Jim Bob wrote:
If you post it, you own it for good or for ill. Grow up. There is no forum rule that states one can only heap praise on images posted in the gallery. Geesus. What planet are you from?
I guess English is not your primary language. I didn't say anything about praise. I just said that pictures in the gallery didn't call for any kind of judgement.
Shutterbugsailer wrote:
Here is an example of my sister's art. She sees herself as a talented painter. IMHO, her drawings suck, but she, as a person, is so insecure that I don't have the heart to tell her. For whatever its worth, the only thing that I can draw is a deep breath.
Wouldn't it be better for you, as her brother, to kindly point out the flaws and maybe offer suggestions than have some stranger some day tell her she is awful?
bull drink water wrote:
I guess English is not your primary language. I didn't say anything about praise. I just said that pictures in the gallery didn't call for any kind of judgement.
Boy are you mentally challenged. I'll leave it at that.
russelray wrote:
And there we have definitive proof of someone not wanting to improve those conversational skills.............
Your post confirms your status as an idiot.
Shutterbugsailer wrote:
Here is an example of my sister's art. She sees herself as a talented painter. IMHO, her drawings suck, but she, as a person, is so insecure that I don't have the heart to tell her. For whatever its worth, the only thing that I can draw is a deep breath.
If your sister posted her art on this or other public forum she should be prepared for someone to say it sucks.
Ralloh wrote:
Wouldn't it be better for you, as her brother, to kindly point out the flaws and maybe offer suggestions than have some stranger some day tell her she is awful?
That would assume her sibling is sufficiently conversant in the world of art to offer informative criticism.
I have posted here looking for advise and have been helped a lot by a couple of individuals that had a lot to offer and corrected some real problems of mine. Others have just been asses with a negative comment and nothing constructive.
To me, posting in the gallery is one thing, and posting here asking for critique are sometimes two different things. I post in this section to get feedback on a particular issue I am having and there seems to be more traffic here thus more feedback. I post in Gallery if I have an image I think is nice and worth sharing. Critique in either area is welcomed.
My problem is having images moved from here to the gallery when the purpose of the image was not show talent or lack there of, composition, or exposure or to garner praise, but to get feedback about technique, the quality of a lens, to show low light capabilities of a camera, etc.
Bill
To give criticism of a photo, whether positive or negative (i.e.--it sucks, or wow, nice pic) without say why it was good or not, accomplishes nothing for the one who posted the pic. That is how people learn anything, and they should be prepared to take the bad with the good.
Shutterbugsailer wrote:
Here is an example of my sister's art. She sees herself as a talented painter. IMHO, her drawings suck, but she, as a person, is so insecure that I don't have the heart to tell her. For whatever its worth, the only thing that I can draw is a deep breath.
Although her rendering and brush technique may be rather crude and primitive, her work certainly doesn't suck! Superior composition and more interesting than at least half the stuff posted in the UHH gallery section.
It really comes down to what things you are looking for when analyzing an image.
Ralloh wrote:
Wouldn't it be better for you, as her brother, to kindly point out the flaws and maybe offer suggestions than have some stranger some day tell her she is awful?
Thanks for the advice, but knowing my sister, that would be a mistake. In her case hearing it from strangers would be less painfull. She was always jealous of me while growing up, because I got along better with our parents. (both of us suffered considerable emotional abuse, just less on my part). Her small amount of artistic talent was the one thing that no one else in the family had and I would not want to rain on her parade. She has tried to sell her artwork with no success. I do think it is finally dawning on her that she isn't too good
rook2c4 wrote:
Although her rendering and brush technique may be rather crude and primitive, her work certainly doesn't suck! Superior composition and more interesting than at least half the stuff posted in the UHH gallery section.
It really comes down to what things you are looking for when analyzing an image.
IHMO, you are partially right. Her drawings are better than some of the photos I have seen on UHH. She has a bit of talent; enough to express herself, but at the very most, her level of talent could get her a job as an illustrator of childrens' books. So far, she has had no takers. There are far too many around who can draw at that level
Jim Bob wrote:
If you post it, you own it for good or for ill. Grow up. There is no forum rule that states one can only heap praise on images posted in the gallery. Geesus. What planet are you from?
Actually, there is. It's in the section rules of the Photo Gallery. I quote: "This section is for posting pictures you took. If you want to ask others to comment on your choice of subjects, composition, settings, show off your pictures to others, or ask for general critique, then please do so in the Photo Gallery section."
In other words, critique or criticism in the Photo Gallery is only welcome when requested.
I gotta say that I would prefer constructive criticism on my photos. "Great shot" really does not help me progress. I am in a photo club that has professional come in to evaluate our photos...and it is really helping me. I think we can ignore the "that's a horrible photo" and accept good criticism.
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