham Springs, Louisiana
 
JPL wrote:
Do not worry, if Nikon is planing to beat Sony you will be able to use all your current Nikon glass on your mirrorless Nikon camera. If they do not allow that then they are doomed to fail in the mirrorless world.

I do not think that Nikon is planing to close the bakery anytime soon so I am sure they will either include a simple adapter to allow current Nikon users to use the old glass with the mirrorless cameras or sell it for $99 or less. But they will probably present a new mount or a modified F mount on their upcoming mirrorless cameras.
Do not worry, if Nikon is planing to beat Sony you... (show quote)

Nikon doesn't sell anything for $99 or less.

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Jul 13, 2017 12:12:40   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Pentax users are going through exactly the same discussion. Both Pentax and Nikon get a lot of their self-esteem from the past {"we can use a bunch of old lenses"} and users are reluctant to leave that behind. Canon has shown a way forward, with the EF-M to EF adapter, but no one seems to think that Pentax {or Nikon} can sell the same concept.

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Jul 13, 2017 13:12:48   #
traveler90712 Loc: Lake Worth, Fl.
 
BebuLamar wrote:
My guess that they would introduce new lens line but make adapter so you can use your Nikon F mount lenses. I don't think they will keep the Nikon F mount on the new camera. It's a chance for Nikon to get back on making lenses.


If they don't that (making an adaptor or making the camera that will allow me to use "F" mount lens), they will not see me jumping to Mirrorless.

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Jul 13, 2017 13:39:00   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Haydon wrote:
I can't resist Bill...I'm going to use your line. Why do you post this old news! There's no point in it :)

You are correct BUT, this is just announced as of today, is that old, it may be, if it is, I have fallen into my own trap once again.

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Jul 13, 2017 14:09:09   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
traveler90712 wrote:
If they don't that (making an adaptor or making the camera that will allow me to use "F" mount lens), they will not see me jumping to Mirrorless.


I don't see how an adapter would be welcome with long time users since to make current glass work with a thinner body (shorter lens to sensor distance) an adapter would need to introduce additional glass into the picture (no pun intended). That alone would turn me off.


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Jul 13, 2017 14:15:08   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Yes, it's been in the news lately, but it will be tough for Nikon to knock Sony and Fuji off the top of that mirrorless mountain.

There's always room for another point and shoot.

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Jul 13, 2017 14:33:52   #
ecurb1105
 
BebuLamar wrote:
But that's wasted space which makes the camera larger. Also short flange distance helps making better wide angle. Nikon F mount lenses have a lot of incompatible features so to make a cameras that is compatible with most of the Nikon F mount lenses would require too much mechanical couplings which decreases precision and makes the system slower.


But if Nikon made a full frame body similar to the A9 and included an adapter similar to an auto extension tube that allowed the seamless use of F mount lenses as well as a new line of lenses designed for the shorter flange distance, I'd borrow to buy it!

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Jul 13, 2017 14:40:52   #
ecurb1105
 
Rich1939 wrote:
I don't see how an adapter would be welcome with long time users since to make current glass work with a thinner body (shorter lens to sensor distance) an adapter would need to introduce additional glass into the picture (no pun intended). That alone would turn me off.



No glass needed, just a spacer to make up for the missing mirror box. Nikon already makes auto extension tubes so the adapter is a piece of cake! FX sensor is a must, however.

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Jul 13, 2017 14:47:19   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Leitz wrote:
There's always room for another point and shoot.

I am guessing this would be directed at the same market the Canon M5 is, the part of the "enthusiast" market currently occupied by cameras such as the Panasonic GX8 and the Sony A6300.

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-eos-m5-review

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Jul 13, 2017 15:02:29   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
ecurb1105 wrote:
No glass needed, just a spacer to make up for the missing mirror box. Nikon already makes auto extension tubes so the adapter is a piece of cake! FX sensor is a must, however.


I disagree. Current lenses are designed to project an image that will correctly cover (and be in focus) a 24x36 sensor. If the new slimmer body does not give the proper distance because it is designed to work with new glass then just spacing an old lens properly will not utilize the 'entire cone'.

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Jul 13, 2017 15:20:08   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
Rich1939 wrote:
I disagree. Current lenses are designed to project an image that will correctly cover (and be in focus) a 24x36 sensor. If the new slimmer body does not give the proper distance because it is designed to work with new glass then just spacing an old lens properly will not utilize the 'entire cone'.

As ecurb1105 accurately explained, no glass would be needed for a Nikon F lens to focus at infinity on a mirrorless camera, just a simple spacer.

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Jul 13, 2017 15:27:20   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
Leitz wrote:
As ecurb1105 accurately explained, no glass would be needed for a Nikon F lens to focus at infinity on a mirrorless camera, just a simple spacer.


Reality is seldom as simple as conception. I'll leave speculating for now and see what Nikon comes up with.

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Jul 13, 2017 15:38:22   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Rich1939 wrote:
I disagree. Current lenses are designed to project an image that will correctly cover (and be in focus) a 24x36 sensor. If the new slimmer body does not give the proper distance because it is designed to work with new glass then just spacing an old lens properly will not utilize the 'entire cone'.
Rich1939 wrote:
Reality is seldom as simple as conception. I'll leave speculating for now and see what Nikon comes up with.

There are thousands, maybe millions, of us using that concept regularly. As long as they leave enough diameter for the cone, what makes you think it won't work here?? Canon has been doing this for several years now - what makes you think Nikon can't pull it off???

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