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May 19, 2012 07:54:23   #
dasloaf
 
I need a little help! I'm working second camera at a wedding and they want indoor pics without flash since their son has autism. We don't have any type of studio lighting to cover the church or the reception hall. Any techniques to use photograph their son?

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May 19, 2012 08:03:44   #
oldmalky Loc: West Midlands,England.
 
My son has autism and the flash is not a problem But each child is different.My daughter hates the flash so we just warn her when a flash is imminent but that is no help to you im afraid.

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May 19, 2012 10:00:31   #
BigDaveMT Loc: Plentywood, MT
 
Fast lenses and raise the ISO?

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May 19, 2012 10:09:27   #
gdwsr Loc: Northern California
 
Ditto BigDave, Expose for the highlights (wedding dress) and fix the shadows in post processing.

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May 19, 2012 14:10:47   #
Festina Lente Loc: Florida & Missouri
 
More use of tripod and leave camera on image burst mode so you can improve your chances catching moments with little movement (due to lower shutter speeds that may be needed).

Also, get an Expodisc (proactive) or an 18% grey card (reactive) so you can get the white balance right (or close).
Indoor wedding photography with the usual multiple light sources (think different colors) screams for checking white balance frequently as you move around the room(s) and the lighting source combos change (unless you want to spend more time guessing and tweaking WB in post processing..... no fun)

Hope that helps. There are always ways....

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May 20, 2012 07:32:09   #
Dawei
 
When I am in this situation I don't use the flash, but put button, the program modes on the left on night scene and also use a tripot, only you are not able to change the ISO. Or I use in P modus f4.5 stop and + - on +0.3 or 7 or let it on 0.0 and a set the ISO ON 400 or 1600 and I get also good pictures, it's only if inside the light in the Church is very well or in the home. I use this with the Nikon D80 and with the D200, but with the D200 sometimes I use the M modes and let the ISO on 400 or more. But always with a tripot. But don't forget to put the White balans button on cloudy. Greetings Hans van Veelen, Dawei.

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May 20, 2012 07:58:50   #
BigDaveMT Loc: Plentywood, MT
 
Dawei wrote:
But don't forget to put the White balans button on cloudy. Greetings Hans van Veelen, Dawei.


I don't understand why you would set your white balance to cloudy if you're shooting inside a church. Can someone explain why?

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May 20, 2012 08:25:40   #
Festina Lente Loc: Florida & Missouri
 
BigDaveMT wrote:
Dawei wrote:
But don't forget to put the White balans button on cloudy. Greetings Hans van Veelen, Dawei.


I don't understand why you would set your white balance to cloudy if you're shooting inside a church. Can someone explain why?


I can't.
But when inside a church with mixed lighting sources, a custom white balance is the best way to go.
I used to use white coffee filters (cheap, small and close), but lately I've been using the dome from my Gary Fong Lightsphere - works so much better, averages peripheral light sources as good or better than and ExpoDisk, and I always have the dome in my bag anyway.

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May 20, 2012 08:29:58   #
BigDaveMT Loc: Plentywood, MT
 
I've played around with the custom white balance a little bit and it does work much better than the factory presets. I've been tempted to get a rig similar to what Festina Lente has.

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May 20, 2012 08:55:08   #
rcrosby825 Loc: Western Maine
 
While there are general traits that describe autistic individuals: repetitive speech and obsessive behaviors, sensory defensiveness, etc., individuals are still just that; individuals. What bothers one, another might handle with ease.
Is there any chance of meeting with the family and doing a trial shoot to see how this youngster responds?
You'll still want a "plan B", because what works on Friday, might not work on Sunday, but you also might find that things are much easier than you expected. Any "prep work" the parents can do to familiarize the child with the setting, people involved, etc. may also be helpful.

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May 20, 2012 09:08:44   #
Dawei
 
I am not a professional, but I read one time that when the light is darker outsite or insite, or artificial light it's good to use the Cloudy or shade option, it give a nice coloring, but I don't like to say it works for every camera, therefore my suggestion was a little to quik, but I use the white balance feature creatively by setting an alternative valeu which does not correspont to the prevailing light and create a deliberate color shift. And I like to tell you it give me nice picture, also when I don't use a flash, greetings Dawei.

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May 20, 2012 10:11:53   #
ricofoto Loc: Adelaide, Australia
 
Something that I often use to avoid the harshness of a flash is a small soft box, about 14 inches wide that fits on my speed light, you can put a diffuser in to cut the light down even more. It weighs very little, just a bit cumbersome though. Rico

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May 20, 2012 10:35:44   #
Iowegan
 
BigDaveMT wrote:
Fast lenses and raise the ISO?


+1..

I know people seem to frown on these, but, the LED light modules seem to offer great promise in situations, just like this.

They're not a flash, technically, but, they do offer controlled lighting in areas, where that's either impossible, or, restricted usage of.

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May 20, 2012 13:23:36   #
CasaLinda Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
 
Festina Lente wrote:
BigDaveMT wrote:
Dawei wrote:
But don't forget to put the White balans button on cloudy. Greetings Hans van Veelen, Dawei.


I don't understand why you would set your white balance to cloudy if you're shooting inside a church. Can someone explain why?


I can't.
But when inside a church with mixed lighting sources, a custom white balance is the best way to go.
I used to use white coffee filters (cheap, small and close), but lately I've been using the dome from my Gary Fong Lightsphere - works so much better, averages peripheral light sources as good or better than and ExpoDisk, and I always have the dome in my bag anyway.
quote=BigDaveMT quote=Dawei But don't forget to ... (show quote)


Festina, I've always been confused as to exactly how these white balance devices work. Tell me how to use my Gary Fong dome for white balance. I know how to set custom white balance in my camera, but how do I use the device? Thanks!

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May 20, 2012 14:18:05   #
mtnredhed Loc: The part of NorCal that doesn't move
 
Festina Lente wrote:
BigDaveMT wrote:
Dawei wrote:
But don't forget to put the White balans button on cloudy. Greetings Hans van Veelen, Dawei.


I don't understand why you would set your white balance to cloudy if you're shooting inside a church. Can someone explain why?


I can't.
But when inside a church with mixed lighting sources, a custom white balance is the best way to go.
I used to use white coffee filters (cheap, small and close), but lately I've been using the dome from my Gary Fong Lightsphere - works so much better, averages peripheral light sources as good or better than and ExpoDisk, and I always have the dome in my bag anyway.
quote=BigDaveMT quote=Dawei But don't forget to ... (show quote)


And of course the issue is that even within the building you could have sunlight coming in through the windows at around 5500, Northern sky at 6500 or higher, incandescent's or warm CFL's at 4500 or less, and some scene's lit by 2 of the 3.

I don't know the actual spectral response of the "white" LED's are. Even a "white" strobe is made up of multiple response peaks and isn't continuous like sunlight or incandescent.

That being said, a lot of the PP programs allow you to apply changes like white balance as a batch process. If you can group your shots to certain areas, you can pull a lot of the tedious work out.

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