My Information on the cloud? No thanks.
Apr 16, 2016 11:36:53 #
Microsofts suit focuses on the storage of data on remote servers, rather than locally on people's computers, which Microsoft says has provided a new opening for the government to access electronic data.
Using the Electronic Communications Privacy Act (ECPA), the government is increasingly directing investigations at the parties that store data in the so-called cloud, Microsoft says in the lawsuit. The 30-year-old law has long drawn scrutiny from technology companies and privacy advocates who say it was written before the rise of the commercial Internet and is therefore outdated.
People do not give up their rights when they move their private information from physical storage to the cloud, Microsoft says in the lawsuit. It adds that the government has exploited the transition to cloud computing as a means of expanding its power to conduct secret investigations.
Using the Electronic Communications Privacy Act (ECPA), the government is increasingly directing investigations at the parties that store data in the so-called cloud, Microsoft says in the lawsuit. The 30-year-old law has long drawn scrutiny from technology companies and privacy advocates who say it was written before the rise of the commercial Internet and is therefore outdated.
People do not give up their rights when they move their private information from physical storage to the cloud, Microsoft says in the lawsuit. It adds that the government has exploited the transition to cloud computing as a means of expanding its power to conduct secret investigations.
Apr 16, 2016 13:45:45 #
EX-TELCO wrote:
I am so ignorant as to the facts and ongoing legal battles in this realm! Thank you for posting this as a Topic, even if no one else responds. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Microsofts suit focuses on the storage of data on remote servers, rather than locally on people's computers, which Microsoft says has provided a new opening for the government to access electronic data.
Using the Electronic Communications Privacy Act (ECPA), the government is increasingly directing investigations at the parties that store data in the so-called cloud, Microsoft says in the lawsuit ...
Using the Electronic Communications Privacy Act (ECPA), the government is increasingly directing investigations at the parties that store data in the so-called cloud, Microsoft says in the lawsuit ...
lev29 8-)
Apr 17, 2016 07:30:04 #
f8bengal
Loc: West Nawth Carolinah
However, now I hear that CD storage is going out and there may be no other options. I still use little floppy discs, with a separate reader I plug in, but you can't buy those puppies any more either.
Apr 17, 2016 07:31:15 #
EX-TELCO wrote:
Microsofts suit focuses on the storage of data on... (show quote)
The insidious power of secret government. I lived for two years in a military dictatorship which tracked individuals, censored information and tried to control people's private lives. Our government is MOSTLY open to challenge, but certain parts like the NSA, CIA, FBI, etc. insist on knowing everything.
I'm not a Apple product fan, but I do cheer on Apple in their fight to keep the government out of our personal business. We must not destroy democracy in our fear. We have to beat terrorism while maintaining our American values, otherwise they win.
Apr 17, 2016 07:53:40 #
zigipha
Loc: north nj
f8bengal wrote:
However, now I hear that CD storage is going out and there may be no other options. I still use little floppy discs, with a separate reader I plug in, but you can't buy those puppies any more either.
I've got hundreds in my basement for the taking....
Apr 17, 2016 09:23:25 #
f8bengal wrote:
However, now I hear that CD storage is going out and there may be no other options. I still use little floppy discs, with a separate reader I plug in, but you can't buy those puppies any more either.
Well, the fact is CDs actually degrade over time anyway, so you don't want to store things on them long term. Same is true for magnetic media - anyone who has important data stored on floppy disks ought to check them periodically to see if the data is still there...
Since external hard drives are so cheap nowadays, the alternative to the cloud for storage is to make copies onto at least one external drive, then store one of the drives at a separate location (so if your house collapses or is sucked up in a tornado, etc., you can go to the bank vault or the office or your mom's house or wherever to retrieve the latest backup you keep there).
Apr 17, 2016 09:35:29 #
f8lee wrote:
Well, the fact is CDs actually degrade over time anyway, so you don't want to store things on them long term. Same is true for magnetic media - anyone who has important data stored on floppy disks ought to check them periodically to see if the data is still there...
I had data disappear in 6 mo. on floppys. When I checked it was gone gone gone. Luckily it was only a boot disc for win98 and I dumped windows in 2001!
