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Jul 10, 2016 07:41:53   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
DaveO wrote:
Love the composition and B/W was a must!


How do you know B/W was a must? Did you see the original color?

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Jul 10, 2016 11:20:46   #
AZNikon Loc: Mesa, AZ
 
I love this shot!

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Jul 10, 2016 14:21:05   #
SuKai Loc: California
 
abc1234 wrote:
I think it is still too dark and lacks a fuller tonal range. LR will not give you anymore than PS will. You do not need both and depending upon the original file, you might have been able to do the whole thing in LR. Funny how someone took a Magic Marker and wrote on the bench between edits. Prefer it without the graffiti. This is a really good photo and could use some more TLC. I would have preferred more of the garbage can, a sad counterpoint, and less of the out-of-focus brick on the right.

Thanks for posting this nice picture. No significant unwanted elements. Like how you got the right "pose". Compositionally, this picture works for me. The developing does not but that is just my opinion.
I think it is still too dark and lacks a fuller to... (show quote)


I appreciate your point of view the original does have the entire trash can I just cropped it closer to get the rule of 3rds and focus more on the man. I had to laugh the "graffiti" is just my watermark, I have 2 copies one with and one without, I must have grabbed the watermarked copy when I did my first adjustment. I'm still tweaking it, trying suggested edits and different adjustments until I end up with the right one. Thanks for looking

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Jul 10, 2016 14:21:57   #
SuKai Loc: California
 
bobbennett wrote:
I love this shot!


Thank You

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Jul 10, 2016 14:39:29   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
Biker_Chic wrote:
I appreciate your point of view the original does have the entire trash can I just cropped it closer to get the rule of 3rds and focus more on the man. I had to laugh the "graffiti" is just my watermark, I have 2 copies one with and one without, I must have grabbed the watermarked copy when I did my first adjustment. I'm still tweaking it, trying suggested edits and different adjustments until I end up with the right one. Thanks for looking
I appreciate your point of view the original does ... (show quote)


Screw the rule of thirds. Good composition probably violates it more than it honors it. Do what looks best to you. I feel very strongly about having a full tonal range to the extent the file can give it to you. Do not oversharpen. What you call a watermark is merely your copyright. A watermark is entirely different. Keep us up to date with your efforts.

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Jul 10, 2016 15:14:27   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
abc1234 wrote:
Screw the rule of thirds. Good composition probably violates it more than it honors it. Do what looks best to you. I feel very strongly about having a full tonal range to the extent the file can give it to you. Do not oversharpen. What you call a watermark is merely your copyright. A watermark is entirely different. Keep us up to date with your efforts.

I absolutely agree about arbitrarily using the Rule Of Thirds (ROT). It's a learning tool for use in the classroom, but it is big mistake to use it by rote and by note when composing an image for capture. The right way to compose is to look in the viewfinder and adjust camera location for perspective and the focal length for framing to get what works best (in your opinion). Concentrate more on effective symmetry than about where the 1/3rd lines are at! "Effective" symmetry means take into account the effect of object placement, not just a yardstick measurement of where it is located. Light objects, for example, usually have more weight than equal size dark objects.

I differ from abc1234 in that I don't want to see more of the garbage can at left or less of the stone at right. Cutting them each in half worked extremely well to deemphasize them as a distraction. If anything, maybe crop both of them entirely out. But not entirely in.

The images presented were significantly over sharpened. And I see no purpose in putting a copyright mark (or just a signature in this case) on an image. Put something in the Exif data and/or put a border around it and put the copyright notice and maybe a title on the border but not on the image itself.

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Jul 10, 2016 16:31:38   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
Apaflo wrote:
...I differ from abc1234 in that I don't want to see more of the garbage can at left or less of the stone at right. Cutting them each in half worked extremely well to deemphasize them as a distraction. If anything, maybe crop both of them entirely out. But not entirely in....


I think we have to go back to the original file and play around with the cropping to decide. I am afraid if with crop both out, the bench will not have enough room around it but more sides can be added in PS.

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Jul 16, 2016 16:03:59   #
jack schade Loc: La Pine Oregon
 
Very nice. Great composition and nice light. Most of all it has impact.

Jack

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