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Jan 7, 2017 14:18:31   #
AlanD Loc: TC, MN
 
Hasn't been said much better... Thank you!

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Jan 7, 2017 14:25:02   #
whitewolfowner
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Wow, I loved walking to and from school, especially home. A little over a mile each way, flat farm type land. I walked most of the way alongside a canal. I threw rocks into it, found cans and bottles alongside the road and pretended they were boats and threw rocks at them until they sank. Sniffed the old stale beer cans and whisky bottles and from that never drank any sort of alcohol in my life and can't stand the smell of it. Today people would freak out about a small kid walking alone on a road with a canal on one side and playing around it. And one other thing after I turned 8, I would take my 22 rifle to school, leave it in the office, retrieve it after school and shoot cans, bottles and frogs in the canal on the way home.
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Today they'd have you arrested and jail your parents. Amazing how much of a controlled police state we have turned into in such short a time. Back in the 60 and early 70's if you got caught drunk driving, you were taken to your home and presented to your parents; that took care of it most of the time after the beating you got. Today, they arrest you, ruin your life, even the ability to get a job, and before your done, you've been in jail and owe over $50,000 in legal fees and when you get out you're on welfare and committing more crime to survive. The news, just last night announced a man that has been arrested for drunk driving over a dozen times. When interviewed, he said he lost track. So what is the aim of the courts; to stop drunk driving or pad the pockets of politicians and lawyers? The young man that lived across the street from me when I was a kid, kept getting arrested for one thing and another; you name it, he did it. A smart police chief got with a judge and they put a badge on him and he cleaned up the crime in the town; he knew everything going on. He turned out to be a fine family man, and ended up making a career out of police work and later became the finest police chief the town ever saw. That is the difference between today and 35-40 years ago in America; and they say we are progressing forward!

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Jan 7, 2017 14:27:38   #
whitewolfowner
 
I remember that camera well. Referring to the kodak brownie; forgot to reference your post.

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Jan 7, 2017 14:40:16   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
Leitz wrote:
Please read the comment I replied to. I believe that if one needs to see a picture someone else has taken in order to become inspired to pick up their camera, they cannot have a passion for the art and likely never will. I hope I am wrong on that last point.


That is a tad unfair, as a student you are encouraged to study the works of past masters. Study what works, technique, composition. Learn apply adapt. There is always something to learn.

Surely there was a time when you saw someone else work and decided I want to do that :)

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Jan 7, 2017 15:16:35   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
Bobspez wrote:
The irony is that most people today are more than happy to use their phones, to get pics similar to a brownie with film. I don't have any friends or relatives that use a dslr.


This emphatically is not the case. One of my best shots of 2015 was taken with my iPhone 5s. Later models have much better quality.
If you put an 8x10 iPhone 7 print, and a mid-priced DSLR print side by side, I doubt that you could tell the difference. >Alan

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Jan 7, 2017 15:18:02   #
whitewolfowner
 
blackest wrote:
That is a tad unfair, as a student you are encouraged to study the works of past masters. Study what works, technique, composition. Learn apply adapt. There is always something to learn.

Surely there was a time when you saw someone else work and decided I want to do that :)




I would think that the inspiration to an artist would be that they were inspired by the photo; not that they want to repeat it but to do the same justice to images that they see in their mind and want to put on a medium that they can convey it to others. That is what an artist is. To just want to copy it, would be a technician.

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Jan 7, 2017 15:21:32   #
whitewolfowner
 
aellman wrote:
This emphatically is not the case. One of my best shots of 2015 was taken with my iPhone 5s. Later models have much better quality.
If you put an 8x10 iPhone 7 print, and a mid-priced DSLR print side by side, I doubt that you could tell the difference. >Alan



Did you used to work at Kodak in the camera division. They couldn't tell the difference between a fine piece of glass and the bottom of a coke bottle!

