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Mar 24, 2017 01:15:28   #
dfrost01 Loc: Princeton, NJ
 
I know a teleconverter reduces the amount of light reaching the sensor, but does it also reduce the resolution of the image? I will be shooting the solar eclipse this August with my Sony a7r2 42MP camera. Planning to use the Sony 70-400 full frame lens. If I use the camera in crop mode to increase my focal length, it will reduce the resolution to about 20MP. Need to decide which way to go. Crop mode or full frame with teleconverter?

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Mar 24, 2017 01:42:48   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Shooting in crop mode will do just that, crop your picture in camera, it will not increase your magnification, the teleconverter will.

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Mar 24, 2017 04:56:10   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
dfrost01 wrote:
... If I use the camera in crop mode to increase my focal length, ...

Crop mode does not increase your focal length.

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Mar 24, 2017 05:00:15   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
dfrost01 wrote:
I know a teleconverter reduces the amount of light reaching the sensor, but does it also reduce the resolution of the image? I will be shooting the solar eclipse this August with my Sony a7r2 42MP camera. Planning to use the Sony 70-400 full frame lens. If I use the camera in crop mode to increase my focal length, it will reduce the resolution to about 20MP. Need to decide which way to go. Crop mode or full frame with teleconverter?


Crop mode is the same as cropping in post.

In the simplest terms a teleconverter changes the focal length. A 1.4X will diminish the maximum opening by 1 stop, and you will lose about 5% of your image quality. If you stop the lens down one stop, it will be fine as long as the optic is extremely sharp to begin with. If the lens has flaws or is weak at 400mm, it may not be much better than just cropping.

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Mar 24, 2017 06:12:29   #
OviedoPhotos
 
I use a TC 1.4x on a prime lens and notice a degradation of picture quality but its slight. Given the choice here, IMO, your probably better off cropping.

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Mar 24, 2017 06:16:18   #
par4fore Loc: Bay Shore N.Y.
 
Use the TC1.4, you can still crop in post if you want. I would never tie my hands by cropping in camera, it buys you nothing. Good luck.

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Mar 24, 2017 09:15:48   #
dfrost01 Loc: Princeton, NJ
 
Thanks,everyone, for clarifying

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Mar 25, 2017 09:02:39   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
dfrost01 wrote:
I know a teleconverter reduces the amount of light reaching the sensor, but does it also reduce the resolution of the image? I will be shooting the solar eclipse this August with my Sony a7r2 42MP camera. Planning to use the Sony 70-400 full frame lens. If I use the camera in crop mode to increase my focal length, it will reduce the resolution to about 20MP. Need to decide which way to go. Crop mode or full frame with teleconverter?


Some solar tips -

http://www.mreclipse.com/SEphoto/SEphoto.html
http://www.eclipse2017.org/2017/photographing.HTM
http://www.nikonusa.com/en/learn-and-explore/article/h20zakgu/how-to-photograph-a-solar-eclipse.html
https://photographylife.com/how-to-photograph-a-solar-eclipse

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Mar 25, 2017 09:29:13   #
Steve Perry Loc: Sylvania, Ohio
 
I wrote an article on this exact topic last year:

http://backcountrygallery.com/use-teleconverter-crop-image/

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Mar 25, 2017 09:47:14   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
dfrost01 wrote:
I know a teleconverter reduces the amount of light reaching the sensor, but does it also reduce the resolution of the image? I will be shooting the solar eclipse this August with my Sony a7r2 42MP camera. Planning to use the Sony 70-400 full frame lens. If I use the camera in crop mode to increase my focal length, it will reduce the resolution to about 20MP. Need to decide which way to go. Crop mode or full frame with teleconverter?


I do not know of the quality of the Sony TCs. But the Canon MIII series with the lenses matched to them beat cropping the photo every time. But if there is no matched TC for your lens with MTF the same as without then it is matched to your lens and will work just fine.

