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Jan 12, 2017 20:22:06   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
Bobspez wrote:
From Webster's online dictionary "an account of incidents or events". That implies multiple incidents or events, which implies more than one point of time. I think we are getting a bit overly worried about semantics and photography expert definitions. I think if we can't agree on what a story is, the whole thread is meaningless.

Human nature...

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Jan 12, 2017 20:43:35   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
rdgreenwood wrote:
Well, let me tell you, in short order someone posted a rather splenetic response, informing me that photos don't tell stories.


WTF? Remember, Rod Stewart said, "Every picture tells a story." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmyGa29zIqk

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Jan 12, 2017 22:31:00   #
RoRo
 
I think that person most likely has a very dull imagination.

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Jan 12, 2017 22:33:44   #
RoRo
 
That person should take a look at some National geographic photos....those tell deep stories.

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Jan 13, 2017 02:08:29   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
rdgreenwood wrote:
Earlier this week I posted a photo and asked what people thought the story was. I wasn't feeling well, the result of an "airliner cold," but I thought some banter about a light-hearted photo might perk me up. Well, let me tell you, in short order someone posted a rather splenetic response, informing me that photos don't tell stories. Not wanting to throw cold water on the conversation, I responded that I didn't agree but the person was entitled to his opinion.

Not good enough! The writer wrote back, citing sources and broadening his argument in an attempt to completely discredit the notion that a photo could tell a story. As I said, I wasn't feeling well, so I wrote it off as the rantings of some sparrow-fart (a nod to Kurt Vonnegut for that descriptor) and tried to put it behind me.

But it nagged at me. I thought of the photo of the sailor kissing the nurse in Times Square at the end of WWII, the Vietnamese girl running naked with festering burns caused by napalm, the recent photo of the Syrian child sitting bloodied and dazed in an ambulance. (I'm betting that every one of you knows exactly what photos I've just listed.) And I asked myself, "If those images aren't telling a story, then why have they become iconic?"

Then, on Tuesday evening, I attended my camera club meeting, and half of the meeting was dedicated to a "member critique," in which a panel of three of our better photographers sat and commented on images that members had submitted for evaluation. It's a really nice event, and everyone learns from it, whether they agree or disagree with the comments. And it happened: over and over, the panel members included an assessment of the photos' story-telling quality. Over and over, I heard, "This image tells a (You insert the adjective) story." Over and over, the panel members alluded to story telling as a normal and crucial element of their evaluation.

So here's my question--I know, I know, it's about time I got to my question--Do you think photos tell stories? Obviously, I do. Obviously, at least one person doesn't. What do you think?
Earlier this week I posted a photo and asked what ... (show quote)

OK, I have gone through this thread and I'm not going to comment on your hypothesis except to state a couple of highly biased opinions. Call it hijacking; call it flaming. The member who chose to disagree did so, not because he believes what he says, but because he is an angry unimaginative cold-hearted lonely narcissist who would argue with a dead fish.

(And don't bother to respond, Floyd. I'll just ignore you!)

RD, you have provided so many good examples that there should be no argument. Sure, a photograph can be taken that does not tell a story, but many do. If people don't want to call it a story, they can refer to it as a learning experience. The photo of Kim Phúc (Phan Thị Kim Phúc OOnt), the nine year old "Napalm Girl" by Nick Ut tells a story loud and clear, as does the photo of General Nguyen Ngoc Loan executing a prisoner and as do many of the individual photos taken at Auschwitz. Anybody who can't read the story in these pictures and/or learn a lesson from them is either a recluse, a fool or a pathetic imbecile.

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Jan 13, 2017 02:26:05   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
Mogul wrote:
OK, I have gone through this thread and I'm not going to comment on your hypothesis except to state a couple of highly biased opinions. Call it hijacking; call it flaming. The member who chose to disagree did so, not because he believes what he says, but because he is an angry unimaginative cold-hearted lonely narcissist who would argue with a dead fish.

(And don't bother to respond, Floyd. I'll just ignore you!)

RD, you have provided so many good examples that there should be no argument. Sure, a photograph can be taken that does not tell a story, but many do. If people don't want to call it a story, they can refer to it as a learning experience. The photo of Kim Phúc (Phan Thị Kim Phúc OOnt), the nine year old "Napalm Girl" by Nick Ut tells a story loud and clear, as does the photo of General Nguyen Ngoc Loan executing a prisoner and as do many of the individual photos taken at Auschwitz. Anybody who can't read the story in these pictures and/or learn a lesson from them is either a recluse, a fool or a pathetic imbecile.
OK, I have gone through this thread and I'm not go... (show quote)

High levels of emotion are not the equivalent of telling a story any more than it equates to intelligent discussion.

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Jan 13, 2017 03:27:49   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Apaflo wrote:
High levels of emotion are not the equivalent of telling a story any more than it equates to intelligent discussion.


Please - mogul's post was 100% spot on.

For you to try to say otherwise is funnier than Bozo the clown.

Another thing that is funny to me is that the picture that the OP posted (which is not a great shot) in that other thread is a better picture than anything I have ever seen from you. Lol!

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Jan 13, 2017 04:31:57   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
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Jan 13, 2017 04:42:42   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Mogul wrote:
.../...Anybody who can't read the story in these pictures and/or learn a lesson from them is either a recluse, a fool or a pathetic imbecile.

