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Feb 5, 2017 15:59:58   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Eagle65 wrote:
I did not miss the point. You do not know how your camera works.

I also said to not bother me anymore!


To whom are speaking. Sir. Please use <quote reply>.

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Feb 5, 2017 16:00:24   #
photoman022 Loc: Manchester CT USA
 
Started off shooting jpeg; went to shooting raw + jpeg, now only shoot in raw and won't go back unless I'm doing a shoot for someone who cannot/will not process the raw images.

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Feb 5, 2017 16:00:27   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
Eagle65 wrote:
I did not miss the point. You do not know how your camera works.

I also said to not bother me anymore!


If you check my comment, you'll notice that I'm responding to Burk-- not you.



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Feb 5, 2017 16:12:49   #
Eagle65
 
You still don't have a clue.

This is the last time I ask you to leave me alone.

Go bother someone else and see how long that lasts.

The next time I will report you.

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Feb 5, 2017 16:26:24   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I would take issue with your statement that Photoshop Cloud is the only way to go for serious photographers. Other than not draining $10/month from my wallet, PSCS6 works just as well for serious photographers. The only time I'd consent to that ransom fee to use photoshop is when CS6 no longer does what I need it to do. That is going to be some time.
--Bob


georgevedwards wrote:
I used to use both all the time, just to play it safe. For many years jpg is all there were, RAW was the interloper. Photoshop in those days would not recognize NEF (Nikon's RAW) for instance. Then I had to use a DNG converter. But Photoshop Cloud is the only way to go for serious photographers; that too I did with great reluctance but for $10 a month it soon became obvious it was the way to go, you get automatic updates for all the new stuff, including the RAW/NEF recognition. Why pay hundreds periodically to update? When I got a 24mp camera, I needed to have more room to save the bigger files. Again, I feel a serious photographer needs a lot of megapixels. You can't crop effectively without them. Very reluctantly I decided to try to shoot with just RAW. I found I really had no use for all those jpg negatives clogging up my camera memory card or my computer itself. I used to waste hours of time when I needed space, deleting jpgs or putting them on discs, etc. to free up hard drive space. It is just a useless luxury for those who don't do much photography or maybe have some need to jpgs ready all the time unprocessed. Personally I find processing necessary, so I wouldn't use a straight jpg from the camera anyhow. My conclusion: use camera jpg if thats ALL you need, no RAW. Otherwise ou can always make a jpg yourself during processing, which is what I do at the end and put my own "extension" of .web on the file name. Jpgs are useless pretty much except for transmitting wirelessly like on the web, where they are necessary. Of course if you are not a serious photographer you might want to just just jpg on your camera to save space; but in that case I would question why you are even using a DSLR. If you are serious at all about photography it makes no sense to use jpg on the camera, just use RAW.
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Feb 5, 2017 16:43:19   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Eagle65 wrote:
You still don't have a clue.

This is the last time I ask you to leave me alone.

Go bother someone else and see how long that lasts.

The next time I will report you.


To whom, or about whom are you complaining? It is you that appears to be the problem here, Sir!

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Feb 5, 2017 17:06:56   #
Silke Loc: Germany
 
I shoot both jpeg and raw, but as I tend to only use the raw...I'm thinking of ditching the jpeg setting.

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Feb 5, 2017 17:15:05   #
mffox Loc: Avon, CT
 
I shoot in both; I've tried RAW only, but have found that I have to convert at least 1 image to JPEG out of each batch for printing, sharing, etc.

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Feb 5, 2017 17:30:01   #
Silke Loc: Germany
 
I have to say tho...I rarely even download the jpgs off the card.
CR2 (Canon Raw) gets pulled straight onto an external drive and metadata / keyworded in Lightroom.

Also, I have PS6, and have used it for the longest time. Then there was a good offer for Adobe Photographer (PSCC/LR) and I thought I'll try it out.
I'll be renewing my subscription...just for Lightroom. Seriously, I'm in love with the dang software. :)
Very easy to use.

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Feb 5, 2017 17:30:32   #
Nature_Shooter Loc: Chesterfield Missouri
 
I always shot RAW. If I want a jpeg it is easy enough to make one. You never know when you are going to get that once in a lifetime shot. Just in case, you want it be the best possible quality with the most editability (if that is even a word).

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Feb 5, 2017 17:38:55   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Silke wrote:
I shoot both jpeg and raw, but as I tend to only use the raw...I'm thinking of ditching the jpeg setting.


As others have said, they serve different purposes. If event-based time to internet publication is important JPEG usually has the advantage. If image quality is most important then raw has the advantage. With both you can get the time advantage, and for a good image refine the results. Disk is cheap!

I've enjoyed my visits to Bavaria!

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Feb 5, 2017 17:54:46   #
PAR4DCR Loc: A Sunny Place
 
My D7100 has two card slots. Slot #1 is set for Raw and Slot #2 is set for JPEG.

Don

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Feb 5, 2017 18:16:13   #
jbk224 Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Thanks pd. Good point!

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Feb 5, 2017 20:15:06   #
DoyleY Loc: Worland, Wyoming
 
steve49 wrote:
Do you shoot some of each or are you all in one way or the other?

Thoughts on when you may reduce the files or when you feel the need to shoot raw?


I shoot both, sometimes I review the JPEG first, if I don't feel the photo requires editing I go ahead and go with the JPEG.
If I feel it needs editing I edit the raw file.

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Feb 5, 2017 20:38:15   #
DJphoto Loc: SF Bay Area
 
burkphoto wrote:
Yeah, but an average horse generates 14.9 peak hp... the standard is arbitrary.

1 hp = 745.7 watts.


Or, 1 HP = 550 ft-lb/sec

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