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Feb 11, 2016 01:37:44   #
Bruce M Loc: Northern Utah
 
One thing I do that You might try if your camera has the feature is to put it on auto ISO then turn the speed up on the shutter as is mentioned in other responses here

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Feb 11, 2016 01:59:07   #
Dziadzi Loc: Wilkes-Barre, PA
 
Bruce M wrote:
One thing I do that You might try if your camera has the feature is to put it on auto ISO then turn the speed up on the shutter as is mentioned in other responses here


Thanks, Bruce.

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Feb 11, 2016 09:21:05   #
Meives Loc: FORT LAUDERDALE
 
Double post. Sorry

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Feb 11, 2016 09:21:28   #
Meives Loc: FORT LAUDERDALE
 
[quote=Dziadzi]You are at the max for shutter speed. Formula is 1/mm lens = shutter speed. Lens is 200 mm so speed should be 1/200 or faster. This could add a slight blur. You have an excellent lens of f 2.8, but I would tighten this to f 8 for more DOF (depth of field). This would require ISO to Max more than you have.

This type of photography is hard to get great pictures. In our hockey arena with have strobe lights on the center score board and the pro photographers can use the strobe with a transmitter on their cameras. If you could get your boy when he stops it may help. David



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Feb 11, 2016 09:32:36   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
I'm a firm believer in shooting sports action wide open, or close to it, as this produces a photo with the subject in sharp focus and the rest, including the spectators, blurred. This is, at least, my goal. I always recommend to folks wanting to get better at sports that one absolute essential for their camera bag is a subscription to Sports Illustrated. Every issue should be studied to determine the "how to". YMMV.

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Feb 11, 2016 09:35:21   #
lowkick Loc: Connecticut
 
[quote=Meives]
Dziadzi wrote:
You are at the max for shutter speed. Formula is 1/mm lens = shutter speed. Lens is 200 mm so speed should be 1/200 or faster. This could add a slight blur. You have an excellent lens of f 2.8, but I would tighten this to f 8 for more DOF (depth of field). This would require ISO to Max more than you have.

This type of photography is hard to get great pictures. In our hockey arena with have strobe lights on the center score board and the pro photographers can use the strobe with a transmitter on their cameras. If you could get your boy when he stops it may help. David
You are at the max for shutter speed. Formula is ... (show quote)


The formula of shutter speed equaling the length of the lens is used as a guide to reduce or eliminate the effects of shake, but does not take into consideration the speed of movement of the subject. You need a minimum of 1/250th of a second for sports action and will probably need a lot more shutter speed than that.

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Feb 11, 2016 13:05:47   #
Dziadzi Loc: Wilkes-Barre, PA
 
[quote=Meives]
Dziadzi wrote:
You are at the max for shutter speed. Formula is 1/mm lens = shutter speed. Lens is 200 mm so speed should be 1/200 or faster. This could add a slight blur. You have an excellent lens of f 2.8, but I would tighten this to f 8 for more DOF (depth of field). This would require ISO to Max more than you have.

This type of photography is hard to get great pictures. In our hockey arena with have strobe lights on the center score board and the pro photographers can use the strobe with a transmitter on their cameras. If you could get your boy when he stops it may help. David
You are at the max for shutter speed. Formula is ... (show quote)


Thanks, Meives!

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Feb 11, 2016 13:07:17   #
Dziadzi Loc: Wilkes-Barre, PA
 
lowkick wrote:
The formula of shutter speed equaling the length of the lens is used as a guide to reduce or eliminate the effects of shake, but does not take into consideration the speed of movement of the subject. You need a minimum of 1/250th of a second for sports action and will probably need a lot more shutter speed than that.


Thanks, Ira!

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Feb 11, 2016 15:28:44   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
lowkick wrote:
The formula of shutter speed equaling the length of the lens is used as a guide to reduce or eliminate the effects of shake, but does not take into consideration the speed of movement of the subject. You need a minimum of 1/250th of a second for sports action and will probably need a lot more shutter speed than that.


That's true if your using max telephoto all the time. When I use my 70-200mm I find that most are in the 135mm range for my crop sensor camera. When I feel like it, the speed goes slower as in for non action shots.

It would be less as the mm length gets less. Most action shots require fast camera action, so I'd guess the 1/250 sec is a good minimum.

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Feb 11, 2016 16:13:28   #
PaulR01 Loc: West Texas
 
Dziadzi wrote:
I took some shots tonight of my eldest playing high school basketball. This is my first attempt at using my Tamron 70-200mm VC without a flash. I would like opinions as to what I could have done to improve the clarity of Collin's face. I went with f2.8 (Aperature Priority). The camera caused the camera to shoot @ 1/200, and I had the ISO set @ 1600. I did toy around with higher ISO's, but I still did not find great facial clarity in those photos. Any thoughts you might have are appreciated. Thanks!
I took some shots tonight of my eldest playing hig... (show quote)

If you have an external flash you can shot off camera with it and a transmitter and receiver or use it on camera. Bounce it off the ceiling. It will really bring out the highlights and help with focusing in servo mode

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Feb 11, 2016 21:40:43   #
Dziadzi Loc: Wilkes-Barre, PA
 
GENorkus wrote:
That's true if your using max telephoto all the time. When I use my 70-200mm I find that most are in the 135mm range for my crop sensor camera. When I feel like it, the speed goes slower as in for non action shots.

It would be less as the mm length gets less. Most action shots require fast camera action, so I'd guess the 1/250 sec is a good minimum.


Thanks, GE!

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Feb 11, 2016 21:42:10   #
Dziadzi Loc: Wilkes-Barre, PA
 
PaulR01 wrote:
If you have an external flash you can shot off camera with it and a transmitter and receiver or use it on camera. Bounce it off the ceiling. It will really bring out the highlights and help with focusing in servo mode


Thanks, Paul, but I don't know if the school allows flash during games (or the State athletic association for that matter).

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Feb 12, 2016 00:33:45   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
Dziadzi wrote:
Thanks, Paul, but I don't know if the school allows flash during games (or the State athletic association for that matter).


Don't get carried away with using a flash!

Most, repeat most, collage and above do not allow a flash!

High School basketball games generally will but it's best to ask an official prior.

The flash can attract a player's attention away from the game or possibly blind them temporarily, so they claim.

Most high schools don't seem to care about a flash except at the finals, some times. (Parents do what they want.)
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Also, I just covered a high school basketball game a few hours ago. I thought I'd try a lower speed as suggested even though it was against my normal ways. (Haven't done that since analog days.)

I did some at 1/320 and even tried 1/250. For those I had some motion blur of the fingers and very little elsewhere depending on the players motion. It does work but I'm personally not really happy with under 1/400 speed.

Till later.

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Feb 12, 2016 00:50:54   #
Dziadzi Loc: Wilkes-Barre, PA
 
Thanks everyone. When I shoot the next game, I am going to try to use manual mode, 1/500, f2.8, ISO 2000, to start and adjust accordingly. I will post them after the weekend as the basketball club is having a tournament.

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Feb 12, 2016 13:41:47   #
Meives Loc: FORT LAUDERDALE
 
Dziadzi wrote:
Thanks everyone. When I shoot the next game, I am going to try to use manual mode, 1/500, f2.8, ISO 2000, to start and adjust accordingly. I will post them after the weekend as the basketball club is having a tournament.


I agree you should try these camera settings. ISO today are much cleaner than before. Max out the ISO as far as you can go on some test shots and see what it does. David

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