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Jan 13, 2017 09:39:10   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
whitewolfowner wrote:
I see a lot of terrible junk posted here; out of focus, composition is terrible, photo sucks big time, color off by 60-70 units; just disgusting. Many do no post processing or have no clue how to do it, etc.... But you know what, I look at, puke internally (every piece of crap tells a story too) and go on. If the person is looking for help and posts the photo as downloadable, I answer them privately and try to help them, but I don't publicly put them down; I only attack who attacks me. If we all did that, there would be no attacking on the hogg. Don't forget, there are beginners here trying to learn. But, unfortunately, as we all know, there are those who just want to bully, makes them feel like the big man (only way they can get it) (you know the type, the one's with the microscopic........), you get my drift, don't you.
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I hear you but I have a soft spot for bullies. And he is definitely one of them. In his threads that he starts, if someone disagree with him, he immediately puts the person on his ignore list. Hopefully soon everyone gets in that list and hopefully he will go away

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Jan 13, 2017 09:42:04   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
philden wrote:
Every picture has a technical story behind it; ie, where & when it was taken, what camera & lens, what film used, what aperture and shutter speed, etcetera. There's a lot to be learned from that info.

Then there's the moment in time a photograph captures; who can forget pics of Hiroshima? the photo of Vietnamese Mahayana Buddhist monk Thích Quang Duc who burned himself to death at a busy intersection in Saigon? The Tsunami in Thailand? And Eddie Adams photo of the prisoner being executed in Saigaon?

“Still photographs are the most powerful weapon in the world”, AP photojournalist Eddie Adams once wrote. A fitting quote for Adams, because his 1968 photograph of an officer shooting a handcuffed prisoner in the head at point-blank range not only earned him a Pulitzer Prize in 1969, but also went a long way toward souring Americans’ attitudes about the Vietnam War.

Google: "Pulitzer prize winning images" and take a gander. I dare anyone to say that these images don't tell a story. Nuff' said.
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Jan 13, 2017 09:43:16   #
harryd Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
Splenetic. It's been a while since I had to look up a word on the internet. I like the way it just rolls of the tongue.
Can't wait to use that in a conversation. Thank you.

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Jan 13, 2017 09:46:37   #
catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway
 
The Ultimate goal of course...any one who says different should be shooting soup cans...oh, hmmm i think that may have been done once!

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Jan 13, 2017 09:50:45   #
mstuhr Loc: Oregon
 
"Splenetic" great word. Polite word. I agree with you.

mike

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Jan 13, 2017 09:56:23   #
photon38
 
I agree they can tell stories, but I would say, the story is not often deliberate. we tend to see the story later
There is a story, behind the stories as well.
Think of the iconic photo in Nat Geographic cover, of the Afgan girl/now woman, and the others the writer quoted
So many of the really iconic photos originate in the middle east, now that in itself is a story, of a whole region of the world.
Don't ask me what that means, We could have a very long talk about that , but not in this forum, I think

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Jan 13, 2017 09:59:02   #
hiker60 Loc: Northern Idaho
 
If a photo doesn't tell a story, then what's it's purpose? I still recall my college professors hammering and hammering away on the theme of "..tell a story with your picture. You are capturing a slice in time!"

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Jan 13, 2017 10:07:23   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
rdgreenwood wrote:
Earlier this week I posted a photo and asked what people thought the story was. I wasn't feeling well, the result of an "airliner cold," but I thought some banter about a light-hearted photo might perk me up. Well, let me tell you, in short order someone posted a rather splenetic response, informing me that photos don't tell stories. Not wanting to throw cold water on the conversation, I responded that I didn't agree but the person was entitled to his opinion.

Not good enough! The writer wrote back, citing sources and broadening his argument in an attempt to completely discredit the notion that a photo could tell a story. As I said, I wasn't feeling well, so I wrote it off as the rantings of some sparrow-fart (a nod to Kurt Vonnegut for that descriptor) and tried to put it behind me.

But it nagged at me. I thought of the photo of the sailor kissing the nurse in Times Square at the end of WWII, the Vietnamese girl running naked with festering burns caused by napalm, the recent photo of the Syrian child sitting bloodied and dazed in an ambulance. (I'm betting that every one of you knows exactly what photos I've just listed.) And I asked myself, "If those images aren't telling a story, then why have they become iconic?"

Then, on Tuesday evening, I attended my camera club meeting, and half of the meeting was dedicated to a "member critique," in which a panel of three of our better photographers sat and commented on images that members had submitted for evaluation. It's a really nice event, and everyone learns from it, whether they agree or disagree with the comments. And it happened: over and over, the panel members included an assessment of the photos' story-telling quality. Over and over, I heard, "This image tells a (You insert the adjective) story." Over and over, the panel members alluded to story telling as a normal and crucial element of their evaluation.

So here's my question--I know, I know, it's about time I got to my question--Do you think photos tell stories? Obviously, I do. Obviously, at least one person doesn't. What do you think?
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All the BEST photos tell stories. It may be a very short story or even a joke, but when a photo "speaks" to you you know a PHOTOGRAPHER was behind the camera!

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Jan 13, 2017 10:07:34   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
burkphoto wrote:
I think you DID encounter a 'ranting sparrow fart!'

Some people are just contrarians for the sake of it.

There is little question of the storytelling power of images. Photography is a visual language with compositional structure and situational syntax. A good photographer can complete a story in an instant's glance that would take a writer several paragraphs to convey less completely.

