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Canon 100-400L ii w/1.4x iii tele or Sigma 150-600 Sport?
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Jan 28, 2016 11:26:29   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
wotsmith wrote:
One other option: consider a Canon 300 f2.8 prime. Rent one and try it out. Fabulous and works great with 1.4 and 2x and still reasonable f stop. it is my favorite lens.


Mine too but you could buy 3 of the 100-400 lenses for just the price of one 300mmf/2.8!

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Jan 28, 2016 11:52:28   #
Lupane Loc: Gainsville, Ga.
 
FWIW, having both, the 100-400L ii and the 1.4x iii; it is an amazing combination out in the Sun. I am sure that this combination outperforms the Sigma since my best friend owns the Sigma. We both shoot with a 7D ii. As far as being indoors, I never had the need to use the extender. The combination becomes 224-896 with 7Dii and in good sunlight the pictures are stupendous. In price it amounts to $2525 vs $1799. It is up to the person to decide.

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Jan 28, 2016 12:09:54   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
mdphelps wrote:
Would like input on which combination is better for IQ & Autofocus on Canon 6D & 7Dmkii for sport shooting (soccer, baseball & track field) usually in decent daylight. Currently shooting inside sports with 70-200L ii 2.8 USM IS. Thanks for your input.


No contest ! You will want the focus speed and accuracy of the Canon 100-400 bare lens - assuming you do a proper micro focus adjust. Forget the 1.4X and use well applied pixel enlarging techniques/software if needed.

You will also want the maneuverability and mobility ( lighter weight) of the Canon.

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Jan 28, 2016 12:24:53   #
jimmya Loc: Phoenix
 
mdphelps wrote:
Would like input on which combination is better for IQ & Autofocus on Canon 6D & 7Dmkii for sport shooting (soccer, baseball & track field) usually in decent daylight. Currently shooting inside sports with 70-200L ii 2.8 USM IS. Thanks for your input.


I had a bad experience with a Sigma lens and never went back to them. I'd recommend the Canon - made for Canon gear.

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Jan 28, 2016 12:29:57   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
jimmya wrote:
I had a bad experience with a Sigma lens and never went back to them. I'd recommend the Canon - made for Canon gear.


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Jan 28, 2016 13:26:47   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
LFingar wrote:
I've never used the Sigma or an extender so I can't help you there, but I do have both the 100-400 L II and the 70-200 f/2.8 L II. I use them on my 6D and 7DII. The 100-400 L II is outstanding. Extremely quiet and quick to focus. Nearly instantaneous actually. Image quality is on a par with the 70-200. From everything I have read, the 1.4x does little if anything to degrade performance. Plus, you could use it on the 70-200 if desired. The 100-400 focuses very close. Closer then the 70-200. I find that I use it more then the 70-200. I generally keep the 70-200 on my 6D and the 100-400 on my 7DII. Makes for a great combo.
I've never used the Sigma or an extender so I can'... (show quote)



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Jan 28, 2016 13:35:22   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
mdphelps wrote:
Would like input on which combination is better for IQ & Autofocus on Canon 6D & 7Dmkii for sport shooting (soccer, baseball & track field) usually in decent daylight. Currently shooting inside sports with 70-200L ii 2.8 USM IS. Thanks for your input.


The 6D is not a sports/wildlife camera. The 7D II is. Nuff said.

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Jan 28, 2016 13:51:10   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
The 6D is not a sports/wildlife camera. The 7D II is. Nuff said.


In general that is true. Modify it to the 7DII is much better/easier to use as a sport/wildlife camera. I own both and after practice I have gotten some very good birds and BIF with my 6D. I went back to the old fashioned way, manual mode, preset everything, wait for the bird to be at the right distance (sometimes I use center point focus and track with a gimbal head).

My ideal bird camera would be a combo of the 7DII AF and other features with the 6D's sensor, maybe a new Mk II higher megapixel 6D sensor. Then I would need to win the lotto to afford one.

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Jan 28, 2016 14:25:36   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
The 6D is not a sports/wildlife camera. The 7D II is. Nuff said.


Quite true, but only in the context of today's cameras. Compare the 6D with many of the very successful sport/action cameras of years past, with their very basic AF, if they even had AF, and frame rate, and you could definitely call it a sports camera. It will definitely shoot sports/wildlife, but you just have to work harder at it. I think many of us have gotten a bit spoiled. I know I have. If I go to shoot my nephew's soccer game the 6D stays on the shelf and I take the 7DII.

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Jan 28, 2016 14:49:25   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
LFingar wrote:
Quite true, but only in the context of today's cameras. Compare the 6D with many of the very successful sport/action cameras of years past, with their very basic AF, if they even had AF, and frame rate, and you could definitely call it a sports camera. It will definitely shoot sports/wildlife, but you just have to work harder at it. I think many of us have gotten a bit spoiled. I know I have. If I go to shoot my nephew's soccer game the 6D stays on the shelf and I take the 7DII.


Isn't it amazing how all those great sports/action/wildlife/bird shots got taken in the days of film and all manual controls.
They had to really work at it.

