Wow, what a difference
Apr 14, 2012 05:46:22 #
Just removed a Quantaray (sp) neutral filter from my Nikon 18-55 lens. Took a few shots and man what a difference! Would not have thought about doing that if it were not for this list.
Apr 14, 2012 08:44:17 #
Never a good idea to leave a filter on constantly until you have taken pics both with and without it, and then compared them to see just how much that particular filter degrades your image. Many will hurt a lot more than help, especially cheaper filters. Even some very expensive ones will mess up a good shot sometimes.
Apr 14, 2012 08:51:57 #
MT Shooter wrote:
Never a good idea to leave a filter on constantly until you have taken pics both with and without it, and then compared them to see just how much that particular filter degrades your image. Many will hurt a lot more than help, especially cheaper filters. Even some very expensive ones will mess up a good shot sometimes.
hmm, has me thinking that may have been a problem I was having trying to get my camera tuned with my lightning trigger. I think it is just a UV filter but could be causing a reflection?
Apr 14, 2012 08:57:40 #
wrr wrote:
quote=MT Shooter Never a good idea to leave a fil... (show quote)
Most definitely. UV's are the single biggest source of image quality problems simply because so many people just leave them on all the time without ever having done comparison shots to know just exactly how that filter is affecting their shots in various situations. Some have very little negative effect, almost unnoticeable, and some can seriously degrade an image an many if not all situations. Its simply a matter of needing to know exactly what that filter is REALLY doing to your image.
Apr 15, 2012 09:06:34 #
Apr 15, 2012 09:32:26 #
mtshooter...thanks for the advice. i use BW filters and bought them for all my lenses...after an accident last year, which if i had a filter on the lens, i wouldn't have ruined it..now i am scared to use a lens without the filter.
i think i will be brave and remove the filter and take some shots.
when i was in the camera shop, i had a cheap tiffen model filter on my one lens and they showed me that the BW filter didn't have any effect on my shots. i know removing the $30 tiffen lens made a really big difference.
i pretty much always use a lens hood..so maybe i am over-protecting my lenses.
i will give it some comparison shots and see if there's a difference.
is there certain light situations or locations that a uv filter shouldn't be used?
thanks for the info.
i think i will be brave and remove the filter and take some shots.
when i was in the camera shop, i had a cheap tiffen model filter on my one lens and they showed me that the BW filter didn't have any effect on my shots. i know removing the $30 tiffen lens made a really big difference.
i pretty much always use a lens hood..so maybe i am over-protecting my lenses.
i will give it some comparison shots and see if there's a difference.
is there certain light situations or locations that a uv filter shouldn't be used?
thanks for the info.
Apr 15, 2012 09:53:38 #
Yes, good advice MT.
I bought a Nikon reman zoom, nothing fancy, 55-200mm DX VR, a lens no one seems to want considering the large amount on craigslist.
Well I got it cheaply to bang around. I threw a filter on it like I always do.
Shot some and thought, wow this really is a bad lens.
Then I looked at the filter. Ha ha. I had a Tiffen Hollywood/FX Warm Soft/FX 3 on it. No wonder every image looked soft.
I may as well have smeared vasoline on it, like the old days.
I bought a Nikon reman zoom, nothing fancy, 55-200mm DX VR, a lens no one seems to want considering the large amount on craigslist.
Well I got it cheaply to bang around. I threw a filter on it like I always do.
Shot some and thought, wow this really is a bad lens.
Then I looked at the filter. Ha ha. I had a Tiffen Hollywood/FX Warm Soft/FX 3 on it. No wonder every image looked soft.
I may as well have smeared vasoline on it, like the old days.
Apr 15, 2012 10:30:05 #
Its a very simple test for anyone to perform, just a couple quick shots and you will know if you can leave it on all the time or not. Easiest way to see for yourself unless you are using an Optically Clear protective filter.