The very definition of 'photojournalism' is "storytelling with words and pictures'. So there is a complementary aspect that is more powerful than words or photos alone.
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Jan 13, 2017 10:39:58   #
Bunko.T Loc: Western Australia.
 
rdgreenwood wrote:
Earlier this week I posted a photo and asked what people thought the story was. I wasn't feeling well, the result of an "airliner cold," but I thought some banter about a light-hearted photo might perk me up. Well, let me tell you, in short order someone posted a rather splenetic response, informing me that photos don't tell stories. Not wanting to throw cold water on the conversation, I responded that I didn't agree but the person was entitled to his opinion.

Not good enough! The writer wrote back, citing sources and broadening his argument in an attempt to completely discredit the notion that a photo could tell a story. As I said, I wasn't feeling well, so I wrote it off as the rantings of some sparrow-fart (a nod to Kurt Vonnegut for that descriptor) and tried to put it behind me.

But it nagged at me. I thought of the photo of the sailor kissing the nurse in Times Square at the end of WWII, the Vietnamese girl running naked with festering burns caused by napalm, the recent photo of the Syrian child sitting bloodied and dazed in an ambulance. (I'm betting that every one of you knows exactly what photos I've just listed.) And I asked myself, "If those images aren't telling a story, then why have they become iconic?"

Then, on Tuesday evening, I attended my camera club meeting, and half of the meeting was dedicated to a "member critique," in which a panel of three of our better photographers sat and commented on images that members had submitted for evaluation. It's a really nice event, and everyone learns from it, whether they agree or disagree with the comments. And it happened: over and over, the panel members included an assessment of the photos' story-telling quality. Over and over, I heard, "This image tells a (You insert the adjective) story." Over and over, the panel members alluded to story telling as a normal and crucial element of their evaluation.

So here's my question--I know, I know, it's about time I got to my question--Do you think photos tell stories? Obviously, I do. Obviously, at least one person doesn't. What do you think?
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There was another pic in the news in recent times: The body of a little boy washed up on the beach, from a tragic end to a refugee boat. That image made many people cry, even me.

However, every photo I take is to tell a story. Big or small story, is not important, it's a story told through my eyes.
Any critic of a photo is reading that story, through his eyes, many responses to the photo posts here are their interpretation of that story.
You were kind to your critic, in Sparrow fart. I'd suggest an arsehole. Don't be put off by them, there's plenty here on this forum, depending on the section you frequent.
I'd go a step further

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Jan 13, 2017 10:47:04   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
pithydoug wrote:
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Back in the late '70s and through the mid-'80s, I was a multi-image audiovisual producer. I told stories with words, music, and *streams* of images from a dozen computer-synchronized slide projectors. The words provided a linear, logical message. The images grounded the message with rapid fire depictions of physical reality and graphic symbology. The music tied the messages and images together with emotion. The result was sometimes a shocking realization of a controlled nature. It was an enormously persuasive medium.

The shows we did (I had help from a designer, an artist, a cartoonist, and an assistant) moved audiences to action, either as part of training them, or encouraging them to sell something, to buy something, to fill out paperwork correctly (!), or to join our company. Time and again, we were told that our shows crystalized the decisions people were hesitant to make.

The techniques of multi-image live on today, in TV advertising. Typical 30 second TV spots contain 25 to 40 different images, plus graphics, logos, text... The presentation is in HD video, but it is much the same as what we did with slides on a 27' wide, 6' high screen.

You can never tell me that images don't tell stories!

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Jan 13, 2017 10:51:13   #
Bunko.T Loc: Western Australia.
 
burkphoto wrote:
I think you DID encounter a 'ranting sparrow fart!'

Some people are just contrarians for the sake of it.

There is little question of the storytelling power of images. Photography is a visual language with compositional structure and situational syntax. A good photographer can complete a story in an instant's glance that would take a writer several paragraphs to convey less completely.

The very definition of 'photojournalism' is "storytelling with words and pictures'. So there is a complementary aspect that is more powerful than words or photos alone.
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A photo doesn't need a text necessarily. Who was it that coined the phrase: "A picture says a thousand words".
As some one here said the story is in the eye of the beholder.
Even a stick says: "I'm a stick".

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Jan 13, 2017 10:53:44   #
Bunko.T Loc: Western Australia.
 
Mogul wrote:
OK, I have gone through this thread and I'm not going to comment on your hypothesis except to state a couple of highly biased opinions. Call it hijacking; call it flaming. The member who chose to disagree did so, not because he believes what he says, but because he is an angry unimaginative cold-hearted lonely narcissist who would argue with a dead fish.

(And don't bother to respond, Floyd. I'll just ignore you!)

RD, you have provided so many good examples that there should be no argument. Sure, a photograph can be taken that does not tell a story, but many do. If people don't want to call it a story, they can refer to it as a learning experience. The photo of Kim Phúc (Phan Thị Kim Phúc OOnt), the nine year old "Napalm Girl" by Nick Ut tells a story loud and clear, as does the photo of General Nguyen Ngoc Loan executing a prisoner and as do many of the individual photos taken at Auschwitz. Anybody who can't read the story in these pictures and/or learn a lesson from them is either a recluse, a fool or a pathetic imbecile.
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OR BLIND.

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Jan 13, 2017 11:00:43   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
All photos tell stories. It may only be the story behind the photo - why it was taken, how it was taken. Or it could be a story revealed by multiple photos - one that reveals the photgrapher's soul, or that chronicles events over time.

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Jan 13, 2017 11:09:51   #
EOB Photo
 
I believe the matter is a question of semantics. Yes a photograph may tell a story but it's only captures a moment in time.

But a good story is ongoing so it's hard to imagine what happens after the photograph is taken.

Perhaps it comes down to how creative we are and how vivid our imagination is.

Nice topic for discussion though.

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