Am I the only one
Jan 28, 2016 13:38:29 #
It is yet another tool to help the photographer capture the image he or she wants, CLOSER to the way he or she envisions it.
No different than Autofocus or detachable lenses.
Multiple focus points is a TOOL.
No different than Autofocus or detachable lenses.
Multiple focus points is a TOOL.
Jan 28, 2016 13:40:01 #
SharpShooter wrote:
You guys sound like old fashion boring shooters. W... (show quote)
Sir. no offense but photographers are far from "boring"(or inept photographers)! But more like those that have creative urges that are looking for a way to express them. What is a "old fashion boring shooters".
Jan 28, 2016 13:56:25 #
boberic wrote:
All the various makers brag about the number and configuration of their focus points. I find the both distracting and not at all helpful. As a result I use center spot focus as well as spot metering in my 7d. Am I the only and what,if anything , am I missing. I come from 4 or 5 decades of film with split image film focus screens, and spot metering both in camera and with light meters. Am I alone? (Please pardon the bad syntax- I'm to lazy to go back and correct them)
You are not alone. What works for me is 'back button' focus with center spot, recompose if required. Feels just like split image focusing from back in "the good old days" :thumbup:
Jan 28, 2016 14:33:28 #
boberic wrote:
All the various makers brag about the number and configuration of their focus points. I find the both distracting and not at all helpful. As a result I use center spot focus as well as spot metering in my 7d. Am I the only and what,if anything , am I missing. I come from 4 or 5 decades of film with split image film focus screens, and spot metering both in camera and with light meters. Am I alone? (Please pardon the bad syntax- I'm to lazy to go back and correct them)
I use the center focus point almost exclusive except for BIF. Occasionally I will use the group focus on the D810.
Jan 28, 2016 14:45:02 #
boberic wrote:
All the various makers brag about the number and configuration of their focus points. I find the both distracting and not at all helpful. As a result I use center spot focus as well as spot metering in my 7d. Am I the only and what,if anything , am I missing. I come from 4 or 5 decades of film with split image film focus screens, and spot metering both in camera and with light meters. Am I alone? (Please pardon the bad syntax- I'm to lazy to go back and correct them)
Times change. So do cameras. I doubt that there is a digital camera on the market today that doesn't offer far more options then even the best cameras of 15 or 20 years ago. Don't want all those focus points? Just configure your camera so they are not there. You'll never know they exist. Same with most all the other features. They will always be there, but most cameras will allow you to make them disappear. You can make your camera as basic or as complex as you want. That's the beauty of digital.
Jan 28, 2016 15:05:49 #
SharpShooter wrote:
That's my 2 cent perspective!!!
SS
SS
Since you've made at least 2 cents more than me on photography, I'll take your opinion into consideration.
Jan 28, 2016 15:50:20 #
boberic wrote:
All the various makers brag about the number and configuration of their focus points. I find the both distracting and not at all helpful. As a result I use center spot focus as well as spot metering in my 7d. Am I the only and what,if anything , am I missing. I come from 4 or 5 decades of film with split image film focus screens, and spot metering both in camera and with light meters. Am I alone? (Please pardon the bad syntax- I'm to lazy to go back and correct them)
It depends on what I am shooting. Sometimes I use Spot metering, sometimes I use Matrix (Evaluative). The same with focus points, sometime one, sometimes 9 and so forth. It depends on the subject and shooting conditions.
Jan 28, 2016 16:14:42 #
CHOLLY wrote:
It is yet another tool to help the photographer capture the image he or she wants, CLOSER to the way he or she envisions it.
No different than Autofocus or detachable lenses.
Multiple focus points is a TOOL.
No different than Autofocus or detachable lenses.
Multiple focus points is a TOOL.
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You can make furniture with traditional hand powered tools or you can use power / machine tools
You can walk, ride a bike or a horse, drive, take a bus or train, swim or take a boat, try to fly or take a plane...
It's called technology, and it's there if we want it. It can take a bit of a learning curve, it's up to each of us as to how valuable it is and how to use it....
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Get rid of that crazy salesman and his useless contraption, I have a battle to fight!
