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Jun 18, 2012 08:40:41   #
Lionsgate Loc: Sierra Vista, Arizona
 
Nice comparison.

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Jun 18, 2012 10:30:08   #
CAM1017 Loc: Chiloquin, Oregon
 
Smokenmirrorss wrote:
When I shoot under a green tree canopy or in a location I will get a green reflection on the subject, I sometimes also want the blue sky to pop, so I will load a CPL filter over an FLD filter. Is there a preference for which should go on top? Are there pitfalls to stacking filters?

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Have you tried leaving all the filters off and making your corrections in Post processing?

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Jun 18, 2012 10:32:57   #
GC likes NIKON Loc: East Greenwich, Rhode Island
 
Smokenmirrorss wrote:
St3v3M wrote:
FLD filters provide correct color, removing harsh green cast caused by fluorescent bulbs. You're outside right?


Yes. I tried the filter for the spectrum effect on green and it worked. Here's a comparison:


Hey Smoke, I actually like the greenish one better. Is this a good candidate for HDR to get some detail in the bells ???

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Jun 18, 2012 12:32:54   #
Nevada Chuck
 
Smokenmirrorss wrote:
When I shoot under a green tree canopy or in a location I will get a green reflection on the subject, I sometimes also want the blue sky to pop, so I will load a CPL filter over an FLD filter. Is there a preference for which should go on top? Are there pitfalls to stacking filters?

Thanks


As a general rule, stacking filters should be avoided like the plague. The more glass you put in the light path, the more potential for various lens defects. I know some photographers (myself included) who keep a UV or Skylight filter on their lenses for physical protection, but remove it just before taking the shot. This may at times give a slight tinge to the overall color, but that's part of what shooting in RAW is all about.

In your situation as described above, I would go with the CPL, do away with any other filters, shoot in RAW and make any required color corrections in post.

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Jun 18, 2012 12:36:56   #
Smokenmirrorss Loc: WV
 
twowindsbear wrote:
Smokenmirrorss wrote:
renomike wrote:
I don't know about stacking order, but you will get degrading of the sharpness of the lens, by adding filter on top of one another. Usually not recommended.

Mike


I wondered. I will have to try each on its own in different environs and test for effect. Why do you suppose they have two sided threads, anyway?


Two sided threads - to allow attaching a lens hood, or a lens cap.


Ah, my hood goes on the outside of the main lense.

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Jun 18, 2012 12:39:24   #
Smokenmirrorss Loc: WV
 
CAM1017 wrote:
Smokenmirrorss wrote:
When I shoot under a green tree canopy or in a location I will get a green reflection on the subject, I sometimes also want the blue sky to pop, so I will load a CPL filter over an FLD filter. Is there a preference for which should go on top? Are there pitfalls to stacking filters?

Thanks


Have you tried leaving all the filters off and making your corrections in Post processing?


Yea, I was shooting portraits under a green canopy. I could get the green out, but the skin wash effect was terrible. I ended up doing selective filtering and I even had to work with layers on some of them. I was looking for an easier post production and that's why I got the filter. I'm going to try the pre-post white balance bracketing on the same shot and see if it has an effect.

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Jun 18, 2012 12:47:43   #
Smokenmirrorss Loc: WV
 
GC likes NIKON wrote:
Smokenmirrorss wrote:
St3v3M wrote:
FLD filters provide correct color, removing harsh green cast caused by fluorescent bulbs. You're outside right?


Yes. I tried the filter for the spectrum effect on green and it worked. Here's a comparison:


Hey Smoke, I actually like the greenish one better. Is this a good candidate for HDR to get some detail in the bells ???


I kinda like the green one better as well. The green-skinned prom pictures, not so much! I'll try the HDR this evening and see what happens. I will be interested to see what I can do with the reflections in the marbles, too.

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Jun 18, 2012 13:52:07   #
mcveed Loc: Kelowna, British Columbia (between trips)
 
You can drop the FLD filter by doing a custom white balance for shots under trees. That will also get rid of the blue cast from shooting in open shade.