Fantasy, get a time machine and a truck load of modern Canons, Nikons etc.* and go back to about 1969 (I got home from Nam, good year to pick.) and walk into the Nat Geo offices on a day a big bunch of their staff photogs are having a meeting.
Give a demo of the gear and ask who wants one. Might help if you wear a suit of armor for your own protection. Getting trampled hurts.

Then repeat at Sports Illustrated etc.

*Take one computer and printer for each camera, plenty of ink, lots of batteries and chargers.

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Jan 28, 2016 15:22:13   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
robertjerl wrote:
Isn't it amazing how all those great sports/action/wildlife/bird shots got taken in the days of film and all manual controls.
They had to really work at it.

Fantasy, get a time machine and a truck load of modern Canons, Nikons etc.* and go back to about 1969 (I got home from Nam, good year to pick.) and walk into the Nat Geo offices on a day a big bunch of their staff photogs are having a meeting.
Give a demo of the gear and ask who wants one. Might help if you wear a suit of armor for your own protection. Getting trampled hurts.

Then repeat at Sports Illustrated etc.

*Take one computer and printer for each camera, plenty of ink, lots of batteries and chargers.
Isn't it amazing how all those great sports/action... (show quote)


Amazing! Great minds must think alike! In the spring of '69 while heading back to 'Nam for my 2nd tour I spent a couple of days in Japan. Went to a seaside park in Yokohama one afternoon with my Yashica TL Super SLR. A group of about a dozen US models was in the park, posing in various settings for a horde of photographers. I followed them around like a dog in heat, but feeling quite inferior with my one camera and lens and them with all their pro gear. I've occasionally fantasized about teleporting back there with a backpack full of modern gear, including a laptop with photoshop and a portable printer! Talk about blowing everyone's mind!
One note: The models were professionals being moved around the park by an organizer of some kind and had the total attention of the Japanese photographers. Another GI was in the park with his wife and young son. They were African-American and she was quite beautiful. When the photographers spotted her they abandoned the models and surrounded the family for probably 10 minutes taking shots. Primarily of her. The ole motor drives were a whirring! It was like they had never seen a black person before, although I am sure they had with all the US presence in Japan. They graciously posed for a while then went on their way.
So, want to build a time machine and have some fun? Besides, I could use it to go back and warn myself about certain females I have known! :lol:

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Jan 28, 2016 18:07:11   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Better yet a list of stocks or real estate values and money to invest.

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Jan 28, 2016 18:20:30   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
robertjerl wrote:
Better yet a list of stocks or real estate values and money to invest.


That is my time machine.
Work as a janitor at the very beginning for Bill Gates and take my pay in stock

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Jan 28, 2016 19:03:32   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
LFingar wrote:
Amazing! Great minds must think alike! In the spring of '69 while heading back to 'Nam for my 2nd tour I spent a couple of days in Japan. Went to a seaside park in Yokohama one afternoon with my Yashica TL Super SLR. A group of about a dozen US models was in the park, posing in various settings for a horde of photographers. I followed them around like a dog in heat, but feeling quite inferior with my one camera and lens and them with all their pro gear. I've occasionally fantasized about teleporting back there with a backpack full of modern gear, including a laptop with photoshop and a portable printer! Talk about blowing everyone's mind!
One note: The models were professionals being moved around the park by an organizer of some kind and had the total attention of the Japanese photographers. Another GI was in the park with his wife and young son. They were African-American and she was quite beautiful. When the photographers spotted her they abandoned the models and surrounded the family for probably 10 minutes taking shots. Primarily of her. The ole motor drives were a whirring! It was like they had never seen a black person before, although I am sure they had with all the US presence in Japan. They graciously posed for a while then went on their way.
So, want to build a time machine and have some fun? Besides, I could use it to go back and warn myself about certain females I have known! :lol:
Amazing! Great minds must think alike! In the spri... (show quote)


Lets go back a little farther to 1963 and buy about 12 Corvettes. If I remember about $6,000.00 each and that was all the money in the world to me at that time.

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Jan 28, 2016 19:53:14   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
RRS wrote:
Lets go back a little farther to 1963 and buy about 12 Corvettes. If I remember about $6,000.00 each and that was all the money in the world to me at that time.


You might be a little bit high in your pricing of 1963 Corvettes. But, we were discussing the newer version of the Canon 100-400mm lens and we all know the trading price for the lens. I am reading the critiques here and some are being too harsh with the 2x T/C. I'm not getting too many problems with either TC and the newer version of the lens. Been shooting it and either T/C for the last 3 weeks and don't have any problems. I find the 1.4 T/C to be almost required to make the lens reach it's maximum capabilities. I was able to shoot an afternoon's worth of the EF 200-400mm f/4.0L w 1.4 T/c last fall. The 100-400 with the 1.4 t/c reminds me of the bigger lens. Both lenses seem to be as comfortable with the T/C as without it. The T/C should be included in version III of the 100-400. The top 2 shots are @ 800mm, the bottom is 540mm.


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