Have restrictions on photographing National Parks changed (Page 2): 36 CFR 5.5 - Commercial photography. (b) Still photography. The taking of photographs of any vehicle, or other...

Tjohn Loc: Inverness, FL formerly Arivaca, AZ

36 CFR 5.5 - Commercial photography.
(b) Still photography. The taking of photographs of any vehicle, or other articles of commerce or models for the purpose of commercial advertising without a written permit from the Superintendent is prohibited.
? Articles of commerce?
That should cover it. Thanks, I had totally let the CFRs fly out of my head.

Tjohn Loc: Inverness, FL formerly Arivaca, AZ

I think the wrappers kind of disappeared, for the most part.

Tjohn Loc: Inverness, FL formerly Arivaca, AZ

rmalarz wrote:

Don't tell them your intent.
--Bob

That's when they send in the SWAT team. :lol:

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

Tjohn wrote:

Bing (microsoft) has a photo contest of National parks. Have the restrictions on commercial (?) photography changed? There is no mention of restrictions in the rules: http://bingrewards.icgrouplp.com/Content/Documents/Parks_Photo_Contest_Official_Rules.pdf

If you are a pro, as you indicate you are, then you are a poor example of one. A PRO does there homework, takes no chances, calls ahead to check on permission and requirements. Anyone who comes here and asks for info that you are asking for is not a commercial photographer. Or, your a want to be, which is worse.

Bill_de Loc: US

billnikon wrote:

If you are a pro, as you indicate you are, then you are a poor example of one. A PRO does there homework, takes no chances, calls ahead to check on permission and requirements. Anyone who comes here and asks for info that you are asking for is not a commercial photographer. Or, your a want to be, which is worse.

He never indicated he was a pro, so no reason for insults. One of his questions was if you are shooting for a prize and the photo is then used commercially, would you be shooting as a pro.

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bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada

SharpShooter wrote:

Why would a contest shot be commercial?!
Are you gonna come in with a Uhaul full of Hollywood hot-lights and an army of HOT Models?!?! :lol:
SS

They might have restrictions on the "HOT Models"? I guess it all depends on how HOT...

bwa

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

Bill_de wrote:

He never indicated he was a pro, so no reason for insults. One of his questions was if you are shooting for a prize and the photo is then used commercially, would you be shooting as a pro.

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Commercial is pro, either way money is involved, and copywriting, model releasing, etc. Still requires investigation on HIS part, which, according to his post, he is unable to do.

neilds37 Loc: Port Angeles, WA

billnikon wrote:

Commercial is pro, either way money is involved, and copywriting, model releasing, etc. Still requires investigation on HIS part, which, according to his post, he is unable to do.

Read the CFR wording. Money involved does not enter into the definition. It concerns photographing objects for sale in advertising with the National Park setting.

Bill_de Loc: US

billnikon wrote:

Commercial is pro, either way money is involved, and copywriting, model releasing, etc. Still requires investigation on HIS part, which, according to his post, he is unable to do.

So he asked for help to which you replied with insults.

You da man! :thumbup: ;)

neilds37 Loc: Port Angeles, WA

billnikon wrote:

Commercial is pro, either way money is involved, and copywriting, model releasing, etc. Still requires investigation on HIS part, which, according to his post, he is unable to do.

You are the one who needs to investigate before making wild guesses as to what the regulation is/means. Sorry for being blunt, but some people sure come up with wild notions without knowing anything about what they are talking about.

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

neilds37 wrote:

Read the CFR wording. Money involved does not enter into the definition. It concerns photographing objects for sale in advertising with the National Park setting.

It still requires him to make PERSONAL inquiring on his part, not ours. This is my point.

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

neilds37 wrote:

You are the one who needs to investigate before making wild guesses as to what the regulation is/means. Sorry for being blunt, but some people sure come up with wild notions without knowing anything about what they are talking about.

He must make the inquiries. It is not up to us.

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

Bill_de wrote:

So he asked for help to which you replied with insults.

You da man! :thumbup: ;)

It requires him to take some initiative. Not us.

neilds37 Loc: Port Angeles, WA

billnikon wrote:

He must make the inquiries. It is not up to us.

He did once he had a source. Lighten up!

He asked for help, and as far as I'm concerned that is no crime, nor breach of normal etiquette.

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

neilds37 wrote:

He did once he had a source. Lighten up!

He asked for help, and as far as I'm concerned that is no crime, nor breach of normal etiquette.

No, the easy way out is not a breach of normal etiquette. And laziness is not a crime, you are correct, I completely agree with your post.