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Apr 20, 2012 21:42:49   #
ward5311 Loc: Georgia
 
hflare wrote:
Yes, I can go another month, have some saved, Tuesday will make it four hundred in the pocket, next month four weeks from then, another four, I took a job painting a fence, starting this week end, and can add a few hundred more as I am waiting for next month... so, I can afford this lens..

I like the spec's.. I just spent a hour reading the reports on the lens you suggested, it seems to have most of the others beat and that includes the Nikon one also...

And such a fast one.. 2.8 aperture.. for the smallest setting...

Thank you I am very delighted with this lens, and will be looking to obtain it next month.. if you have any other views or lens to have me look at, considering my budget.. let me know...

I will now go and see if I can find some photos taken with the lens.. and check them out...

Thanks dude..!!!
Yes, I can go another month, have some saved, Tues... (show quote)


You're welcome They sell for $699 from Cameta.

You can see some of my images with the lens here:

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-31132-1.html

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Apr 21, 2012 05:59:57   #
russebarre9
 
Just a comment.I know you all are talking about Nikon, but for the record, I have a Canon Digital XTI and Canon has a crop factor of 1.6.

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Apr 21, 2012 08:25:43   #
frederdane Loc: Orlando, FL
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
This diagram may help you understand about "crop factor". All lenses project the same field-of-view on every camera. The difference is the size of each camera's sensor.

"Full frame" (FX) digital cameras have sensors the same size as 35-mm film ratio used in film cameras: 24-mm x 36-mm.

"Cropped" (DX) digital cameras have smaller sensors (approx 16-mm x 24-mm) which see & record a smaller area of the image projected by the lens. This is generically called an APS-C size sensor.

On Nikon DX cameras, we use a crop factor of 1.5x to figure the apparent view, which would match the lens needed on a 35-mm film camera to capture the same field-of-view.
This diagram may help you understand about "c... (show quote)


Another excellent post, Nikonian guy. Is it your own chart? Colorful and seemingly accurate.

Looked around before responding, but sometimes not enough. I found an excelent article dealing with the subject here:http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/50-comparison/film-digital.htm (I need to ask if he's related to the famous Norman Rockwell - Maybe not, he's asking for $). He provides an actual photograph to illustrate the differences.

Also, Wikipedia weighs in - a good starting point is to look up "Image Sensor Format." Similar charts and comparisons. If you want to skip the math part, scroll down for the chart. Then, the list under ITS "See Also" is worth pursuing to the point of information overload. But is that even possible?

I think I've successfully changed my Avatar. NOT a cowboy by any stretch, but how does the eye of Horus relate to photography?

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Apr 21, 2012 08:41:49   #
Bozsik Loc: Orangevale, California
 
hflare wrote:


Sorry I am getting old......



No need to apologize for the age. We are all either there, or will be at some point.
I understand your concern about focal lengths - digital vs film. Don't worry about the numbers. If you can find someone - whether camera store or otherwise- that has one, look through the lens and see if it is creating the look you want.

I have the Sigma 10-20. Here are a few images I took this past week or so. If this is what you are looking for, then the lenses in the 10-12 mm should work fine for you.

The thing you will really want to invest in is a foam pad to kneel on. It is easier on old bones. You will be down on the ground a lot more with the wide angle to get some shots that emphasize the sweep of the wide angle. I have a small piece of closed-cell foam 6"x12" I keep in my pocket when I am hiking. It's very handy when the ground is hard, sharp, wet, muddy, thorny, etc.

By the way, Great chart Nikonian. A picture is worth a thousand posts - or something to that effect.









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Apr 21, 2012 08:47:11   #
frederdane Loc: Orlando, FL
 
Bozsik wrote:
hflare wrote:


Sorry I am getting old......



No need to apologize for the age. We are all either there, or will be at some point.
I understand your concern about focal lengths - digital vs film. Don't worry about the numbers. If you can find someone - whether camera store or otherwise- that has one, look through the lens and see if it is creating the look you want.

I have the Sigma 10-20. Here are a few images I took this past week or so. If this is what you are looking for, then the lenses in the 10-12 mm should work fine for you.

The thing you will really want to invest in is a foam pad to kneel on. It is easier on old bones. You will be down on the ground a lot more with the wide angle to get some shots that emphasize the sweep of the wide angle.
quote=hflare br br Sorry I am getting old......... (show quote)


Good examples. I like no. 1's horizon line. You can also buy knee pads to wear for such occasions.

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Apr 21, 2012 08:50:32   #
Bozsik Loc: Orangevale, California
 
frederdane wrote:


Good examples. I like no. 1's horizon line. You can also buy knee pads to wear for such occasions.


Home Depot, Lowes, Ace hardware, Any decent gardening store

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Apr 21, 2012 09:17:09   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
I can't believe it a problem addressed and solved.

