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Dec 29, 2016 22:39:19   #
phyprof
 
You definitely are.

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Dec 29, 2016 22:56:50   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
Erik_H wrote:
Both my sons not only know of Buddy Rich, et al, they love them. They are 21 and 25 yrs old. I must be raising them right!


I totally agree. By the way, I heard Buddy Rich live at Carnegie Hall when I was in school in the 70s. My son has an autographed and numbered pair of his drum sticks in a display on his wall. But the most influential, though not the best, drummer of all time was Gene Krupa. He invented the modern drum kit that everyone uses and set a standard for jazz and big band drummers. He had quite a career too. My Sirius radio is on the 40's station 95 % of the time. I still prefer digital to film, but with music, it's a different story.

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Dec 29, 2016 23:16:23   #
phyprof
 
Krupa was awesome. I don't think there is anyone today that comes close to him.

I also prefer film but use other film and digital. My wife and daughter bought me a new iPhone because it had a better camera than my old iPhone. But film has a quality when printed that you don't get from digital.

Isn't it interesting how many "film" presets there are in some of the software, and plugins? Hmmmm!

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Dec 29, 2016 23:24:29   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
phyprof wrote:
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Isn't it interesting how many "film" presets there are in some of the software, and plugins? Hmmmm!

Several Fuji cameras have film simulations built in to them. They are Fuji film presets, naturally. Link HERE.

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Dec 30, 2016 00:02:06   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
phyprof wrote:
Krupa was awesome. I don't think there is anyone today that comes close to him.


Absolutely. He was a superstar. Benny Goodman dumped him when he figured that people were going to his concerts to hear Krupa drumming, and he didn't want to share the glory with anyone. Krupa was the first to use the drums as a solo instrument, both in concert and in recordings. Was he the "best?" Probably not. Buddy Rich was probably the best, at least in the minds of many, but without Krupa, there would have been no Buddy Rich as we remember him. You have to give him all of the credit in the world for innovation and inspiration. Buddy Rich did.

I know this is about cameras, but there's nothing wrong with having a little fun on the side. But I'll tell you what really converted me to digital was buying a Nikon D810 a couple of years ago. I'm in awe of what the camera can do. The 35mm film we used back in the day never captured as much detail as this camera. I mean I'm thinking of replacing most of my inferior lenses, because their flaws are perfectly obvious with this camera.

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Dec 30, 2016 00:47:38   #
phyprof
 
I will try and find a link to an article in Black + White Magazine that talks about this issue of digital and its resolution compared to film. It is an interesting take on this.

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Dec 30, 2016 11:53:31   #
74images Loc: Los Angeles, California
 
therwol wrote:
Film will stay around for as long as it is still manufactured, and that will depend on demand. The demand these days is a tiny fraction of the demand when film cameras were all we had. Many emulsions (Kodachrome being a prime example) have been discontinued. You can no longer find film in most supermarkets outside of some disposable cameras that a few people still buy. You have to order it or buy it in a camera store, if you're lucky enough to find one. Digital has put many camera stores and film processing labs out of business with only a few still standing.

My wife loves old movies. Even though TCM has done a good job of keeping up some interest in these movies, many that were released on DVD in the past are already out of print. I tell her that she has to buy what she can buy now.

I have a 34 year old son who appreciates the music from the 30s, 40s and 50s, thanks to my interest in this music that I listened to growing up. He works as a teacher in a high school. He has never found one student who knows who Buddy Rich was, (his idol), much less Benny Goodman, Glenn Miller, Duke Ellington, Count Basie, Lionel Hampton, Dizzy Gillespie, Frank Sinatra etc. The music of these giants isn't played on the radio any longer except on satellite radio, and Sirius tried to get rid of it just a few years ago. They kept it because of the protests of older listeners, but what happens when they're gone?

The lack of new hardware for film is also a deterrent to its survival. There is still plenty of used equipment out there, but it is aging or even rotting in closets all over the place. But again, the real issue is how long film itself will be manufactured. I don't know, but I suspect not forever. That's the real problem.

I'm guilty of dumping film myself. I have a Nikon FTn and some old lenses that have been sitting in a closet for years. Sad, I suppose, but it's just too hard to deal with using film, and honestly, the Nikon D810 I bought a couple of years ago produces pictures that outshine any film pictures I've ever taken.
Film will stay around for as long as it is still m... (show quote)


You can still find Film at Wal Mart, Walgreens / Rite Aid, CVS, & Walgreens still does Film Developing!

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Dec 30, 2016 17:55:51   #
Emp Loc: new york state nassau county
 
I love the discussion. I get film at CVS and Walgreens. Sometime it is even on sale!!! Taking out my film cameras is a trip down memory lane. I have been doing the same thing with some of my fishing reels from the 1960s. Many great memories!!! Rock On.

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Dec 30, 2016 21:33:29   #
Erik_H Loc: Denham Springs, Louisiana
 
therwol wrote:
I totally agree. By the way, I heard Buddy Rich live at Carnegie Hall when I was in school in the 70s. My son has an autographed and numbered pair of his drum sticks in a display on his wall. But the most influential, though not the best, drummer of all time was Gene Krupa. He invented the modern drum kit that everyone uses and set a standard for jazz and big band drummers. He had quite a career too. My Sirius radio is on the 40's station 95 % of the time. I still prefer digital to film, but with music, it's a different story.
I totally agree. By the way, I heard Buddy Rich l... (show quote)

Gene Krupa is indeed amazing. There is a video on YouTube of him and Buddy Rich playing together on Sammy Davis Jr's show that is really good.
My father had a Rogers drum kit identical to the one that Mr Rich plays in the video. He-my dad, not Mr. Rich-played with a small combo on the weekends when I was a kid and used to take by brother and I to gigs occasionally. Forty years later, my brother has the kit and still plays it.

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Dec 30, 2016 22:56:08   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
Erik_H wrote:
Gene Krupa is indeed amazing. There is a video on YouTube of him and Buddy Rich playing together on Sammy Davis Jr's show that is really good.


I've seen that video. Buddy Rich played far better than Krupa, but Krupa was an old man at that point in time. It was a "passing of the torch" moment. To me it's like watching Sinatra sing past his prime, or Vladimir Horowitz playing in his 80s. You don't care if they didn't have the magic any longer, and you feel lucky that you were able to see them before their passing. By the way, I went to hear Tony Bennett sing around 20 years ago thinking he was getting close to the end of his career. Boy was I wrong about that.

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Jan 4, 2017 13:26:15   #
F15emaddawg
 
No, the Kodak won't do.

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