Can't believe this is 50 and 100x
Mar 13, 2016 14:48:55 #
I received my Canon 50x hs camera on the 9th., one day ahead of schedule. It seems to be in working order but I was expecting a lot more zoom than what I seem to be getting. Correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure someone will) My hide is tough so tell me what I'm doing wrong. I was under the impression that 50x meant "50" times closer to your subject. A bird at 50' away would appear to be 1' or thereabout. I am a pretty good judge of distance since I made a habit of measuring off 20' intervals and marking them with dowels. These Mockingbirds were taken at 50x and 100x. They are straight out of camera. I was standing about 50-60' from the bird. I'm not sure if I'm going to keep this camera or send it back. Something doesn't seem quite right, but then again I've been known to flub up. :roll: Thanks for any input and or suggestions.
Mar 13, 2016 14:55:21 #
Mar 13, 2016 15:02:38 #
WessoJPEG wrote:
Send it back.
That's kinda what I have in mind to do. Thank you for responding so fast. :-)
Mar 13, 2016 15:07:48 #
That camera appears to have a 24mm to 1200mm - 35mm equivalent focal length. That is 50x.
Now if we say 50mm is about what we see naturally, then a 50x would be a 2500mm focal length.
So I think your expectation is that the bird would be about twice the size you are seeing at the 50x pics.
Although there are jpg artifacts, the 100x isn't that bad given that's a 2400mm equivalent for that camera. The 50x I think is really good. I can't do anything that good with any DSLR and glass in my arsenal.
Now if we say 50mm is about what we see naturally, then a 50x would be a 2500mm focal length.
So I think your expectation is that the bird would be about twice the size you are seeing at the 50x pics.
Although there are jpg artifacts, the 100x isn't that bad given that's a 2400mm equivalent for that camera. The 50x I think is really good. I can't do anything that good with any DSLR and glass in my arsenal.
Mar 13, 2016 15:21:38 #
UtahBob wrote:
That camera appears to have a 24mm to 1200mm - 35m... (show quote)
Thank you for your response Bob. You are right about expecting a bit larger / closer appearance on the first photo. The 100x can be denoised and fixed so that it would pass my critical inspection and the IS on this camera is superb since these are hand held. I have a few more days to make up my mind. I'll know more after testing on some larger water birds at a cove I'm visiting. It does have slow focus and chromatic aberration though. Not good.
Mar 13, 2016 15:28:47 #
cameranut wrote:
I received my Canon 50x hs camera on the 9th., one... (show quote)
I guess I am not quite as exacting as you are ........ IMO, the bird in the first shot appears to be approx. 1 foot from the camera. And you said you were 50 ft away. Plenty good for me. And I too liked the 100 zoom image. And it is pretty much twice the zoom of the 50 - you can tell by measuring the diameter thickness of the vertical branch to the left of the bird's tail.
What's not to like? I think the two zooms are doing exactly as advertised.
Mar 13, 2016 15:29:36 #
cameranut wrote:
Thank you for your response Bob. You are right about expecting a bit larger / closer appearance on the first photo. The 100x can be denoised and fixed so that it would pass my critical inspection and the IS on this camera is superb since these are hand held. I have a few more days to make up my mind. I'll know more after testing on some larger water birds at a cove I'm visiting. It does have slow focus and chromatic aberration though. Not good.
Hand held? Wow, I'm impressed. I don't really follow this breed of cameras so I don't know if there is something better out there. The CA is a drawback especially with white birds but you could test software correction of that to see if it is a keeper.
Mar 13, 2016 15:43:32 #
DerBiermeister wrote:
I guess I am not quite as exacting as you are ........ IMO, the bird in the first shot appears to be approx. 1 foot from the camera. And you said you were 50 ft away. Plenty good for me. And I too liked the 100 zoom image. And it is pretty much twice the zoom of the 50 - you can tell by measuring the diameter thickness of the vertical branch to the left of the bird's tail.
