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Jun 3, 2017 09:00:11   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
FlyingTiger wrote:
Fact: The Paris Accord was non-binding, voluntary and unenforceable.


This is true, which makes our pull out meaningless except as red meat for the 36% who currently support him.

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Jun 3, 2017 09:02:43   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
wilpharm wrote:
many do!!!!!!


Many? Not so many.

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Jun 3, 2017 09:13:56   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
boberic wrote:
For all those people who are in favor of the Paris Accords--Can you please tell me- What is so terrific about the tenets of the agreement?

"Jane Lubchenco, marine ecologist at Oregon State University in Corvallis and former administrator of the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration:

Where to start? President Trump’s decision to withdraw from the Paris Agreement shows a blatant disregard for the wishes of most Americans and business leaders, an irresponsible and callous dismissal of the health, safety and economic well-being of Americans, a moral emptiness in ignoring impacts to the poorest people in the US and around the world, and gross ignorance about overwhelming scientific evidence. Far from “protecting America” as the president stated, withdrawing from Paris will make America more vulnerable and diminish its world leadership. It is terrifying that the individual who should be leading the rest of the world is so arrogant and irresponsible."

"Our collective future and that of much of the rest of life on Earth depends in part on confronting c*****e c****e and ocean acidification. Doing so requires global collective action. It’s hard to imagine anyone consciously choosing to leave a legacy of impoverishment, economic disruption, increasingly bizarre weather, health impacts ranging from heat strokes to spread of diseases, rising sea levels and flooding — but that is just what the president has done. Moreover, the new path and the president’s proposed budget would forego significant economic opportunities."

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Jun 3, 2017 09:32:49   #
richosob Loc: Lambertville, MI
 
ken hubert wrote:
You aren't worth saving!


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That means I agree. lol

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Jun 3, 2017 09:38:26   #
ken hubert Loc: Missouri
 
thom w wrote:
I truly hope they post some of your crap on admins gravestone (when the time comes). We all post crap from time to time but you make no attempt to do anything but stir up crap. You make no attempt to contribute anything positive.


I have yet to meet the Libtard that deserves anything else but crap. Especially you!

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Jun 3, 2017 09:52:08   #
dragonfist Loc: Stafford, N.Y.
 
ken hubert wrote:
If you actually believe that garbage, I have a bridge to sell you. Wish I had the time to school you
Do yourself a favor and look at that agreement
It favors China, India and Russia at our expense. DON'T bother to reply until you have read it.


Have you read it and if so please educate those of us that have not as to why it favors the countries you cited. I am interested in how you formed your opinions, and on what basis and drawing from what facts.

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Jun 3, 2017 10:06:44   #
FrumCA
 
Twardlow wrote:
How about fewer wildfires, less severe storm, saving Florida and other coastal cities--just compute this...how about saving life on the planer, including ours?

Wildfires and other calamities have been a part of the earth's geologic - climatic development long before man came on the scene. To try to pin g****l w*****g on human-kind as most libs do is the ultimate brainwashing job. Man's contributions to g****l w*****g/c*****e c****e, wh**ever you want to call it, is inconsequential.

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Jun 3, 2017 10:08:31   #
ken hubert Loc: Missouri
 
d**gonfist wrote:
Have you read it and if so please educate those of us that have not as to why it favors the countries you cited. I am interested in how you formed your opinions, and on what basis and drawing from what facts.


You can start with Article 9. It talks about where Developed Countries ( US ) will fund " undeveloped " countries with public funds ( taxpayers money ). Then look up the side agreements where China, India get to build coal plants for the next 20 years and are exempt from any standards for that 20 years. All the while we would be crippling our economy in favor of theirs! Now quit mouthing your Party line and do some research on your own.

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Jun 3, 2017 10:11:22   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
BigWahoo wrote:
"Jane Lubchenco, marine ecologist at Oregon State University in Corvallis and former administrator of the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration:

Where to start? President Trump’s decision to withdraw from the Paris Agreement shows a blatant disregard for the wishes of most Americans and business leaders, an irresponsible and callous dismissal of the health, safety and economic well-being of Americans, a moral emptiness in ignoring impacts to the poorest people in the US and around the world, and gross ignorance about overwhelming scientific evidence. Far from “protecting America” as the president stated, withdrawing from Paris will make America more vulnerable and diminish its world leadership. It is terrifying that the individual who should be leading the rest of the world is so arrogant and irresponsible."

