Keystone XL Pipeline
Jun 3, 2012 09:57:02 #
Mattie wrote:
Obama doesnt want the oil in this country to benef... (show quote)
Those benefits apply to all elected representatives not just the President. And if there so appalling to you, get elected to office and make changes. Pissing and moaning about it doesn't accomplish anything.
Jun 3, 2012 11:06:01 #
richnash46 wrote:
quote=carlysue I am just wondering how you folk w... (show quote)
great article, it's just a shame people are to lazy to read it.
Jun 3, 2012 12:44:03 #
Mattie wrote:
Obama doesnt want the oil in this country to benef... (show quote)
What rock have you been living under or tree you have been hiding behind to willingly ignore reality as you seem to.
Jun 3, 2012 12:47:33 #
Harvey wrote:
There are several things to address here: br Did a... (show quote)
Very well stated Harvey!
Jun 3, 2012 14:59:51 #
docrob
Loc: Durango, Colorado
carlysue wrote:
Thanks, Donrent and Archy. But you both live in Florida and you would not be one of the 50 people out of 5,000 who would have to look at this or be concerned what a tornado would do to it.....just sayin'.
If it's built it won't run through Colorado either. However, if its built and it leaks into the Ogallala Aquifer it could potentially render that irreplaceable water unusable for many many years and that, I think would greatly impact not just the people of Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas, New Mexico, South Dakota, Wyoming, and eastern Colorado but all of us And THAT would be a huge f****** deal for all US citizens.......
Secondly, ain't it curious that the folk who live in Canada don't want it built through their land either? Gee wonder why?
Jun 3, 2012 17:45:24 #
What is really silly and makes no sense is that even if a conservative gets a speeding ticket, it's Obama's fault.
Jun 3, 2012 21:06:07 #
Thanks all for your opinions. Thanks richnash for the wikipedia site. I have bookmarked that as its long and my eyes go crossed and see double after being on the computer too long.
Jun 16, 2012 21:25:38 #
I do not understand why the Obama administration is playing politics with this issue. The oil is going to be sold. Either through a pipeline to the gulf creating thousands of jobs in the US, or across the mountains to BC to be shipped to China. Between the two I would much rather it went to the US. I personally would rather see a refinery built in Alberta and the gas shipped by pipeline to eastern Canada so we could be self sufficient instead of importing middle eastern oil.
Jun 16, 2012 21:34:18 #
That would make too much sense and probably not bring in the money that selling it to Asia would bring. I'd like to think the issue was the environment but the bottom line is money.
Jun 16, 2012 22:24:28 #
carlysue wrote:
That would make too much sense and probably not bring in the money that selling it to Asia would bring. I'd like to think the issue was the environment but the bottom line is money.
IT'S ALWAYS THE MONEY. :roll:
Nov 28, 2012 01:51:46 #
Mattie wrote:
One would think as cozy as Obama is with the unions, he'd jump at that pipeline, but the enviornmentalists must mean more to him than those union men. Then he wonders why manufacturers have gone over seas to have their products made... it's cause of the unions demanding and getting such high salaries which has driven up the cost of products in this country. I remember when a big box of cereal cost 55 cents. Now it's way over 3 bucks and you get less of it than back then, too.
:thumbup:
Nov 28, 2012 02:21:59 #
Greg-Colo wrote:
quote=Mattie One would think as cozy as Obama is ... (show quote)
Guess you've never heard of inflation.
Nov 28, 2012 03:15:25 #
I hear this all the time - I started in the grocery stores in 1953 - ya things were a lot cheaper then and I made $1.25 an hour. In 54 coffee doubled in price overnight - no unions involved - coffee went from .75 lb. to 1.50 l.b.- 5 cents a cup to 10 cents a cup - no unions in the coffee shop. Gold was $35 an ounce now it's $1,500 an ounce - no unions involved. You can't blame the unions for everything. I personally am glad I have worked union jobs & have had a better retirement because of it. 40 yrs to get 30 yrs vested in my pension fun - one unemployment check in those 40 yrs - Ya - I earned every penny I have been getting "In the Mail" for the past 17 yrs. Also at the time I did have my retirement time in I also had to have both knees replaced from working on those cement floors and lifting with my knees to save my back as all the Safety Signs say. LMOA
Harvey
Harvey
wlgoode wrote:
quote=Greg-Colo quote=Mattie One would think as ... (show quote)
Nov 28, 2012 14:47:31 #
Harvey wrote:
I hear this all the time - I started in the grocer... (show quote)
Unions have some very good points and fewer bad points. When there is no union it is the individual against big business with all it's power, money and lawyers, an unfair fight. With unions the fight is more fair and negotiations can be on a level table. However, there are times when the Union is bigger than the business or municipality. I think we need a few rules about unions so they can stay and help. When a company comes to the table for negotiations maybe if they were to wrangle with the local or state union without having to do battle with the megalithic super union it would be more fair. I know this is a simplistic solution but it seems that we should be able to negotiate a solution. After all, the purpose of unions is all about fair negotiation.
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