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Jun 4, 2016 10:04:46   #
DrWilk Loc: .
 
In two days, many here on the forum will commemorate the Allied invasion of Normandy, also known as D-day. For those of you who learned your history from, "Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers, The Longest Day," and other assorted movies, the landing force was actually made up of roughly equal numbers of American and British Commonwealth soldiers attacking at five beaches along a 50 mile stretch of French coastline. From East to West the beaches are: Sword-British, Juno-Canadian, Gold-British, Omaha-US, and Utah-also US.

It is an event that took place during the training for the landing at Utah beach that I am relating here. A tragic event that was kept hidden from the troops and public during the war and for a long time afterwards.

On the South coast of Devon lies a lagoon and a beach. This beach was chosen by the American Army as the site for training of the troops for the invasion of Normandy due to its resembalnce to Utah Beach. For several days in late April, 1944, 300 ships and over 30,000 American soldiers and sailors practised and rehearsed their part in the invasion. There were the normal screwups that occur during any rehearsal, whether military or otherwise, but nothing major. Until the night of April 27th. On that night, the 6th of a planned 7 rehearsals were due to take place, complete with tanks and a artillery barrage.

At around 2a.m. nine German fast-attack boats spotted the ships circling in the bay and attacked. The only defence was a British Corvette which attempted to warn the American ships. Unfortunately, due to an error in radio frequencies they couldn't raise them. The shore batteries had also spotted the attacking boats but were ordered not to open fire because it would reveal their positions.

Three of the landing ships were hit by torpedoes with one severally damaged and two sunk taking many soldiers and sailors down with them. Because of poor training, many men were wearing their lifejackets around their waists instead of their chests and when they were inflated, the soldiers were flipped upside down and drowned.

The final tally was 198 sailors and seamen dead and a further 552 soldiers dead,and 89 wounded or otherwise injured from burns and broken bones. The ironic thing was that this death tally far exceeded the tally incurred during the actualattack of Utah Beach just 5 weeks later. In order to keep the Germans from learning about the invasion, the bodies were quickly buried and all mention of the tragedy was hushed up until after the war.

I realize this forum is an unusual place for another history lesson but I also realize that a very large number of readers are interested in the subject. I hope you don't mind me indulging myself.

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Jun 4, 2016 10:20:03   #
sidney Loc: London.Eng.
 
Very interesting subject for me.I did not know that.. was in the D-Day landing.now 90 and still
enjoying my Photography. wish I had a Camera those days.

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Jun 4, 2016 10:23:05   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Seems I recall this coming up in an episode of Foyle's War. Very tragic. Also, who in the heck prohibited the shore batteries from firing? I hope he was court martialed.

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Jun 4, 2016 10:26:19   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
sidney wrote:
Very interesting subject for me.I did not know that.. was in the D-Day landing.now 90 and still
enjoying my Photography. wish I had a Camera those days.


Thanks for your service. You must have a story to tell!!

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Jun 4, 2016 11:07:47   #
Bushpilot Loc: Minnesota
 
DrWilk wrote:
In two days, many here on the forum will commemorate the Allied invasion of Normandy, also known as D-day. For those of you who learned your history from, "Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers, The Longest Day," and other assorted movies, the landing force was actually made up of roughly equal numbers of American and British Commonwealth soldiers attacking at five beaches along a 50 mile stretch of French coastline. From East to West the beaches are: Sword-British, Juno-Canadian, Gold-British, Omaha-US, and Utah-also US.

It is an event that took place during the training for the landing at Utah beach that I am relating here. A tragic event that was kept hidden from the troops and public during the war and for a long time afterwards.

On the South coast of Devon lies a lagoon and a beach. This beach was chosen by the American Army as the site for training of the troops for the invasion of Normandy due to its resembalnce to Utah Beach. For several days in late April, 1944, 300 ships and over 30,000 American soldiers and sailors practised and rehearsed their part in the invasion. There were the normal screwups that occur during any rehearsal, whether military or otherwise, but nothing major. Until the night of April 27th. On that night, the 6th of a planned 7 rehearsals were due to take place, complete with tanks and a artillery barrage.

