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Jul 30, 2016 15:41:14   #
kd7eir Loc: Tucson, AZ
 
rehess wrote:
Such a list.

Ever since MS became so sneaky with Win 10 installation, this computer has been set up so I must approve every update, so I'm aware of every time Windows Defender is told of something new to watch for, namely almost daily, so I'm guessing that the Windows list would be at least as long.

Al least with Linux, the O/S itself doesn't act like Malware.



It is much easier to destroy your data in Linux than it is in Windows. This command rm -rf / will erase your entire root directory, all other directories, plus any attached or mapped hard drives, and it will do so without prompting you for permission. And when you delete from the terminal in Linux, there is no "recycle bin"

And if think that people do not type rm -rf / by accident, then you've never had to support Linux users.

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Jul 30, 2016 16:37:39   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Independencenorm wrote:
Even at 84, a MAC is easy to learn to use. Windows is a poor copy of the Mac graphic interface, many more steps to do the same thing.


What surprised me is how easy and fast (and free) it is to load a new OS on a Mac and start from scratch again.

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Jul 30, 2016 16:39:51   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
kd7eir wrote:
It is much easier to destroy your data in Linux than it is in Windows. This command rm -rf / will erase your entire root directory, all other directories, plus any attached or mapped hard drives, and it will do so without prompting you for permission. And when you delete from the terminal in Linux, there is no "recycle bin"

And if think that people do not type rm -rf / by accident, then you've never had to support Linux users.
I have been system manager on several UNIX systems ... but fortunately never encountered that problem. Back when we were running a PDP-11, my assistant did completely wipe the only disk, however.

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Jul 30, 2016 18:51:08   #
Jer Loc: Mesa, Arizona
 
I upgraded my Windows 8 and my portable Windows 7 machines to 10. I really enjoy Windows 10. It works great far better than what I thought. I really would not want to go back.

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Jul 30, 2016 23:02:31   #
pixbyjnjphotos Loc: Apache Junction,AZ
 
kd7eir wrote:
If you think you are safe from viruses on Linux I have a beachfront house for sale in Tucson you might be interested in.

The use of an operating system is directly correlated to the interest by the malware writers to develop malware for that OS - as more people use Linux, more malware will be written for it.

In people's minds, if it's non-Windows, it's secure, and that's not the case. They think nobody writes malware for Linux or Mac OS X. But that's not true.

Buffer overruns, trojan horses, web scripts, cross platform viruses, worms, botnets, rootkits, - ALL of these and many more have variants that are targeted specifically to Linux systems.

I know of at least 20 companies that sell anti-virus software for Linux, and make a very tidy sum of money doing so.

Here's a quick list of some of the nastier and more common malware that attacks Linux systems, and only a couple of them require root privileges -

Botnets

Mayhem - 32/64-bit Linux/FreeBSD multifunctional botnet
Linux/Remaiten - A threat targeting the Internet of Things.

Rootkits

Snakso-A - 64-bit Linux webserver rootkit


Trojans

Effusion - 32/64-bit injector for Apache/Nginx webservers
Hand of Thief - Banking trojan, 2013,
Kaiten - Linux.Backdoor.Kaiten trojan horse
Rexob - Linux.Backdoor.Rexob trojan
Waterfall screensaver backdoor - on gnome-look.org
Tsunami.gen — Backdoor.Linux.Tsunami.gen
Turla — HEUR:Backdoor.Linux.Turla.gen
Xor DDoS A Trojan malware that hijacks Linux systems and uses them to launch DDoS attacks which have reached loads of 150+ Gbps.


Viruses


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Arches
Alaeda - Virus.Linux.Alaeda
Binom - Linux/Binom
Bliss - requires root privileges
Brundle
Bukowski
Caveat
Coin
Diesel - Virus.Linux.Diesel.962
Hasher
Kagob a - Virus.Linux.Kagob.a
Kagob b - Virus.Linux.Kagob.b
Lacrimae (aka Crimea)
Linux.Encoder.1
MetaPHOR (also known as Simile)
Nuxbee - Virus.Linux.Nuxbee.1403
OSF.8759
PiLoT
Podloso - Linux.Podloso (The iPod virus)
RELx
Rike - Virus.Linux.Rike.1627
RST - Virus.Linux.RST.a (known for infecting Mozilla Suite and Thunderbird)
Satyr - Virus.Linux.Satyr.a
Staog
Vit - Virus.Linux.Vit.4096
Winter - Virus.Linux.Winter.341
Winux (also known as Lindose and PEElf)
Wit virus
Zariche - Linux.Zariche.A (and variants)
ZipWorm - Virus.Linux.ZipWorm


Worms

Adm - Net-Worm.Linux.Adm
Adore
Bad Bunny - Perl.Badbunny
Cheese - Net-Worm.Linux.Cheese
Devnull
Kork
Linux/Lion
Linux.Darlloz - Targets home routers, set-top boxes, security cameras and industrial control systems
Linux/Lupper.worm
Mighty - Net-Worm.Linux.Mighty
Millen - Linux.Millen.Worm
Ramen worm - targeted only Red Hat Linux distributions versions 6.2 and 7.0
Slapper
SSH Bruteforce
If you think you are safe from viruses on Linux I ... (show quote)


What you say may be true especially the part of the Linux community being a very small percentage of the total number of computer users. However, I am not sure where all those viruses for Linux are or reside. My son is Linux certified and between him and myself we have been from corner to corner of the internet using Linux. Neither one of us use any anti-virus, anti-malware, software. Between us we have over seven years of heavy usage. Neither one of us has ever contracted any kind of virus or malware. I cannot say the same for my windows computers. My son is an IT specialist and works for a high priority, highly visible, highly important part of a state government working to provide internet and wifi capability for that state government. Those workers all use Linux to get their jobs done on time. They have don't have time to wait on Windows. Everything they do with all that high powered equipment is accomplished much faster, cheaper, and easier with Linux. In fact it does some things Windows won't do without high cost programs. Have a GREAT DAY!

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Jul 30, 2016 23:14:50   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
kd7eir wrote:
It is much easier to destroy your data in Linux than it is in Windows. This command rm -rf / will erase your entire root directory, all other directories, plus any attached or mapped hard drives, and it will do so without prompting you for permission. And when you delete from the terminal in Linux, there is no "recycle bin"

And if think that people do not type rm -rf / by accident, then you've never had to support Linux users.


Years ago, when NOAA was implementing the CLASS system for the distribution of satellite weather data nationally, an inexperienced admin did exactly that, wiping out 384TB of data that it had taken months to mirror to a DR location. Fortunately, there was another copy of the data, but it set the program back several months.

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Jul 31, 2016 10:18:43   #
harryd Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
I took the plunge to beat the deadline. So far everything is working flawlessly.
I'm 63 and no computer geek. I think waiting might have given them time to
correct problems. You do have to use your brain dealing with slight changes in finding
things but it doesn't hurt and it won't make you cry.

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Jul 31, 2016 10:54:20   #
1Feathercrest Loc: NEPA
 
"Slight changes"? Bull....! I waste more time trying to find things on 10 than I did on Vista or 7 where things were only a click away.

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Jul 31, 2016 11:00:20   #
harryd Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
1Feathercrest wrote:
"Slight changes"? Bull....! I waste more time trying to find things on 10 than I did on Vista or 7 where things were only a click away.


Ha! It's a brave new world, you gotta learn to deal with it. Keep on rolling, roll with the changes!

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