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Jun 30, 2016 14:34:32   #
Drdale55 Loc: Prescott, AZ
 
Hi All,
I like this shot, but I think I need to do something to make him/her stand out more. I tried to darken the sky with the HSL panel in LR but I get a blue cast around the neck. Suggestions would be appreciated.
Nikon D500, Nikkor 200-600 f5.6
1/500 sec, f5.6, ISO 320 Shot at 320mm and cropped.

Thanks,
Dale


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Jun 30, 2016 14:48:40   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
I would lighten the shadows and darken the highlights and then add midtone contrast. I do not use LR - I use Elements.

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Jun 30, 2016 14:57:51   #
DAMcCoy
 
In light room you could add something you add some vingetting. You don't need much it will darken the sky and around the edges and draw attention to the eagle in the middle of the photo.

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Jun 30, 2016 15:15:32   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Drdale55 wrote:
Hi All,
I like this shot, but I think I need to do something to make him/her stand out more. I tried to darken the sky with the HSL panel in LR but I get a blue cast around the neck. Suggestions would be appreciated.
Nikon D500, Nikkor 200-600 f5.6
1/500 sec, f5.6, ISO 320 Shot at 320mm and cropped.

Thanks,
Dale


Lots of things you can do but this is a good moment to reflect on why the bird is that dark.

The meter in the camera saw the dark areas and light areas and "averaged them" so that neither were way off. That means that the bird will be slightly darker than you'd like it to be.

So if you think about that for next time, you need to say to yourself "Ok...dark bird against a very light sky, I should over expose just a bit" and then dial in 1 stop of exposure compensation or open up a stop or whatever the method is to do that on your particular camera.

Thinking like this will really benefit all of your photography, not just the next bird shot.

Having said that, a nice vignette would help along with a bit of shadow control brushed into the bird. (Lightroom)

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Jun 30, 2016 15:47:16   #
Drdale55 Loc: Prescott, AZ
 
rpavich wrote:
Lots of things you can do but this is a good moment to reflect on why the bird is that dark.

The meter in the camera saw the dark areas and light areas and "averaged them" so that neither were way off. That means that the bird will be slightly darker than you'd like it to be.

So if you think about that for next time, you need to say to yourself "Ok...dark bird against a very light sky, I should over expose just a bit" and then dial in 1 stop of exposure compensation or open up a stop or whatever the method is to do that on your particular camera.

Thinking like this will really benefit all of your photography, not just the next bird shot.

Good point. I have my camera set up with one of the function buttons to switch to spot metering from matrix. But having just walked around a corner to find him just posing there all good sense went out the window. Here is one with vingetting and shadow lightening with adjustment brush. I think it helps. Thanks.

Having said that, a nice vignette would help along with a bit of shadow control brushed into the bird. (Lightroom)
Lots of things you can do but this is a good momen... (show quote)


Strange, my comments didn't show up ... trying again. I do have my camera set up with one of the function buttons to switch to spot metering rather than matrix. Unfortunately coming around the corner and finding him posing right there and all good sense left for the moment. The new image is with a vingette and adjustment brush to shadows. I think it helps. Thanks.
Dale


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Jun 30, 2016 15:48:26   #
Drdale55 Loc: Prescott, AZ
 
imagemeister wrote:
I would lighten the shadows and darken the highlights and then add midtone contrast. I do not use LR - I use Elements.



Thanks, see another attempt.
Dale

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Jun 30, 2016 15:49:23   #
Drdale55 Loc: Prescott, AZ
 
DAMcCoy wrote:
In light room you could add something you add some vingetting. You don't need much it will darken the sky and around the edges and draw attention to the eagle in the middle of the photo.


See new attempt, I think that did help. Thanks,
Dale

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Jun 30, 2016 16:13:29   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
I think it looked good before, and after a bit of editing that you did it looks better. Good job overall no matter what.

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Jun 30, 2016 16:56:41   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
What you did is a minor improvement - you still need midtone contrast increase and I would also take blue out of the midtones ......sorry, I am not a LR user......

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Jun 30, 2016 21:56:04   #
Drdale55 Loc: Prescott, AZ
 
imagemeister wrote:
What you did is a minor improvement - you still need midtone contrast increase and I would also take blue out of the midtones ......sorry, I am not a LR user......


One more go here. Posting it so I can compare since I (go ahead admit it) changed the previous rather than making a copy and working on it. I know, bad!!

Thank you all for your comments .... Step one expose original correctly! :)

Dale


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Jul 1, 2016 08:07:12   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Drdale55 wrote:
One more go here. Posting it so I can compare since I (go ahead admit it) changed the previous rather than making a copy and working on it. I know, bad!!

Thank you all for your comments .... Step one expose original correctly! :)

Dale


Not bad in Lightroom. You just hit reset and start over.

If you want to take the time your first idea of dakening the sky was good. You might be able to eliminate the halo by reducing sharpening or clarity. Or you could use the brush instead of the HSL panel.

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Jul 1, 2016 08:19:28   #
Dick Moon
 
Add a light vignette all around to draw eyes of viewer into the main subject

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Jul 1, 2016 08:34:57   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Dick Moon wrote:
Add a light vignette all around to draw eyes of viewer into the main subject


I usually use the radial filter to increase exposure and clarity of the eye. About 50% feathering.

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Jul 1, 2016 08:36:57   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
I'd like to see him have a little more room on the left, where he's looking, but that's a moot point unless you've cropped the photo.

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Jul 1, 2016 08:38:19   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
rpavich wrote:
Lots of things you can do but this is a good moment to reflect on why the bird is that dark.

The meter in the camera saw the dark areas and light areas and "averaged them" so that neither were way off. That means that the bird will be slightly darker than you'd like it to be.

So if you think about that for next time, you need to say to yourself "Ok...dark bird against a very light sky, I should over expose just a bit" and then dial in 1 stop of exposure compensation or open up a stop or whatever the method is to do that on your particular camera.

Thinking like this will really benefit all of your photography, not just the next bird shot.

Having said that, a nice vignette would help along with a bit of shadow control brushed into the bird. (Lightroom)
Lots of things you can do but this is a good momen... (show quote)


With a Nikon easiest to routinely use spot metering on wildlife.

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