At around 2a.m. nine German fast-attack boats spotted the ships circling in the bay and attacked. The only defence was a British Corvette which attempted to warn the American ships. Unfortunately, due to an error in radio frequencies they couldn't raise them. The shore batteries had also spotted the attacking boats but were ordered not to open fire because it would reveal their positions.

Three of the landing ships were hit by torpedoes with one severally damaged and two sunk taking many soldiers and sailors down with them. Because of poor training, many men were wearing their lifejackets around their waists instead of their chests and when they were inflated, the soldiers were flipped upside down and drowned.

The final tally was 198 sailors and seamen dead and a further 552 soldiers dead,and 89 wounded or otherwise injured from burns and broken bones. The ironic thing was that this death tally far exceeded the tally incurred during the actualattack of Utah Beach just 5 weeks later. In order to keep the Germans from learning about the invasion, the bodies were quickly buried and all mention of the tragedy was hushed up until after the war.

I realize this forum is an unusual place for another history lesson but I also realize that a very large number of readers are interested in the subject. I hope you don't mind me indulging myself.
In two days, many here on the forum will commemora... (show quote)



I have read various accounts of this little known operation in the past, an example of how many small mistakes can add up to a major tragedy. Thanks for sharing.

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Jun 4, 2016 11:09:29   #
Bushpilot Loc: Minnesota
 
SteveR wrote:
Seems I recall this coming up in an episode of Foyle's War. Very tragic. Also, who in the heck prohibited the shore batteries from firing? I hope he was court martialed.


Foyle's War, one of the best series ever on television.

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Jun 4, 2016 11:12:36   #
hiker60 Loc: Northern Idaho
 
Thanks for sharing this little known story.

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Jun 4, 2016 11:36:30   #
PhotoPhred Loc: Cheyney, Pa
 
Quite a story, very sad. Thanks for sharing this.

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Jun 4, 2016 11:45:22   #
twr25 Loc: New Jersey
 
The British had several badly planned attacks. Diep was a test of amphibious landing. But the planners picked a beach with ten foot walls on three sided with German gun turrets on the four corners and machine guns all around. Half the 5000 man landing force was killed. Two or three small tank were landed with no way to possibly get off beach. The four gun turrets were not shelled prior to the attack so the tanks were hit immediately. They said ut was a valuable lesson in amphibious warfare. Operation Market Garden was another. First the battle plan was captured when a small plane went down a week or so before the attack; so the Germans knew the details in advance. There was no way to reinforce the paratroopers due to the roads being elevated thru muddy farms. The relief columns were hit in front and back trapping them on the road as easy targets. Complete disaster.

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Jun 4, 2016 13:56:11   #
DrWilk Loc: .
 
The attack on Dieppe, although in some ways a disaster did teach the allies a number of valuable lessons which were implimented later on. As for the plans for Market Garden having been known by the Germans ahead of the attack, there is no evidence to support this. The primary failure of the entire plan was that it was too ambitious for the number of men available. The number of bridges that they needed to capture and do so quickly was simply too many and the failure of the 82nd Airborne to grasp the importance of capturing the bridge at Nijmegen proved to be a major error on their part.

twr25 wrote:
The British had several badly planned attacks. Diep was a test of amphibious landing. But the planners picked a beach with ten foot walls on three sided with German gun turrets on the four corners and machine guns all around. Half the 5000 man landing force was killed. Two or three small tank were landed with no way to possibly get off beach. The four gun turrets were not shelled prior to the attack so the tanks were hit immediately. They said ut was a valuable lesson in amphibious warfare. Operation Market Garden was another. First the battle plan was captured when a small plane went down a week or so before the attack; so the Germans knew the details in advance. There was no way to reinforce the paratroopers due to the roads being elevated thru muddy farms. The relief columns were hit in front and back trapping them on the road as easy targets. Complete disaster.
The British had several badly planned attacks. Die... (show quote)

