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Apr 1, 2017 13:05:06   #
Somerset Lynn Loc: Somerset, NJ
 
joer wrote:
To some extent. RAW file might be better.

I took the liberty of doing a little pp in PS. Applied contrast, smart sharpening and shake reduction. Here is the image. Hope you don't mind.


I don't mind at all. I am pleased that you took the time. I like it. Thank you.

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Apr 1, 2017 13:20:27   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Somerset Lynn wrote:
I am posting 2 photos that I printed on metal 24x36. I want to hang them as a pair. Woodstorks is crisp, but the Sandhill Cranes is slightly out of focus. Your thoughts please Hogs. Didn't realize before printed. For future prints, can this be remedied?
Thank you,
Lynn
Always check everything before printing!

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Apr 1, 2017 15:20:05   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Digital zoom.

Low speed 1/250 for slightly over 300mm zoom. (read the EXIF)

The edit offered is simple made from PS cc.

This method does not add artifacts. I posted a thread on the method. I do not have the time to look for it at the moment (being called). I'll post more later on.

You can correct this type of problem w/o trouble.

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Apr 1, 2017 17:14:54   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
Somerset Lynn wrote:
I am posting 2 photos that I printed on metal 24x36. I want to hang them as a pair. Woodstorks is crisp, but the Sandhill Cranes is slightly out of focus. Your thoughts please Hogs. Didn't realize before printed. For future prints, can this be remedied?
Thank you,
Lynn


Hi Lynn,

I always look at my photos (I use Lightroom) at a ratio of 1:1, this will tell me if the photo is actually sharp enough to print. You should be able to do that in any program. Also, maybe shoot at a faster shutter speed to counter any camera shake.

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Apr 1, 2017 17:48:42   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
Bottom line: Is the photographer happy with it as a 24"x36" print?

That's it...no raining on parades.....

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Apr 1, 2017 20:06:22   #
Somerset Lynn Loc: Somerset, NJ
 
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
Bottom line: Is the photographer happy with it as a 24"x36" print?

That's it...no raining on parades.....

No I was very disappointed. My own fault. Thanks.

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Apr 2, 2017 05:33:40   #
avemal Loc: BALTIMORE
 
Somerset Lynn wrote:
I am posting 2 photos that I printed on metal 24x36. I want to hang them as a pair. Woodstorks is crisp, but the Sandhill Cranes is slightly out of focus. Your thoughts please Hogs. Didn't realize before printed. For future prints, can this be remedied?
Thank you,
Lynn


Nice. What proceedure do you use to print on metal. I put on wood.--Thanks

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Apr 2, 2017 06:09:52   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Somerset Lynn wrote:
I am posting 2 photos that I printed on metal 24x36. I want to hang them as a pair. Woodstorks is crisp, but the Sandhill Cranes is slightly out of focus. Your thoughts please Hogs. Didn't realize before printed. For future prints, can this be remedied?
Thank you,
Lynn


Yes, there does seem to be a bit of shake in the Sandhill Cranes. But are the Woodstorks actually that over exposed for their whitest areas. All I see is white, no feathers (detail) on the middle of the wings and back.

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Apr 2, 2017 06:29:48   #
cjbarnett
 
Contrast in the second photo is less than the first, causing an illusion of softness. When joer added contrast the image appeared sharper. Smart sharpening probably also helped. I like the result of joer's additional tweaking but the picture was pretty good to start with.

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Apr 2, 2017 06:44:34   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Somerset Lynn wrote:
I am posting 2 photos that I printed on metal 24x36. I want to hang them as a pair. Woodstorks is crisp, but the Sandhill Cranes is slightly out of focus. Your thoughts please Hogs. Didn't realize before printed. For future prints, can this be remedied?
Thank you,
Lynn


The top one looks good, but it's only on my monitor. The second is not as sharp, but it looks like there's some movement of the left bird's head. That's a very large print size, and it will only exaggerate any imperfection. You need ideal conditions - gear and animal - to get absolutely sharp wildlife pictures. Blowing them up on the screen before printing will let you look at the details. Still, from a few feet away, I bet they both look stunning.