Jan 28, 2016 16:55:30 #
The focus-recompose approach works just me; fiddling with multiple focus points only slows me down. I suppose if I shot birds in the sky or had my camera mounted on a tripod, selecting focus points would be more efficient. But I rarely do either.
Jan 28, 2016 17:35:20 #
rook2c4 wrote:
The focus-recompose approach works just me; fiddling with multiple focus points only slows me down. I suppose if I shot birds in the sky or had my camera mounted on a tripod, selecting focus points would be more efficient. But I rarely do either.
Rook, we all shoot within the confines of the limits of our cameras, or our abilities. That has to be the lowest common denominator. MOST, people use the central point for a reason....., it's the ONLY cross point on most inexpensive or older cameras. So it's the only point that is reliable enough to lock good focus. AND, if you enable ALL the points, now it's a crap shoot, since many cameras will just lock to the area of highest contrast and focus there, but that may not be where YOU wanted the focus to be.
If you are focusing on whole body shots of people standing around, such as at a wedding on central point, that puts the head in the center and the feet at the bottom of the frame. So what's in the whole top half?? Nothing after you crop off 50% of your pixels!!
One of my cameras has tons of focus points and ALL are cross type. It also has focus point Auto Orientation. What's that? I can pick a point at the top off the frame in portrait orientation and put that point on people's eye, ensuring the eye is always in focus and at the top of the frame. But to shoot a wide group of people, I simply rotate the camera to landscape and my focus point automatically shifts to the same location in the frame but on landscape mode. That point is still at the top of my screen and on the eyes and I sometimes don't need to crop at all.
That same configuration works for me for sports, portraits, birds etc.
One learns not to fear a miss-focus because you are not on the sensitive center point all the time, since all the points are sensitive.
If you ever shoot with lenses using only 1" of DoF, Recomposing gets extremely critical really quick, if not impossible. Rook, I don't recall the last time my camera was on a tripod either, nor do I recall the last time I had my camera on central point either.
And if all you shoot are landscapes, any point will do, as usually everything is at infinity anyway.
When I first started I too used just central point, but today's cameras are WAY beyond that for those wishing to improve their photography by taking advantage of the new technologies!! ;-)
SS
Jan 28, 2016 17:59:20 #
SharpShooter wrote:
Rook, we all shoot within the confines of the limi... (show quote)
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Except, it does depend on the camera that you have AND your willingness to learn its capabilities.
But, the principle, I'm with you on this SS.
Give me a "Canon EOS-1D X Mark IV Kim Kardassian Kiss Special Edition Body" and I'd be happy to learn how to use it, although if Canon ever productized such a thing, I 'd switch to Nikon, Sony, or even an iPhone overnight! Maybe just go back to my T90!
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Jan 28, 2016 18:41:23 #
I like having the ability to choose any one of the 81 points on my screen. I even love the fact that they all work with the touchscreen as well.
Jan 28, 2016 19:37:20 #
[quote=boberic]I don't shoot BIF for several reasons. But mostly I stink at it. I shoot mostly landscapes(they don't move)[/quote]
Never been in an earthquake have you? Or seen a landslide. Landscapes can move. 8-) :lol: :roll:
I feel bad about saying that, but not bad enough to delete it.
Never been in an earthquake have you? Or seen a landslide. Landscapes can move. 8-) :lol: :roll:
I feel bad about saying that, but not bad enough to delete it.
Jan 28, 2016 19:48:07 #
robertjerl wrote:
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Never been in an earthquake have you? Or seen a landslide. Landscapes can move. 8-) :lol: :roll:
I feel bad about saying that, but not bad enough to delete it.
Never been in an earthquake have you? Or seen a landslide. Landscapes can move. 8-) :lol: :roll:
I feel bad about saying that, but not bad enough to delete it.
Actually I have been in an earthquake, a very mild one, It was on the beach in Mexico, during my honeymoon. Didn't have a camera with me. No landslide.
Jan 28, 2016 20:42:47 #
boberic wrote:
Actually I have been in an earthquake, a very mild one, It was on the beach in Mexico, during my honeymoon. Didn't have a camera with me. No landslide.
They never seem to happen when I have a camera in hand, mostly I seem to sleep though them....
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