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Jun 18, 2012 16:42:37   #
twowindsbear
 
Smokenmirrorss wrote:
twowindsbear wrote:
Smokenmirrorss wrote:
renomike wrote:
I don't know about stacking order, but you will get degrading of the sharpness of the lens, by adding filter on top of one another. Usually not recommended.

Mike


I wondered. I will have to try each on its own in different environs and test for effect. Why do you suppose they have two sided threads, anyway?


Two sided threads - to allow attaching a lens hood, or a lens cap.


Ah, my hood goes on the outside of the main lense.
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Now, I'm really confused! If you put your lens hood on the outside of the main lens - where do you put the filter(s)?

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Jun 18, 2012 17:22:30   #
Smokenmirrorss Loc: WV
 
twowindsbear wrote:
Smokenmirrorss wrote:
twowindsbear wrote:
Smokenmirrorss wrote:
renomike wrote:
I don't know about stacking order, but you will get degrading of the sharpness of the lens, by adding filter on top of one another. Usually not recommended.

Mike


I wondered. I will have to try each on its own in different environs and test for effect. Why do you suppose they have two sided threads, anyway?


Two sided threads - to allow attaching a lens hood, or a lens cap.


Ah, my hood goes on the outside of the main lense.
quote=twowindsbear quote=Smokenmirrorss quote=r... (show quote)


Now, I'm really confused! If you put your lens hood on the outside of the main lens - where do you put the filter(s)?
quote=Smokenmirrorss quote=twowindsbear quote=S... (show quote)


Filter threads inside the main lens - it is a Canon. The female threads are on the inside lip of the main lens - filter. Male threads on the outside of the main lens for the daisy/shadow hood.

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Jun 18, 2012 17:23:12   #
mcveed Loc: Kelowna, British Columbia (between trips)
 
You screw them into the threads on the end of the lens. Take a look at the lens. It should be obvious. If you are stacking filters it doesn't matter what order they go on.

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Jun 18, 2012 17:23:17   #
Smokenmirrorss Loc: WV
 
mcveed wrote:
You can drop the FLD filter by doing a custom white balance for shots under trees. That will also get rid of the blue cast from shooting in open shade.


I am going to try bracketing to see if that helps. Is there an WB cutom other than the Kelvin setting? If so, I need to read up.

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Jun 18, 2012 21:36:54   #
Smokenmirrorss Loc: WV
 
mcveed wrote:
You can drop the FLD filter by doing a custom white balance for shots under trees. That will also get rid of the blue cast from shooting in open shade.


That was the trick. I was shooting with the Landscape setting in the background. It must have a pre-determined white setting. Once I set the white correctly (or close with a white lense box as reference), it was much better. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I am out to buy an 18% grey sheet tomorrow. I really appreciate your willingness to teach a novice. The other effects were sharpness and contrast - with them, you can correct the color, but not the picture.

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Jun 18, 2012 21:59:01   #
Smokenmirrorss Loc: WV
 
GC likes NIKON wrote:
Smokenmirrorss wrote:
St3v3M wrote:
FLD filters provide correct color, removing harsh green cast caused by fluorescent bulbs. You're outside right?


Yes. I tried the filter for the spectrum effect on green and it worked. Here's a comparison:


Hey Smoke, I actually like the greenish one better. Is this a good candidate for HDR to get some detail in the bells ???


Didn't get to the HDR this evening- Racoons posing for the camera. I will try it tomorrow!

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Jun 18, 2012 22:02:49   #
Smokenmirrorss Loc: WV
 
Lionsgate wrote:
When using ND filters its always a good idea to bracket your exposures. I often taken a normal, plus 3 over and 3 under exposures. I usually get a really great single exposure but I always get a great HDR photo.


I could see a difference in clarity on several of the shots. It adds a little clear 'punch' to the shot. I'll add a +/-2 to 3 for a while and see what my eye likes best. Thank you for the tip.

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