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Jun 5, 2016 05:51:18   #
lateron Loc: Yorkshire, England
 
DrWilk wrote:
In two days, many here on the forum will commemorate the Allied invasion of Normandy, also known as D-day. For those of you who learned your history from, "Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers, The Longest Day," and other assorted movies, the landing force was actually made up of roughly equal numbers of American and British Commonwealth soldiers attacking at five beaches along a 50 mile stretch of French coastline. From East to West the beaches are: Sword-British, Juno-Canadian, Gold-British, Omaha-US, and Utah-also US.

It is an event that took place during the training for the landing at Utah beach that I am relating here. A tragic event that was kept hidden from the troops and public during the war and for a long time afterwards.

On the South coast of Devon lies a lagoon and a beach. This beach was chosen by the American Army as the site for training of the troops for the invasion of Normandy due to its resembalnce to Utah Beach. For several days in late April, 1944, 300 ships and over 30,000 American soldiers and sailors practised and rehearsed their part in the invasion. There were the normal screwups that occur during any rehearsal, whether military or otherwise, but nothing major. Until the night of April 27th. On that night, the 6th of a planned 7 rehearsals were due to take place, complete with tanks and a artillery barrage.

At around 2a.m. nine German fast-attack boats spotted the ships circling in the bay and attacked. The only defence was a British Corvette which attempted to warn the American ships. Unfortunately, due to an error in radio frequencies they couldn't raise them. The shore batteries had also spotted the attacking boats but were ordered not to open fire because it would reveal their positions.

Three of the landing ships were hit by torpedoes with one severally damaged and two sunk taking many soldiers and sailors down with them. Because of poor training, many men were wearing their lifejackets around their waists instead of their chests and when they were inflated, the soldiers were flipped upside down and drowned.

The final tally was 198 sailors and seamen dead and a further 552 soldiers dead,and 89 wounded or otherwise injured from burns and broken bones. The ironic thing was that this death tally far exceeded the tally incurred during the actualattack of Utah Beach just 5 weeks later. In order to keep the Germans from learning about the invasion, the bodies were quickly buried and all mention of the tragedy was hushed up until after the war.

I realize this forum is an unusual place for another history lesson but I also realize that a very large number of readers are interested in the subject. I hope you don't mind me indulging myself.
In two days, many here on the forum will commemora... (show quote)


I know this beach and the surrounding area, Legend has it that a u-boat (U17 - Gunther Prien) was responsible for the carnage, and not E Boats. Which version is best believed?

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Jun 5, 2016 06:42:32   #
kellyjr
 
lateron wrote:
I know this beach and the surrounding area, Legend has it that a u-boat (U17 - Gunther Prien) was responsible for the carnage, and not E Boats. Which version is best believed?


Gunther Prien was lost with his Uboat and crew in 1941. All the evidence and survivors' statements point to E Boats as the attackers.

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Jun 5, 2016 07:41:33   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
DrWilk wrote:
I realize this forum is an unusual place for another history lesson but I also realize that a very large number of readers are interested in the subject. I hope you don't mind me indulging myself.


Not inappropriate at all. especially since it's in Chit-Chat.

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Jun 5, 2016 08:00:55   #
lone ranger Loc: Port Saint Lucie, Florida
 
truly very Interesting.please continue......

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Jun 5, 2016 08:53:10   #
lateron Loc: Yorkshire, England
 
kellyjr wrote:
Gunther Prien was lost with his Uboat and crew in 1941. All the evidence and survivors' statements point to E Boats as the attackers.


I stand corrected, according to the reports at the time, Gunther Prien, who commanded U.47 NOT U17,died in the Atlantic in 1941 and the damage caused during Operation Tiger WAS caused by Schnellbooten "fast Boats", Nicknamed "E" boats by the Allies
The "E" was understood to stand for "enemy". I was a frequent visitor to Slapton Sands, (From a cottage opposite Salcombe).

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