Apr 17, 2016 12:43:14 #
Even though CDRs have a limited life span, it is longer than any other convenient medium I can think of. Certainly any magnetic medium, particularly a complex one like a hard drive may not last as long, particularly if not stored properly. A thumb drive may have long term potential, but again, needs careful storage for long term stability. At my age, my data on CDs will outlive me. If I were a lot younger, I would still use CDs and rewrite them every 20 years or so, or rewrite them with whatever is the "best" medium around at that time.
Apr 17, 2016 13:57:08 #
You're right about CD's degrading, however you can still buy archival CD's that should last "a long time", whatever that is. No, you can't buy archival DVD's, the DVD format doesn't support adequate redundancy for long-term storage.
In the mean time 4 Terabyte drives are pretty cheap (always have pairs of course) and by the time I fill that up, the 8 Terabyte drives should be affordable :-)
In the mean time 4 Terabyte drives are pretty cheap (always have pairs of course) and by the time I fill that up, the 8 Terabyte drives should be affordable :-)
Apr 17, 2016 15:06:57 #
f8bengal
Loc: West Nawth Carolinah
jct842 wrote:
I had data disappear in 6 mo. on floppys. When I checked it was gone gone gone. Luckily it was only a boot disc for win98 and I dumped windows in 2001!
I still use floppys for files updated every month. I make changes, add new data, and then "save" and tell it to overwrite. Does that not rewrite the whole file and therefore "refresh" what is magnetically written on the floppy? I am not very geekish, and don't want to lose any more data. Thanks!!
Apr 17, 2016 16:25:18 #
[quote=Reinaldokool]The insidious power of secret government. I lived for two years in a military dictatorship which tracked individuals, censored information and tried to control people's private lives. Our government is MOSTLY open to challenge, but certain parts like the NSA, CIA, FBI, etc. insist on knowing everything.
I'm not a Apple product fan, but I do cheer on Apple in their fight to keep the government out of our personal business. We must not destroy democracy in our fear. We have to beat terrorism while maintaining our American values, otherwise they win.[/quote
Well, I look at it this way.......it's illegal to sell or buy a loaded bazooka in the U.S., so the idea that a company must have a "look see", a "back door", whatever you want to call it in cases of national security is okay with me.
I'm not a Apple product fan, but I do cheer on Apple in their fight to keep the government out of our personal business. We must not destroy democracy in our fear. We have to beat terrorism while maintaining our American values, otherwise they win.[/quote
Well, I look at it this way.......it's illegal to sell or buy a loaded bazooka in the U.S., so the idea that a company must have a "look see", a "back door", whatever you want to call it in cases of national security is okay with me.
Apr 17, 2016 16:56:54 #
CaltechNerd wrote:
You're right about CD's degrading, however you can still buy archival CD's that should last "a long time", whatever that is. No, you can't buy archival DVD's, the DVD format doesn't support adequate redundancy for long-term storage.
In the mean time 4 Terabyte drives are pretty cheap (always have pairs of course) and by the time I fill that up, the 8 Terabyte drives should be affordable :-)
In the mean time 4 Terabyte drives are pretty cheap (always have pairs of course) and by the time I fill that up, the 8 Terabyte drives should be affordable :-)
CDs, not CD's. Plural not possessive. '70s, not 70's. 1980s, not 1980's.
Apr 17, 2016 16:59:54 #
EX-TELCO wrote:
Microsofts suit focuses on the storage of data on... (show quote)
Well, if it worries you then just make sure and encrypt all your kiddie porn before you upload it!
Apr 17, 2016 17:04:47 #
f8bengal wrote:
I still use floppys for files updated every month. I make changes, add new data, and then "save" and tell it to overwrite. Does that not rewrite the whole file and therefore "refresh" what is magnetically written on the floppy? I am not very geekish, and don't want to lose any more data. Thanks!!
It is still OK to use floppy diskettes, just make an additional copy of important files just in case. Floppies are magnetic media that actually does wear out only because the read/write heads make physical contact with the disk.
Maybe you should consider having and using a USB port on your computer.
Apr 17, 2016 17:27:42 #
Earworms wrote:
CDs, not CD's. Plural not possessive. '70s, not 70's. 1980s, not 1980's.
Right you are, thanks!
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