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Jan 7, 2017 15:32:00   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
whitewolfowner wrote:
Did you used to work at Kodak in the camera division. They couldn't tell the difference between a fine piece of glass and the bottom of a coke bottle!

Still they gave the world a taste of what digital photography has become.

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Jan 7, 2017 15:40:23   #
whitewolfowner
 
oldtigger wrote:
Still they gave the world a taste of what digital photography has become.



Yup and if the executives had removed their ties at work, allowed the blood to flow to their brains so they could think like a human being, they quite possibly could have been the kings of digital photography. Seems Rochester, NY companies all suffered from the same stupidity. Xerox could have been the computer kings if they didn't drive away all the software geniuses they had and marketed their operating system.

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Jan 7, 2017 15:42:42   #
1Feathercrest Loc: NEPA
 
"piqued"

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Jan 7, 2017 15:47:29   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
AlanD wrote:
There was a question not long ago about the first camera, etc... I was just a youngster, shoveling snow for neighbors, when I had enough money to purchase my first camera (I think it was 39 cents!). I then later graduated to a Kodak 126 instamatic, which I later gave to my grandmother. The next was the Kodak 110 Instamatic which was a good pocket sized camera. One of my colleagues in the mid 1970's introduced me to the Canon AT-1. The camera peaked my ambition into the realm of photography as art. I became enthralled with photography. Needless to say, over the years, with a wife and three kids, my love of photography did not suffer, but my activity in it did. I recently retired and am looking to be able to express my love of photography. On a cold, but sunny, day, I found a couple of books that inspired me in the 1970's in my love of photography--"The Joy of Photography" and "More Joy of Photography".

I was wondering how many of my fellow UHH followers were also inspired by these books from Eastman Kodak...
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I remember those... In fact my wife has a copy of "More...".

My major inspirations were both editions of the Time Life Library of Photography (Second Edition is still on my bookshelf). I also had the Kodak Encyclopedia of Photography at one point.

My career guide was "Images, Images, Images..." a book by Kodak on multi-image audiovisual production (computer programmed slide shows). That and the AMI (Association for Multi-Image) Standards Handbook were great references.

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Jan 7, 2017 15:47:50   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
It's not feasible to copy a photograph since you are likely not at the same place and conditions as whover took it. What you can copy is the equipment, settings, and style. But your photograph will still be unique.
whitewolfowner wrote:
I would think that the inspiration to an artist would be that they were inspired by the photo; not that they want to repeat it but to do the same justice to images that they see in their mind and want to put on a medium that they can convey it to others. That is what an artist is. To just want to copy it, would be a technician.

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Jan 7, 2017 15:48:08   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
whitewolfowner wrote:
Yup and if the executives had removed their ties at work, allowed the blood to flow to their brains so they could think like a human being, they quite possibly could have been the kings of digital photography. Seems Rochester, NY companies all suffered from the same stupidity. Xerox could have been the computer kings if they didn't drive away all the software geniuses they had and marketed their operating system.


Heavy metals in the water, maybe???

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Jan 7, 2017 15:55:42   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
burkphoto wrote:
Heavy metals in the water, maybe???

Since he doesn' seem concerned about the demise of Studebaker and Diamond Rio
perhaps whitewolfowner had his life savings in kodak and xerox stock?

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Jan 7, 2017 16:04:56   #
whitewolfowner
 
burkphoto wrote:
Heavy metals in the water, maybe???



For those idiots, it took a lot more than that. I suspect that politics played a role in their destruction too. I read an article that claimed (and presented evidence to the fact) that Hillary Clinton, single handedly destroyed Kodak. Sure fits in line with the globalists' agenda to destroy America's industrial giants. Worked at both places when I was younger and I saw several stupid moves by both companies when working there. Knew a few of the giants at Xerox and they were not dumb people; actually very intelligent and good business sense (at least the one's I knew); so political destruction of Xerox is a lot more believable than for Kodak. Personally, I don't think Kodak execs' need much help from Hillary, the company was doing a great job all on their own.

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