What's not to like? I think the two zooms are doing exactly as advertised.
What's not to like? I think the two zooms are doing exactly as advertised.
Yes, there is dramatic difference in the two photos. I would have to shoot in 100x to get the magnification I would like though. It will create some noise but Topaz denoise does a pretty good job. I am going to conduct some more test shots comparing my Canon sx20 to this one. I may post those results later if it quits raining. Thank you for your response and opinions.
Mar 13, 2016 15:49:46 #
UtahBob wrote:
Hand held? Wow, I'm impressed. I don't really follow this breed of cameras so I don't know if there is something better out there. The CA is a drawback especially with white birds but you could test software correction of that to see if it is a keeper.
Yes, the IS ability blew me away. Could be because I'm used to hand holding my dslr with the Sigma 150-500., but at 100x! Amazing. I was expecting a blurry mess. As for the CA, I will try to avoid dark subjects against a blown out sky.
Mar 13, 2016 17:12:32 #
Just to expand a bit on the meaning of the 50X. This is the zoom ratio of the lens not the magnification (like it would be for binoculars or a telescope). Cameranut was applying the 'formula' used for magnification which would not apply to the zoom ratio when the lens starts with a wide angle focal length.
On a side note the SX50 is a very popular camera with birders who don't want to lug around a DSLR and 400mm or 500mm lens (like I do :) ). They like the ability to get good photos of birds that they can't identify in the field or to document a rare sighting.
On a side note the SX50 is a very popular camera with birders who don't want to lug around a DSLR and 400mm or 500mm lens (like I do :) ). They like the ability to get good photos of birds that they can't identify in the field or to document a rare sighting.
Mar 13, 2016 18:03:28 #
rwilson1942 wrote:
Just to expand a bit on the meaning of the 50X. Th... (show quote)
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Mar 13, 2016 18:23:16 #
We have had an sx50 since they first came out...We are now shooting a d7100 with a 150-600 Tam and and d810 with a nikkor 200-500. I will say in front of everybody that is the best $400 I have spent on camera equipment.
At 50x zoom it is the equivalent of a 600 mm dslr lens...a bit more reach than a sigma 150-500
At full digital zoom it is the equivalent of a 1200mm dslr lens
At 50x zoom it is the equivalent of a 600 mm dslr lens...a bit more reach than a sigma 150-500
At full digital zoom it is the equivalent of a 1200mm dslr lens
Mar 13, 2016 22:20:03 #
ggttc wrote:
We have had an sx50 since they first came out...We are now shooting a d7100 with a 150-600 Tam and and d810 with a nikkor 200-500. I will say in front of everybody that is the best $400 I have spent on camera equipment.
At 50x zoom it is the equivalent of a 600 mm dslr lens...a bit more reach than a sigma 150-500
At full digital zoom it is the equivalent of a 1200mm dslr lens
At 50x zoom it is the equivalent of a 600 mm dslr lens...a bit more reach than a sigma 150-500
At full digital zoom it is the equivalent of a 1200mm dslr lens
I thought 50x was 1200mm. When the lens is extended all the way out it reads 1200mm. That would be the optical zoom and anything over that would be the digital zoom. You can tell that math is not my area of expertise (not that I have one) :?
Mar 13, 2016 22:28:21 #
rwilson1942 wrote:
Just to expand a bit on the meaning of the 50X. Th... (show quote)
That is precisely why I ordered it. The Sigma 150-500 gets a bit heavy when on long hikes especially when going up or down steep hills when there are wet leaves on the ground. I'm not quite as sure footed as I was 40-50 years ago. I gotta admit, Tony Britton's bird photos was a deciding factor though. Thank you for responding and commenting.
Mar 13, 2016 22:56:37 #
When camera manufacturer say a lens is 100x zoom they mean that it has the zoom ratio of 100 that is the longest focal length divided by the shortest focal length is 100.
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