"Our collective future and that of much of the rest of life on Earth depends in part on confronting c*****e c****e and ocean acidification. Doing so requires global collective action. It’s hard to imagine anyone consciously choosing to leave a legacy of impoverishment, economic disruption, increasingly bizarre weather, health impacts ranging from heat strokes to spread of diseases, rising sea levels and flooding — but that is just what the president has done. Moreover, the new path and the president’s proposed budget would forego significant economic opportunities."
"Jane Lubchenco, marine ecologist at Oregon S... (show quote)

I just read the entire text of the Paris Accord, The above response is total nonsence and has nothing wh**ever to do with reasons why Trump left the agreement. Under the Accord we would be giving much of our soverentry to the United Nations (which is of course exactly what much of the world wants). The agreement imposes no requirements to comply and imposes no penalty for non compliance' I binds no country to remain in the agreement after 3 years. It requires developed countries to pay for undeveloped countries without mentioning whatan undeveloped country actually is. Which means that India as well as China could, since much of those countries are uneveloped, declare themselves as an un developed country forcing the US to foot the bill for thier compliance. In short the Pris Accord is a completely useless document and is open to very broad interpertations as to compliance. No lawyer would advise his client to sign such a client. And if he did he would be wide open to a malpractice action. Go ahed and read the Paris Accord and see if you would come to adifferent conclusion.

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Jun 3, 2017 10:15:06   #
ken hubert Loc: Missouri
 
boberic wrote:
I just read the entire text of the Paris Accord, The above response is total nonsence and has nothing wh**ever to do with reasons why Trump left the agreement. Under the Accord we would be giving much of our soverentry to the United Nations (which is of course exactly what much of the world wants). The agreement imposes no requirements to comply and imposes no penalty for non compliance' I binds no country to remain in the agreement after 3 years. It requires developed countries to pay for undeveloped countries without mentioning whatan undeveloped country actually is. Which means that India as well as China could, since much of those countries are uneveloped, declare themselves as an un developed country forcing the US to foot the bill for thier compliance. In short the Pris Accord is a completely useless document and is open to very broad interpertations as to compliance. No lawyer would advise his client to sign such a client. And if he did he would be wide open to a malpractice action. Go ahed and read the Paris Accord and see if you would come to adifferent conclusion.
I just read the entire text of the Paris Accord, ... (show quote)


Little Perch isn't known for being a deep thinker. That's why he can only cut and paste other people's thoughts. ( And THEIR thoughts aren't very deep either, such as his last one posted as a viewpoint)

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Jun 3, 2017 10:33:53   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
boberic wrote:
I just read the entire text of the Paris Accord, The above response is total nonsence and has nothing wh**ever to do with reasons why Trump left the agreement. Under the Accord we would be giving much of our soverentry to the United Nations (which is of course exactly what much of the world wants). The agreement imposes no requirements to comply and imposes no penalty for non compliance' I binds no country to remain in the agreement after 3 years. It requires developed countries to pay for undeveloped countries without mentioning whatan undeveloped country actually is. Which means that India as well as China could, since much of those countries are uneveloped, declare themselves as an un developed country forcing the US to foot the bill for thier compliance. In short the Pris Accord is a completely useless document and is open to very broad interpertations as to compliance. No lawyer would advise his client to sign such a client. And if he did he would be wide open to a malpractice action. Go ahed and read the Paris Accord and see if you would come to adifferent conclusion.
I just read the entire text of the Paris Accord, ... (show quote)


I have read it.

I see it as a move in the right direction to control the polluting of this planet we all live on.

Science deniers will not agree because of their distrust of education and learning.


Xenophobia plays a large part in the fear the right wing has of a global agreement.

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Jun 3, 2017 10:35:25   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
user47602 wrote:
A year and a half ago, the world came together in Paris around the first-ever global agreement to set the world on a low-carbon course and protect the world we leave to our children.

It was steady, principled American leadership on the world stage that made that achievement possible. It was bold American ambition that encouraged dozens of other nations to set their sights higher as well. And what made that leadership and ambition possible was America’s private innovation and public investment in growing industries like wind and solar – industries that created some of the fastest new streams of good-paying jobs in recent years, and contributed to the longest streak of job creation in our history.

