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Mar 14, 2016 15:17:19   #
windshoppe Loc: Arizona
 
From p 55 of Canon SX50 User Manual:

"Focal length when optical and digital zoom are combined is as follows (35 mm equivalent) 24-4800 (24-1200mm with optical zoom alone)"

While I have not visited the Canon web site there is obviously some disconnect here. On my camera I have the digital zoom inactive and am getting what I assume to be an optical zoom of 24 - 1200.

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Mar 14, 2016 15:25:36   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
Julian wrote:
The data shows the actual focal length of the lens with its max of 215mm. You must multiply by a factor of 5.6 to obtain the 35mm format equivalent! No digital enlargement in this case.


Crop factor = digital enlargement.

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Mar 14, 2016 15:40:43   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
Haydon wrote:
Don't mind WessoJPEG. He has an axe to grind seemingly with the SX50. I've captured several images that are surprisingly good and I also use a full-frame canon. The SX50 requires GOOD light to perform at it's prime. Without understanding it's limitation, it can be disappointing. Light truly is the key to any image.


I think this is the reason for wesso's hatred for the sx50.

"Had one for a week. Went to review photos. An icon popped up saying unidentifiable subject. The it proceeded to wipe out all my pictures. Boxed it up and returned it to canon for a refund. Plastic Toy. "

Guess if he can't get anywhere with it they must be shockingly bad :)

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Mar 14, 2016 16:10:20   #
ggttc Loc: TN
 
windshoppe wrote:
From p 55 of Canon SX50 User Manual:

"Focal length when optical and digital zoom are combined is as follows (35 mm equivalent) 24-4800 (24-1200mm with optical zoom alone)"

While I have not visited the Canon web site there is obviously some disconnect here. On my camera I have the digital zoom inactive and am getting what I assume to be an optical zoom of 24 - 1200.


I stand corrected...yep that is what the manual says.

And after trying it various modes it does go out to 1200mm.

Now I am just going to my room and sulk a little.

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Mar 14, 2016 16:43:05   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
cameranut wrote:
I received my Canon 50x hs camera on the 9th., one day ahead of schedule. It seems to be in working order but I was expecting a lot more zoom than what I seem to be getting. Correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure someone will) My hide is tough so tell me what I'm doing wrong. I was under the impression that 50x meant "50" times closer to your subject. A bird at 50' away would appear to be 1' or thereabout. I am a pretty good judge of distance since I made a habit of measuring off 20' intervals and marking them with dowels. These Mockingbirds were taken at 50x and 100x. They are straight out of camera. I was standing about 50-60' from the bird. I'm not sure if I'm going to keep this camera or send it back. Something doesn't seem quite right, but then again I've been known to flub up. :roll: Thanks for any input and or suggestions.
I received my Canon 50x hs camera on the 9th., one... (show quote)


Hard to tell without seeing the 1x image...

bwa

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Mar 14, 2016 16:56:41   #
Haydon
 
blackest wrote:

Guess if he can't get anywhere with it they must be shockingly bad :)


Thanks for that, almost lost my coffee!

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Mar 14, 2016 18:01:46   #
jamesl Loc: Pennsylvania
 
cameranut wrote:
I thought 50x was 1200mm. When the lens is extended all the way out it reads 1200mm. That would be the optical zoom and anything over that would be the digital zoom. You can tell that math is not my area of expertise (not that I have one) :?


You are right, the 1200 mm is optical zoom. Full (max) digital zoom takes the reach to 4800 mm equivalency.

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Mar 14, 2016 21:04:03   #
georgeretired Loc: Manitoba Canada
 
My SX50HS has become my back up / walk around camera when I don't want to carry the weight of a camera and lens but will provide me with some awesome shots providing I set the camera and use with care. IF you change from RAW to JPEG you will get an additional close up. I've taken pictures from several miles away using this camera and it's had to tell what the difference is between that and a $4,000 camera and long lens.

