Are You Better Off With DX
May 15, 2016 10:47:52 #
RRS wrote:
Or better yet, longer glass, 400mm f/2.8, 500mm f/4.0 or 600mm f/4.0.
Its been covered in an earlier post.
May 15, 2016 10:57:47 #
RRS
Loc: Not sure
joer wrote:
Its been covered in an earlier post.
Thanks, I'm with you. I have all the glass I'll ever need or want. Now I can get picky about a new body and in my case it's either the 1 DX or the 1 DX II.
May 15, 2016 11:12:28 #
joer wrote:
Your point is well taken. br br I said earlier i... (show quote)
For bird photography, the D500 is killer. I'm getting far more keepers with my D500 than I did my D810. Here are just a few from the D500, tons more to go through:
(Obviously click download for the better version)
May 15, 2016 11:39:34 #
Steve Perry wrote:
For bird photography, the D500 is killer. I'm getting far more keepers with my D500 than I did my D810. Here are just a few from the D500, tons more to go through:
(Obviously click download for the better version)
(Obviously click download for the better version)
Great captures with the D500, Steve! What lens did you use for these?
will
May 15, 2016 11:58:22 #
Steve Perry wrote:
For bird photography, the D500 is killer. I'm getting far more keepers with my D500 than I did my D810. Here are just a few from the D500, tons more to go through:
(Obviously click download for the better version)
(Obviously click download for the better version)
Great images.
May 15, 2016 12:29:09 #
Soul Dr. wrote:
Great captures with the D500, Steve! What lens did you use for these?
will
will
Thanks - most were the 600 F4 VR, the first one with the skimmer grabbing after a minnow was the 300 PF. The shot of the skimmer coming right at the camera was the 600 + 1.4TC III.
May 15, 2016 12:29:20 #
May 15, 2016 12:58:44 #
RRS
Loc: Not sure
Steve Perry wrote:
Thanks - most were the 600 F4 VR, the first one with the skimmer grabbing after a minnow was the 300 PF. The shot of the skimmer coming right at the camera was the 600 + 1.4TC III.
That 600mm f/4.0 is one great lens! The 300mm f/2.8 is good too but there was enough IC loss with the 2x to warrant the purchase of the 600mm. The IC with the FF is great but not enough FPS so for BIF the crop works best for me. As Joer has implied, different tools for different jobs. There's very little IC loss with the 1.4 TC with either lens.
May 15, 2016 13:11:04 #
RRS wrote:
That 600mm f/4.0 is one great lens! The 300mm f/2.8 is good too but there was enough IC loss with the 2x to warrant the purchase of the 600mm. The IC with the FF is great but not enough FPS so for BIF the crop works best for me. As Joer has implied, different tools for different jobs. There's very little IC loss with the 1.4 TC with either lens.
Agreed - one more thing to add...
One thing people don't consider is that using a TC can also affect AF speed and reliability. With the crop camera, I need the TC way less than I do with my FF bodies, so I get to enjoy faster, more reliable AF in tricky situations (that I would have had to attach a TC with an FX body). And like you say, when you need the reach, you can add that TC to you crop camera and really bring 'em in!
May 15, 2016 13:19:44 #
At the risk of beating a dead horse I have added one more image. The D500 uncropped on the left and D810 cropped to 4800x3200.
In my opinion the left one seems to have slightly more resolving power but the other has more appeal to me.
Both appear very good.
In my opinion the left one seems to have slightly more resolving power but the other has more appeal to me.
Both appear very good.
May 15, 2016 13:23:02 #
mas24
Loc: Southern CA
The D500 is no slouch. There is an issue with aftermarket battery compatibility. The D7100/7200 were supreme as DX top dogs. Not anymore. The addition of the XQD card and 4K video makes this a desired camera to own. Since I already have DX lenses, owning a D500 will spare me the expense of buying new FX lenses should I upgrade to the lesser expensive D610 or future D620? The D810 full frame, 36 megapixels camera is in a different class. Compare the body cost between a D500 and D810? Yes, FX lenses can be used on DX cameras with good results.
May 15, 2016 13:23:33 #
Steve Perry wrote:
Just this quick one - make sure you download the i... (show quote)
You cropped the D810 and it's out of focus. What's fair about that comparison.
You can't manipulate one shot and not the other.
Craig
May 15, 2016 13:29:51 #
CraigFair wrote:
You cropped the D810 and it's out of focus. What's fair about that comparison.
You can't manipulate one shot and not the other.
Craig
You can't manipulate one shot and not the other.
Craig
The D810 shot isn't out of focus - it was shot in DX mode and focused via Live View. From there, it was upsized to see if it would deliver the same clarity as the D500, it doesn't. It simply doesn't have the resolving power in DX mode. The upshot is that if I'm making an enlargement, I'd be better off with a D500 then a D810 in DX crop mode.
On the other hand, had the 810 been in full frame mode (and moved closer for the same framing), the D810 would have easily beat the D500, but that wasn't the point of that particular comparison. I don't think anyone would argue that at full frame the D810 will resolve more detail. The point was to see if the D810 was as good / better / worse at a DX crop then the D500. The D500 is better in DX (which makes sense since it's higher resolution 21MP vs 15MP).
May 15, 2016 15:17:05 #
Joe,
I agree with some of the comments made regarding FX format. Additionally, there are inherent noise issues with less than full frame sensors. These issues are documented elsewhere. Additionally, I posted an article in which this characteristic was discussed. http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/user-page?upnum=1537 .
Given a choice, I'd want an FX camera anytime.
It is entirely possible that you are just trying to convince yourself that the smaller format camera is just as good in order to avoid the expense of an FX camera.
--Bob
I agree with some of the comments made regarding FX format. Additionally, there are inherent noise issues with less than full frame sensors. These issues are documented elsewhere. Additionally, I posted an article in which this characteristic was discussed. http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/user-page?upnum=1537 .
Given a choice, I'd want an FX camera anytime.
It is entirely possible that you are just trying to convince yourself that the smaller format camera is just as good in order to avoid the expense of an FX camera.
--Bob
joer wrote:
I've been wrestling with the decision to buy a D50... (show quote)
May 15, 2016 15:33:37 #
Thanks for all the comparisons. Still makes me want to buy a D500. I will rent one 1st to make sure the high ISO's are at least a few stops better than my D750. I shoot at events that I swear the parents watching the games have to be using night vision glasses!
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