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Jan 13, 2016 13:05:28   #
Voss
 
Here's one more opinion, respectfully offered. It seems that the word "street" is being taken too literally. I believe people on the "street" are the essence of good street photography. Look at most good street shots, then mentally remove the people. Generally all that remains is concrete and steel. But, remove the "street" and you still have a great photo. People's emotional relationship to the street is still reflected in their expressions, body language, and so forth, even if the street itself is not visible.

By the way, there are quotes around some uses of "street" because, by many definitions of street photography, a street is not necessarily a street. "Street" photography can take place in any public area--malls, parks, beaches, and, I'll add, fairs and festivals. Street photos are about people. They are spontaneous, unplanned, and candid, showing mood or emotion. (This is taken directly from travelwp and his video "What Is Street Photography," posted on Jan. 9.)

Dave, don't quit this section. I shoot and feel as you do (posts will be forthcoming), and am sure that others do as well. I joined this section in large part to see this kind of shot (and also to learn more). Let's all learn something new.

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Jan 13, 2016 13:33:54   #
Dave Chinn
 
Voss wrote:
Here's one more opinion, respectfully offered. It seems that the word "street" is being taken too literally. I believe people on the "street" are the essence of good street photography. Look at most good street shots, then mentally remove the people. Generally all that remains is concrete and steel. But, remove the "street" and you still have a great photo. People's emotional relationship to the street is still reflected in their expressions, body language, and so forth, even if the street itself is not visible.

By the way, there are quotes around some uses of "street" because, by many definitions of street photography, a street is not necessarily a street. "Street" photography can take place in any public area--malls, parks, beaches, and, I'll add, fairs and festivals. Street photos are about people. They are spontaneous, unplanned, and candid, showing mood or emotion. (This is taken directly from travelwp and his video "What Is Street Photography," posted on Jan. 9.)

Dave, don't quit this section. I shoot and feel as you do (posts will be forthcoming), and am sure that others do as well. I joined this section in large part to see this kind of shot (and also to learn more). Let's all learn something new.
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Voss thank you very much for your input !!! I truly appreciate it. I agree with most if not all of the description concerning street photography. The only thing I disagree is being unplanned. When I go out on the street or where ever and I find my subject, my shot is planned. Some are candid and some not but for the most part it is planned.

Also, I agree about joining this section to learn from others and to improve but in a constructive way. I just wonder if this section will ever move forward and out of the descriptive mode of what street photography is or isn't? I can't figure out what the big deal is. I'll hang around to see if any changes do occur though. Thanks again.
Dave

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Jan 13, 2016 14:15:23   #
Nightski
 
I liked this one right away. I felt that you had captured the "Lonesome Fan" idea very well .. but I did feel that the shot was a little tight. After seeing the original, I know the first shot is too tight. Even though I very much like the b&w processing in the first, I can't help but feel that in cropping you have cropped out her "aloneness" in a city packed with people. Your DOF nicely blurred out all the other people, so it is quite clear that she is your subject. I think your original shot is top shelf .. really great street work .. I'd love to see the whole thing done up in b&w. I do like the colour one too .. maybe if you use the colour one, just desaturate her surroundings a very wee bit. Not enough that anyone would notice, but enough to bring the eye more to her. I'd love to see what you do with both, actually. Great shot, DEC.

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Jan 13, 2016 16:46:56   #
Dave Chinn
 
Nightski wrote:
I liked this one right away. I felt that you had captured the "Lonesome Fan" idea very well .. but I did feel that the shot was a little tight. After seeing the original, I know the first shot is too tight. Even though I very much like the b&w processing in the first, I can't help but feel that in cropping you have cropped out her "aloneness" in a city packed with people. Your DOF nicely blurred out all the other people, so it is quite clear that she is your subject. I think your original shot is top shelf .. really great street work .. I'd love to see the whole thing done up in b&w. I do like the colour one too .. maybe if you use the colour one, just desaturate her surroundings a very wee bit. Not enough that anyone would notice, but enough to bring the eye more to her. I'd love to see what you do with both, actually. Great shot, DEC.
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Thank you Nightski !!! I appreciate your comments and opinion. In a way I agree with your idea of the crop. Yes, it is a little tight but for the most part I like them that way as it allows the viewer to focus more so on the subject. I will however have an open mind and give your suggestion an attempt. A very good observation on your part and maybe I should run with it. I'm always open to constructive criticism and really do appreciate it. Thanks again.
Dave