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Mar 25, 2017 11:43:37   #
jackpi Loc: Southwest Ohio
 
dfrost01 wrote:
I know a teleconverter reduces the amount of light reaching the sensor, but does it also reduce the resolution of the image? I will be shooting the solar eclipse this August with my Sony a7r2 42MP camera. Planning to use the Sony 70-400 full frame lens. If I use the camera in crop mode to increase my focal length, it will reduce the resolution to about 20MP. Need to decide which way to go. Crop mode or full frame with teleconverter?

Is the Sony 1.4TC compatible with the 20-400mm lens? Teleconverters work best on prime lenses. If you haven't bought the 70-400mm lens yet, you might want to consider renting a Sigma 150-600mm Sport lens with the Canon mount and the Sigma Canon-Sony adapter.

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Mar 25, 2017 11:53:16   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
What filter are you using for the eclipse?

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Mar 25, 2017 13:39:58   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
dfrost01 wrote:
I know a teleconverter reduces the amount of light reaching the sensor, but does it also reduce the resolution of the image? I will be shooting the solar eclipse this August with my Sony a7r2 42MP camera. Planning to use the Sony 70-400 full frame lens. If I use the camera in crop mode to increase my focal length, it will reduce the resolution to about 20MP. Need to decide which way to go. Crop mode or full frame with teleconverter?


First, be aware that cropping in-camera is no different than doing the same crop later in your computer. It doesn't matter whether you set the camera to APS-C crop or if you shoot full frame and later crop the image to the same dimensions in post-processing... the resulting cropped image is exactly the same, either way. So, why bother doing the in-camera crop?

On the other hand, a teleconverter will increase the magnification of your lens. The problem is, there are almost infinite possible combinations of teleconverters and lenses. There is always some loss of image quality to any teleconverter... but it's very difficult to predict how much unless you can find someone using a specific teleconverter with exactly the same lens.

In general terms... a 1.4X teleconverter "costs" less light loss (one stop) and it's weaker magnification makes for less loss of image quality than a 2X teleconverter (two stops of light loss).

But there are still a lot of different TCs. Just for example, Kenko currently offers three 1.4X: Pro 300, MC-4 and HD.

As far as I know, the Kenko HD is relatively new and only offered in Canon mount (to accommodate EF and EF-S lenses). While it's often more expensive than the other two, it uses fewer elements which usually indicates lower quality.

The Kenko 1.4X Pro 300 model is considered pretty darned good and sharp across the entire image area and might be a better choice for full frame cameras. It is more expensive and uses 5 elements in 4 groups.

The Kenko 1.4X MC-4 is a lower priced model, quite sharp in the center of the image, but less so in corners and at the edges... so it might be a better choice for APS-C cameras. It uses 4 elements in 4 groups.

You'll find similar variation in teleconverters from Sigma and Tamron (AFAIK, Tokina doesn't offer any TCs... probably because Tokina and Kenko are subsidiaries of the same parent company). I have no experience with any TCs that Sony themselves might offer... OEM products might be better matched with the company's lenses, but tend to be more expensive (that's certainly the case with the Canon lenses and TCs I use).

You need to very carefully investigate photographing a solar eclipse... Done incorrectly you can damage your camera or even do permanent injury to your eye! A special Solar Filter is absolutely mandatory.

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Mar 26, 2017 13:27:53   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
I looked at your article and video. The one question you posed that I didn't hear an answer to was how does an FX image with a TC compare to an FX image without a TC, cropped in Photoshop?
Steve Perry wrote:
I wrote an article on this exact topic last year:

http://backcountrygallery.com/use-teleconverter-crop-image/

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Mar 26, 2017 14:06:54   #
Steve Perry Loc: Sylvania, Ohio
 
Bobspez wrote:
I looked at your article and video. The one question you posed that I didn't hear an answer to was how does an FX image with a TC compare to an FX image without a TC, cropped in Photoshop?


The crop would be the same regardless of whether it happened in camera or in Photoshop, so the results would also be the same as described in the article.

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