Simply put, the private sector already chose a low-carbon future. And for the nations that committed themselves to that future, the Paris Agreement opened the floodgates for businesses, scientists, and engineers to unleash high-tech, low-carbon investment and innovation on an unprecedented scale.

The nations that remain in the Paris Agreement will be the nations that reap the benefits in jobs and industries created. I believe the United States of America should be at the front of the pack. But even in the absence of American leadership; even as this Administration joins a small handful of nations that reject the future; I’m confident that our states, cities, and businesses will step up and do even more to lead the way, and help protect for future generations the one planet we’ve got.
A year and a half ago, the world came together in ... (show quote)


Show us how Trump pulling out of the Paris agreement changes anything that America is already doing to reduce carbon. My understanding is nothing was changed except America isn't bending over to pay for everything anymore. Obama was great at having America pay the world's bills. Trump isn't that magnanimous with my money. I see no difference and you probably won't either. This is simply another Liberal b***hing topic.

Dennis

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Jun 3, 2017 10:38:15   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Show us how Trump pulling out of the Paris agreement changes anything that America is already doing to reduce carbon. My understanding is nothing was changed except America isn't bending over to pay for everything anymore. Obama was great at having America pay the world's bills. Trump isn't that magnanimous with my money. I see no difference and you probably won't either. This is simply another Liberal b***hing topic.

Dennis



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Jun 3, 2017 10:45:09   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Show us how Trump pulling out of the Paris agreement changes anything that America is already doing to reduce carbon. My understanding is nothing was changed except America isn't bending over to pay for everything anymore. Obama was great at having America pay the world's bills. Trump isn't that magnanimous with my money. I see no difference and you probably won't either. This is simply another Liberal b***hing topic.

Dennis


Trump has, and promised to do more, rolled back restrictions on pollution emissions.

http://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/03/us/politics/trump-vehicle-emissions-regulation.html

http://www.t***h-out.org/news/item/40023-trump-s-environmental-shock-and-awe

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Jun 3, 2017 10:55:52   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
wilpharm wrote:
prove it, turdlo...mere expensive speculation at OUR expense


Well here is a quote, not be me, that I posted Yesterday (sorry of facts bother you)

"And now, in this millennium, we’ve watched the warning start to play out. We’ve seen 2014 set a new global temperature record, which was smashed in 2015 and smashed again in 2016. We’ve watched Arctic sea ice vanish at a record pace and measured the early disintegration of Antarctica’s great ice sheets. We’ve been able to record alarming increases in drought and flood and wildfire, and we’ve been able to link them directly to the greenhouse gases we’ve poured into the atmosphere. This is the largest-scale example in the planet’s history of the scientific method in operation, the continuing dialectic between hypothesis and skepticism that arrived eventually at a strong consensus about the most critical aspects of our planet’s maintenance. Rational people the world around understand. As Bloomberg Businessweek blazoned across its cover the week after Hurricane Sandy smashed into Wall Street, “It’s G****l W*****g, Stupid.”


And this is the man who said it:

William Ernest "Bill" McKibben (born December 8, 1960) is an American environmentalist, author, and journalist who has written extensively on the impact of g****l w*****g. He is the Schumann Distinguished Scholar at Middlebury College and leader of the anti-carbon campaign group 350.org. He has authored a dozen books about the environment, including his first, The End of Nature (1989), about c*****e c****e.

In 2009, he led 350.org's organization of 5,200 simultaneous demonstrations in 181 countries. In 2010, McKibben and 350.org conceived the 10/10/10 Global Work Party, which convened more than 7,000 events in 188 countries as he had told a large gathering at Warren Wilson College shortly before the event. In December 2010, 350.org coordinated a planet-scale art project, with many of the 20 works visible from satellites. In 2011 and 2012 he led the environmental campaign against the proposed Keystone XL pipeline project and spent three days in jail in Washington, D.C. It was one of the largest civil disobedience actions in America for decades. Two weeks later he was inducted into the literature section of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences.

He was awarded the Gandhi Peace Award in 2013. Foreign Policy magazine named him to its inaugural list of the 100 most important global thinkers in 2009 and MSN named him one of the dozen most influential men of 2009. In 2010, the Boston Globe called him "probably the nation's leading environmentalist" and Time magazine book reviewer Bryan Walsh described him as "the world's best green journalist".

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