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Jan 14, 2016 15:59:02   #
streetmarty Loc: Brockton, Ma
 
Voss wrote:
Here's one more opinion, respectfully offered. It seems that the word "street" is being taken too literally. I believe people on the "street" are the essence of good street photography. Look at most good street shots, then mentally remove the people. Generally all that remains is concrete and steel. But, remove the "street" and you still have a great photo. People's emotional relationship to the street is still reflected in their expressions, body language, and so forth, even if the street itself is not visible.

By the way, there are quotes around some uses of "street" because, by many definitions of street photography, a street is not necessarily a street. "Street" photography can take place in any public area--malls, parks, beaches, and, I'll add, fairs and festivals. Street photos are about people. They are spontaneous, unplanned, and candid, showing mood or emotion. (This is taken directly from travelwp and his video "What Is Street Photography," posted on Jan. 9.)

Dave, don't quit this section. I shoot and feel as you do (posts will be forthcoming), and am sure that others do as well. I joined this section in large part to see this kind of shot (and also to learn more). Let's all learn something new.
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Great response.
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jan 15, 2016 16:40:30   #
Nightski
 
DEC wrote:
Thank you Nightski !!! I appreciate your comments and opinion. In a way I agree with your idea of the crop. Yes, it is a little tight but for the most part I like them that way as it allows the viewer to focus more so on the subject. I will however have an open mind and give your suggestion an attempt. A very good observation on your part and maybe I should run with it. I'm always open to constructive criticism and really do appreciate it. Thanks again.
Dave


Thanks, Dave. Country's Mama and I always have this discussion. She prefers the street portrait style more than the environmental style and I like the environmental style. You do a wonderful job in your post processing though, and I do hope you post the original with your wonderful b&w work.

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Jan 15, 2016 18:10:28   #
Dave Chinn
 
Nightski wrote:
Thanks, Dave. Country's Mama and I always have this discussion. She prefers the street portrait style more than the environmental style and I like the environmental style. You do a wonderful job in your post processing though, and I do hope you post the original with your wonderful b&w work.


Your welcome !!! I can understand how both you and Country Momma feel because after redoing this image again per your suggestion I can hardly decide. I suppose I could go either way depending on the mood at the time. Here is a color and b&w cropped just a little off the top. Thanks again.
Dave

'Lonesome Fan' not so tight on the crop
'Lonesome Fan' not so tight on the crop...
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'Lonesome Fan' not so tight on the crop
'Lonesome Fan' not so tight on the crop...
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Jan 15, 2016 18:13:19   #
Nightski
 
DEC wrote:
Your welcome !!! I can understand how both you and Country Momma feel because after redoing this image again per your suggestion I can hardly decide. I suppose I could go either way depending on the mood at the time. Here is a color and b&w cropped just a little off the top. Thanks again.
Dave


Very nice. :-)

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Jan 15, 2016 18:22:51   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
DEC wrote:
Your welcome !!! I can understand how both you and Country Momma feel because after redoing this image again per your suggestion I can hardly decide. I suppose I could go either way depending on the mood at the time. Here is a color and b&w cropped just a little off the top. Thanks again.
Dave

I like both of these much better than the previous version. I'm sort of leaning to the color version, but the BW has its advantages too.

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Jan 15, 2016 18:40:04   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
DEC wrote:
Your welcome !!! I can understand how both you and Country Momma feel because after redoing this image again per your suggestion I can hardly decide. I suppose I could go either way depending on the mood at the time. Here is a color and b&w cropped just a little off the top. Thanks again.
Dave


I like your original B&W Best, I can see detail which i can't see in the wider crop. The Color Version I find the green traffic lights distracting

I prefer the simpler original version, maybe at a larger size i might like the wider version but as it is i see less detail in the subject and the woman becomes more anonymous. I guess that's personal taste nightski prefers the wider shot and maybe she has better taste than me.

Either version has an emotional grip that draws me in. I hope to see more of your work, you have talent.

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