Well, then, I am one.

A photograph by itself does not tell anything as there is no context. The context tells the story, not the image. Not a single image you name can exists and say anything unless you know the background behind it, sorry.

It is not about being a 'recluse' or a 'pathetic imbecile'. It is about being aware BEFORE seeing the image. If you are not the reaction is.... mmmm So what (is this about)?

This is a part you are too quick to dismiss.

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Jan 13, 2017 05:48:37   #
whitewolfowner
 
Of course photos tell stories. Anyone who thinks they don't is.......well, you know, opinions are like as*ho**s; everyone has one but that doesn't mean they have any validity or that we want to hear or see it. If photos don't tell stories, then what is a photojournalist and why do publishers print photos when all they'd need do is print the word. How did Kodak make millions, if not billions with the slogan a photo tells a thousand words? Anyone who thinks photos don't tell stories has got to have a part of their brain that is dead and not functioning. How many photojournalists over the years have started countrywide and worldwide attention to a problem or cause with a photo or a series of photos. Looking at a photo and having it create an emotion in us is part of being human and may be the one thing or of the few things that separate us from the animal world.

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Jan 13, 2017 06:41:41   #
BERT12 Loc: UK NORTHERN IRELAND
 
SIR
Every picture tells a story I'm 100% with you
Albert

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Jan 13, 2017 06:46:38   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
BERT12 wrote:
SIR
Every picture tells a story I'm 100% with you
Albert


What story do abstract pictures tell?

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Jan 13, 2017 06:47:47   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
rdgreenwood wrote:
Earlier this week I posted a photo and asked what people thought the story was. I wasn't feeling well, the result of an "airliner cold," but I thought some banter about a light-hearted photo might perk me up. Well, let me tell you, in short order someone posted a rather splenetic response, informing me that photos don't tell stories. Not wanting to throw cold water on the conversation, I responded that I didn't agree but the person was entitled to his opinion.

Not good enough! The writer wrote back, citing sources and broadening his argument in an attempt to completely discredit the notion that a photo could tell a story. As I said, I wasn't feeling well, so I wrote it off as the rantings of some sparrow-fart (a nod to Kurt Vonnegut for that descriptor) and tried to put it behind me.

But it nagged at me. I thought of the photo of the sailor kissing the nurse in Times Square at the end of WWII, the Vietnamese girl running naked with festering burns caused by napalm, the recent photo of the Syrian child sitting bloodied and dazed in an ambulance. (I'm betting that every one of you knows exactly what photos I've just listed.) And I asked myself, "If those images aren't telling a story, then why have they become iconic?"

Then, on Tuesday evening, I attended my camera club meeting, and half of the meeting was dedicated to a "member critique," in which a panel of three of our better photographers sat and commented on images that members had submitted for evaluation. It's a really nice event, and everyone learns from it, whether they agree or disagree with the comments. And it happened: over and over, the panel members included an assessment of the photos' story-telling quality. Over and over, I heard, "This image tells a (You insert the adjective) story." Over and over, the panel members alluded to story telling as a normal and crucial element of their evaluation.

So here's my question--I know, I know, it's about time I got to my question--Do you think photos tell stories? Obviously, I do. Obviously, at least one person doesn't. What do you think?
Earlier this week I posted a photo and asked what ... (show quote)


The ones that do are great. I remember fondly a very good photo journalist friend in the 60's was killed in the Israel war of 1967. The announcement of his death was a simple picture of his favorite Nikon 105 mm with a bullet hole in the middle of it. THAT told the story.

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Jan 13, 2017 06:48:26   #
Ttaylor
 
Yes, I do. I wonder for those that don't if they also think that other forms of art don't tell stories.

BTW, I travel a lot and used to get "airline coughs" etc. all the time.

Now I don't. The change? I take Airborne and use sanitizer.

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Jan 13, 2017 07:06:17   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
whitewolfowner wrote:
Of course photos tell stories. Anyone who thinks they don't is.......well, you know, opinions are like as*ho**s; everyone has one but that doesn't mean they have any validity or that we want to hear or see it. If photos don't tell stories, then what is a photojournalist and why do publishers print photos when all they'd need do is print the word. How did Kodak make millions, if not billions with the slogan a photo tells a thousand words? Anyone who thinks photos don't tell stories has got to have a part of their brain that is dead and not functioning. How many photojournalists over the years have started countrywide and worldwide attention to a problem or cause with a photo or a series of photos. Looking at a photo and having it create an emotion in us is part of being human and may be the one thing or of the few things that separate us from the animal world.
Of course photos tell stories. Anyone who thinks ... (show quote)


Of course you are 100% correct.

Isn't it interesting that the two chimps who claim otherwise are also terrible photographers? Wrongy keeps starting threads to complain about jpeg shooters. No wonder he can't see a story in a picture

I couldn't for the life of me come up with a reason to embarrass myself by starting such a stupid topic. I guess he figured out another way to get attention. That right there should tell people that this guy is just a silly no talent wannabe. I mean he posts about his jpegs while looking for shots to sell and is sorry that he didn't start shooting raw sooner? Lol!!!! Honestly?

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