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Apr 2, 2017 06:55:34   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
jerryc41 wrote:
The top one looks good, but it's only on my monitor. The second is not as sharp, but it looks like there's some movement of the left bird's head. That's a very large print size, and it will only exaggerate any imperfection. You need ideal conditions - gear and animal - to get absolutely sharp wildlife pictures. Blowing them up on the screen before printing will let you look at the details. Still, from a few feet away, I bet they both look stunning.

Exactly. We are looking at it on a monitor; how it looks as a print is something which could be quite different.

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Apr 2, 2017 07:15:50   #
Doug RC Loc: Western Massachusetts
 
Greetings ...
Your original shot of the Sandhill cranes looks better than the 'sharpened etc' one ..
You didn't say what your 'focal length' setting was .. I've had a lot of success shooting with
at distance using a large Focal length setting ( 18-35 ) the wider/deeper depth of field yields
'more' of the photo being sharp. Though it really only works well in bright daylight situations.
Just a thought. No Question a tripod and remote shutter button helps too.
Have fun.

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Apr 2, 2017 08:10:19   #
par4fore Loc: Bay Shore N.Y.
 
Somerset Lynn wrote:
I am posting 2 photos that I printed on metal 24x36. I want to hang them as a pair. Woodstorks is crisp, but the Sandhill Cranes is slightly out of focus. Your thoughts please Hogs. Didn't realize before printed. For future prints, can this be remedied?
Thank you,
Lynn


With birds if the eye isn't tack sharp then it's no way for me but you have to like it so..
I like the photo so much if it were mine I would make it a watercolor in PSCC.


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Apr 2, 2017 08:31:49   #
TomV Loc: Annapolis, Maryland
 
The cranes were shot with 1/180 sec and the storks at 1/1000 sec. Probably the biggest source of the slight camera movement impact causing the quality difference.

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Apr 2, 2017 09:09:33   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Good morning. Okay, I analyzed the sandhill crane shot, and developed it. See the result below.

Your camera (Sony DSC-RX 10M3) is a bridge camera, capable of shooting in the RAW file format. But it seems you took this picture in the JPEG file format. I found pronounced JPEG artifacts and obvious noise, even with an ISO setting of 150. As to the source of the blur, I found noticeable blur evidently from camera motion.

Please note that Photoshop Creative Cloud has had a filter called "Camera Shake Reduction" since at least last year. This filter can eliminate the effect of motion blur from camera motion -- within limits. It also can compensate for JPEG artifacts by reducing them, at the cost of some image sharpness. The filter has a smoothing function adjustable with a slider. Minimizing the effects of artifacts and noise the user can, by eye, bring more sharpness to an image despite camera motion during a shot. I used CSR on your image to improve it.

But first I reduced the image noise in the Blue and Red Channels in PCC. This helped with providing CSR a better starting image for adjustment.

As you can tell, I also developed your image, using PCC, with my standard development process. But I did not apply the High Pass Filter which could have further sharpened the finished image.

Recommendation: Shoot in the RAW file format. Set the camera to Image Shake Reduction to minimize the effect of camera motion in the resulting image.

The RAW file format allows for more latitude in image development.

You may wish also to buy (used or refurbished) a late-model DSLR for the ability to capture an image with better quality in the first place.

Nevertheless, your image of the sand cranes looks much better after some further development. You'd have to decide if it meets your standard for hanging.

I hope my comment here helps.

Have a good day.
Somerset Lynn wrote:
I am posting 2 photos that I printed on metal 24x36. I want to hang them as a pair. Woodstorks is crisp, but the Sandhill Cranes is slightly out of focus. Your thoughts please Hogs. Didn't realize before printed. For future prints, can this be remedied?
Thank you,
Lynn



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