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Mar 14, 2016 22:24:23   #
cameranut Loc: North Carolina
 
Bobspez wrote:
The 50x is 50 times your lowest focal length. On a camera with a wide angle of 24mm (full frame equivalent), your highest focal length will be 50 times 24 = 1200mm.
Since a focal length of 50mm (full frame equivalent) is equal wo what the eye sees, each additional 50mm will be equal to the magnification x you are thinking of. So a 1200mm lens divided by 50 = 24x magnification. If the bird is 60 ft away, you are getting 24x magnification (not 50x magnification) so the bird would appear 60 divided by 24 = 2 1/2 feet away, which it does. There's nothing wrong with your camera, it is just the marketing terminology that leads people to believe the 50x is 50 times magnification, which it is not. This is like when they advertise a "One inch sensor" the sensor is actually about 1/2 inch wide x 1/3 inch high.
The 50x is 50 times your lowest focal length. On a... (show quote)


Your explanation is the clearest one I have received so far. I may never fully understand the mechanisms of any electronic equipment. I look at it this way: if I can get good results without having to spend a lot of time in pp. I'll be happy. Thank you for your taking the time to respond to my post with detailed info. Much appreciated.

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Mar 14, 2016 23:42:33   #
grillingjoe Loc: virginia
 
i tend to agree with derbiemeister. both photos look great.

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Mar 15, 2016 00:42:46   #
windshoppe Loc: Arizona
 
ggttc wrote:
I stand corrected...yep that is what the manual says.

And after trying it various modes it does go out to 1200mm.

Now I am just going to my room and sulk a little.


I do it all the time...good for the soul. Thanks for your input.

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Mar 15, 2016 02:26:38   #
Lazy Old Coot Loc: Gainesville, Florida
 
ggttc, I'm sitting in front of my computer with my SX50 in my hands. When I extend the lens to the full optical zoom length the calibration mark on the lens barrel reads 1200, not 600!!! That's 1200mm OPTICAL zoom, not digital. Either your lens is for some reason not fully extending to the to the long end of it's optical range or you're simply not reading the calibrations correctly. ....... Coot

ggttc wrote:
Well...turn the camera on and set the zoom to 50x...then look on the barrel of the lens...it will stop at 600mm...this is the edge of optical zoom...if you push the lens farther out it will go into digital...at 100x the lens barrel will indicate 1200mm...

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Mar 15, 2016 04:32:54   #
TucsonCoyote Loc: Tucson AZ
 
Lazy Old Coot wrote:
ggttc, I'm sitting in front of my computer with my SX50 in my hands. When I extend the lens to the full optical zoom length the calibration mark on the lens barrel reads 1200, not 600!!! That's 1200mm OPTICAL zoom, not digital. Either your lens is for some reason not fully extending to the to the long end of it's optical range or you're simply not reading the calibrations correctly. ....... Coot

......he said he went to his room to eat dirt.....what more do you want ! :XD:

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Mar 15, 2016 13:18:50   #
lovitlots Loc: Tottenham, Ontario, Canada
 
The camera is a 50x zoom, not a 50x magnification. It goes from 24mm wide angle to 1200mm telephoto. So at one you'll be able to shoot some wide angle shots such as indoor group photos with less than 1x magnification and long Telephoto shots with roughly 24x magnification from a standard 50mm lens. Don't get the terms mixed up. When a lens states 50x zoom, it's referring to the change in focal length and not the change in magnification. Well you are getting the same in magnification but you have to remember you're going through wide angle to normal at one end and from normal to long telephoto at the other. You're camera is fine.

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Mar 15, 2016 13:24:20   #
cameranut Loc: North Carolina
 
DerBiermeister wrote:
I guess I am not quite as exacting as you are ........ IMO, the bird in the first shot appears to be approx. 1 foot from the camera. And you said you were 50 ft away. Plenty good for me. And I too liked the 100 zoom image. And it is pretty much twice the zoom of the 50 - you can tell by measuring the diameter thickness of the vertical branch to the left of the bird's tail.

What's not to like? I think the two zooms are doing exactly as advertised.


Sorry I'm so late getting back to you. Actually, after giving this camera a good work out at daylight this morning, I am finding a few things to "not like", such as the very slow focus. By the time the lens comes out and you locate your subject through the viewfinder or led window, then zoom in, half press the shutter------the bird is loooooong gone. If there are no objects between you and your subject, such as tree limbs, twigs, then you can get focused on your bird in a few seconds. Of course a few seconds can cost you the shot if the birds are extremely wild, nervous and fast. That seems to be the only kind I can see. This camera would be ideal if using at a zoo, reserve, or some other confined area or on tame or semi tame birds that are accustomed to seeing and hearing people. In order to get shots like Tony Britton got, you would have to be about 50-60' from large size birds at 50x unless you do a major crop and I don't want to crop heavily on a 12 megapixel camera. The closest I can get to the birds I have some access to is about 350-450'. They are truly wild and trust humans about as far as they can throw one. :-)

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