UHH a job well done!

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Apr 21, 2012 09:32:01   #
madcapmagishion
 
Want to save some money? Consider buying a previously owned/used lens from someplace like KEH or Adorama or even Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Tokina-AT-X-11-16mm-Lens-Nikon/dp/B0014Z5XMK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335015170&sr=8-1

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Apr 21, 2012 09:51:25   #
Nanc Loc: Rocky Face
 
I have a Tamron 18-270mm and it is a GREAT wide angle lens. I'm using it on my Canon 60D. Don't know if they make it for a Nikon.

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Apr 21, 2012 10:30:25   #
jtipps Loc: Dallas
 
I also have the Tokina 11-16 and it is a really nice lens and I think you will be pleased with it. Good luck.

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Apr 21, 2012 11:01:55   #
richnash46 Loc: Texas
 
Bozsik wrote:
hflare wrote:


Sorry I am getting old......



No need to apologize for the age. We are all either there, or will be at some point.
I understand your concern about focal lengths - digital vs film. Don't worry about the numbers. If you can find someone - whether camera store or otherwise- that has one, look through the lens and see if it is creating the look you want.

I have the Sigma 10-20. Here are a few images I took this past week or so. If this is what you are looking for, then the lenses in the 10-12 mm should work fine for you.

The thing you will really want to invest in is a foam pad to kneel on. It is easier on old bones. You will be down on the ground a lot more with the wide angle to get some shots that emphasize the sweep of the wide angle. I have a small piece of closed-cell foam 6"x12" I keep in my pocket when I am hiking. It's very handy when the ground is hard, sharp, wet, muddy, thorny, etc.

By the way, Great chart Nikonian. A picture is worth a thousand posts - or something to that effect.
quote=hflare br br Sorry I am getting old......... (show quote)


Those are some gorgeous photos Bozsik!

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Apr 21, 2012 12:11:40   #
Bozsik Loc: Orangevale, California
 
richnash46 wrote:
Bozsik wrote:
hflare wrote:


Sorry I am getting old......



No need to apologize for the age. We are all either there, or will be at some point.
I understand your concern about focal lengths - digital vs film. Don't worry about the numbers. If you can find someone - whether camera store or otherwise- that has one, look through the lens and see if it is creating the look you want.

I have the Sigma 10-20. Here are a few images I took this past week or so. If this is what you are looking for, then the lenses in the 10-12 mm should work fine for you.

The thing you will really want to invest in is a foam pad to kneel on. It is easier on old bones. You will be down on the ground a lot more with the wide angle to get some shots that emphasize the sweep of the wide angle. I have a small piece of closed-cell foam 6"x12" I keep in my pocket when I am hiking. It's very handy when the ground is hard, sharp, wet, muddy, thorny, etc.

By the way, Great chart Nikonian. A picture is worth a thousand posts - or something to that effect.
quote=hflare br br Sorry I am getting old......... (show quote)


Those are some gorgeous photos Bozsik!
quote=Bozsik quote=hflare br br Sorry I am get... (show quote)


Thanks,
I think some of the lenses tha Sigma make are just as good as the Name brands. As corny as it sounds, it is still in the photographer's hands as to how he/she would like to interpret the information.

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Apr 21, 2012 12:13:39   #
jwpulliam Loc: New Harmony, In
 
I think the crop factor on a Nikon is 1.5 so you multiply the focal length which is 10 to 20 by 1.5. That would make your wide angle seem like a 15 to 30mm if you are on reduced sensor sized Nikon. If you were on a Canon then the crop factor would be 1.6.

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Apr 21, 2012 14:17:46   #
coco1964 Loc: Winsted Mn
 
Nanc wrote:
I have a Tamron 18-270mm and it is a GREAT wide angle lens. I'm using it on my Canon 60D. Don't know if they make it for a Nikon.
They make it for everything but the OP wants something wider than the 18mm. He stated that he will be using it outdoors so I'm going to assume he likes landscapes and sceanery. Something I might suggest that you might like is a PP program that does panoramas and you can make your shot as wide as you like................

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Apr 21, 2012 14:35:37   #
Bozsik Loc: Orangevale, California
 
coco1964 wrote:
Nanc wrote:
I have a Tamron 18-270mm and it is a GREAT wide angle lens. I'm using it on my Canon 60D. Don't know if they make it for a Nikon.
They make it for everything but the OP wants something wider than the 18mm. He stated that he will be using it outdoors so I'm going to assume he likes landscapes and sceanery. Something I might suggest that you might like is a PP program that does panoramas and you can make your shot as wide as you like................


I think he enjoys the foreshortening effect of a single ultra-wide angle lens and not the corrected perspective from stitched photos.

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