An extremely fast Olympus (Page 2): A good professional sports photographer can always pick out a good shot with a camera that has a burst of 10 fps or less. A football reciever...

Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.

A good professional sports photographer can always pick out a good shot with a camera that has a burst of 10 fps or less. A football reciever jumping up to catch a pass, a baseball player sliding home just before the tag. Anything over 10 fps is overkill. This reminds me of the mega pixel wars for most point & shoot cameras 15 or 20 years ago, most camera buyers think more is always better.

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Cdouthitt wrote:

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wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

cjkorb wrote:

A good professional sports photographer can always pick out a good shot with a camera that has a burst of 10 fps or less. A football reciever jumping up to catch a pass, a baseball player sliding home just before the tag. Anything over 10 fps is overkill. This reminds me of the mega pixel wars for most point & shoot cameras 15 or 20 years ago, most camera buyers think more is always better.

But that still doesn't answer the question of why Canon and Nikon require their cameras shoot faster than 10fps. Since most of the cameras at baseball games and football games tend to be Canon and Nikon, that means they are being manned by mostly pros. If the pros didn't need 10fps+, why would Canon and Nikon put it on their cameras? That cost extra money and R&D for both the pros and Canon and Nikon for something you have indicated the true pros don't need.

wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

cjkorb wrote:

A good professional sports photographer can always pick out a good shot with a camera that has a burst of 10 fps or less. A football reciever jumping up to catch a pass, a baseball player sliding home just before the tag. Anything over 10 fps is overkill. This reminds me of the mega pixel wars for most point & shoot cameras 15 or 20 years ago, most camera buyers think more is always better.

Also your statement doesn't answer why all the camera manufactures have been constantly increase the limit on photos before it hits the buffer limit. If the pros can deliver the photo in "a burst of 10 fps or less", why are all the manufactures increasing the buffer limits to fill the cards if necessary? Money is rarely spent by a manufacture unless needed.

jcboy3

Cdouthitt wrote:

I want to step into this new world

https://youtu.be/V5LXNHnbOew

Me too. I'm hoping this new version will solve the AF issues of the E-M1. I just wonder what the noise characteristics are, because you still need high ISO to get high shutter speeds to freeze motion.

Jerrin1 Loc: Wolverhampton, England

rjaywallace wrote:

He's talking about the Olympus O-MD E-M1 in development with EXPECTED release "later this year".

Fortunately, there isn't very much of this year left. I have already enquired about part - exing my two EM1's for an EM1 mark 11 (I unintentionally have three cameras but only need two, so it makes sense to do a two for one). The spec for the mark 11 goes beyond my expectation: I am more than happy.

jcboy3

Jerrin1 wrote:

Fortunately, there isn't very much of this year left. I have already enquired about part - exing my two EM1's for an EM1 mark 11 (I unintentionally have three cameras but only need two, so it makes sense to do a two for one). The spec for the mark 11 goes beyond my expectation: I am more than happy.

It will be "early 2017" before it's available. Giving time to save for it, because it's likely to be expensive.

AntonioReyna Loc: Los Angeles, California

Lots of very interesting announcements in last week, the new Olympus with new Pro lenses, a Fuji 51mp medium format, new Sony A mount full frame, Canon M5 mirrorless, etc. More imaging options than ever before it seems.

ddonlewis

First let me say the specs are impressive. But, when you use the word "pro" you are dealing with the big boys, and as with everything in life there is an over all package you need to win. If you notice in the adds/articles they hide the fact this is a Micro 4/3 camera. If you are serious to fight for the pro business you have to have a bigger sensor. Even an APS-C sensor is 25% bigger. Plus the lens selection for the big boys is beyound compare. Yes, you can try to impress with a few flashy features, but to play in the big league you have to play by the rules of the game. Micro 4/3 will be in the noise level for sales regardless of features unless you have that unique requirement for 60FPS.

jcboy3

ddonlewis wrote:

First let me say the specs are impressive. But, w... (show quote)

Olympus uses the term "PRO" to distinguish its weather sealed cameras/lenses, but then some of it's non-weather sealed lenses are of highest quality (e.g. the 75mm f/1.8). In addition, the E-M5 Mk II in high resolution mode is quite comparable to high resolution 36mm sensors when used in the studio with good light. These are each pushing the limits of older lenses.

As far as what is used for professional photography...there is what works, and what is needed for a "professional image". These days, anyone can have a high resolution 36mm sensor; so for a "professional image" you should go big (by which I mean medium format). As a bonus you get leaf shutters in your lenses.

The new Olympus is getting more pixels, less noise, better focus (looks like much better), faster burst mode with buffers to support it, high resolution mode, and lots more. It's less of an upgrade than a leap. Quite a package, which hopefully means I can take a lighter kit instead of my Nikon gear...but it still doesn't replace it for all uses.

camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.

He's talking about the Olympus O-MD E-M1 in development with EXPECTED release "later this year". Indeed he is. Add Mark II for the new body which also happens to shoot 50 megabytes according to Olympus although the base pixels count is 20.
The new camera will have a large group of focus targets and all of them will be cross hatched. I have no experience using mirrorless cameras for wildlife or action and I use Olympus, to talk about fast and accurate AF. The camera I use often is the EP5 and I do not believe the AF tracking abilities of this little camera is something to write home about. These cameras can shoot so fast because they have no mirror to flip up and down making them faster. I have seen some videos of the new camera and the action photographs made were very well focused and sharp.
As the camera enters the market we should have better and more useful information. I was impressed with the new quality lenses Olympus is offering.

wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

ddonlewis wrote:

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Anyone here will concede that a larger sensor will ultimately do better in low light, but how often does anyone here go beyond 6400 ISO on a regular basis? Even the old Olympus does well at 6400 ISO unless all the reviewers are lying. And are there 85 or more modern lenses for a Canon or Nikon mount each? Plus there are adapters for all the older full frame lenses. Yes, Olympus is trying to play with the "big boys" and with this new camera they just might start making a dent. For $6000 I can get three lenses (14mm to 300 at f2.8 in 35mm terms) and a body, all weather and dust sealed, for the same price as a Canon or Nikon body that doesn't shoot that much different or better and a much lighter and smaller package. I want to shoot smart, not expensive.

Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI

ddonlewis wrote:

First let me say the specs are impressive. But, w... (show quote)

Why does it matter what someone else shoots, if they are able to achieve the results their clients want.

Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI

ddonlewis wrote:

First let me say the specs are impressive. But, w... (show quote)

Exceeds aps-c dslrs

http://www.43rumors.com/setsuya-kataoka-of-olympus-says-e-m1ii-image-quality-is-better-than-any-aps-c-dslr-on-market/

n3eg Loc: West coast USA

They said they couldn't make the IS any better than 6.5 stops because of limitations due to the rotation of the earth.