Want a very quick test? lay your filter (any filter) on a piece of white paper, if the color of the paper is changed by the filter, its doing the same thing to your image, changing it, exactly how much can only be seen by the above through the lens test for yourself.
Want a very quick test? lay your filter (any filter) on a piece of white paper, if the color of the paper is changed by the filter, its doing the same thing to your image, changing it, exactly how much can only be seen by the above through the lens test for yourself.
Apr 15, 2012 10:46:52 #
MT Shooter wrote:
Its a very simple test for anyone to perform, just a couple quick shots and you will know if you can leave it on all the time or not. Easiest way to see for yourself unless you are using an Optically Clear protective filter.
Want a very quick test? lay your filter (any filter) on a piece of white paper, if the color of the paper is changed by the filter, its doing the same thing to your image, changing it, exactly how much can only be seen by the above through the lens test for yourself.
Want a very quick test? lay your filter (any filter) on a piece of white paper, if the color of the paper is changed by the filter, its doing the same thing to your image, changing it, exactly how much can only be seen by the above through the lens test for yourself.
MT, Not long ago you mentioned a clear filter you use. Which one was it?
Apr 15, 2012 10:54:16 #
Bill MN wrote:
quote=MT Shooter Its a very simple test for anyon... (show quote)
I use the Nikon NC filter (Neutral Clear) for protection on all my lenses except my 2 big Sigmas as Nikon only makes it up to 77mm in size.
I have a Sonia 86mm Clear Protective filter on my Sigma 150-500mm as its the only one I could find and seems to be very good so far. No color distortion at all and as of yet no image distortion that I have found. I have only had it for three weeks and honestly have no used that lens much in that time due to weather here.
I have no protective filter on my 800mm Sigma as it has its own protective front lens built-in and I wouldn't have a clue where to find a 6 1/2 inch filter, even if the lens was threaded for one, which it is not.
Apr 15, 2012 10:54:47 #
Filters are just bad all around. I removed them - oil, air, fuel, cabin - from all my cars as a result of all the filter bashing on this forum. So far, so good.
Apr 15, 2012 10:57:36 #
We did that in the 60's to make that cool rushing of vacuum noise on a 4 barrel V-8.
Better than a loud exhaust...
Better than a loud exhaust...
jerryc41 wrote:
Filters are just bad all around. I removed them from all my cars as a result of all the filter bashing on this forum. So far, so good.
Apr 15, 2012 10:59:29 #
randymoe wrote:
We did that in the 60's to make that cool rushing of vacuum noise on a 4 barrel V-8.
Better than a loud exhaust...
Better than a loud exhaust...
jerryc41 wrote:
Filters are just bad all around. I removed them from all my cars as a result of all the filter bashing on this forum. So far, so good.
Or better yet, replace the filter assembly with a velocity stack!
Apr 15, 2012 11:11:41 #
[quote=MT Shooter]
I loved that sound. That was a real sound of power. I had a '65 427 Ford with 2 4-barrels. That had a great sound, but the exhaust was stock and quiet. The solid lifters were noisy, though.
randymoe wrote:
We did that in the 60's to make that cool rushing of vacuum noise on a 4 barrel V-8.
Better than a loud exhaust...
Better than a loud exhaust...
I loved that sound. That was a real sound of power. I had a '65 427 Ford with 2 4-barrels. That had a great sound, but the exhaust was stock and quiet. The solid lifters were noisy, though.
Apr 15, 2012 11:20:01 #
I did Dyno testing for the last 30 years. It really sounds cool if you are in the room when the secondaries kick in.
Some engines we ran without filters and only a velocity stack, because we could not get enough air to them. The room air was filtered anyway.
Modern F. I. engines make way more power with their stock tuned intake systems with plenum chambers.
But that was another life...
[quote=jerryc41]
Some engines we ran without filters and only a velocity stack, because we could not get enough air to them. The room air was filtered anyway.
Modern F. I. engines make way more power with their stock tuned intake systems with plenum chambers.
But that was another life...
[quote=jerryc41]
MT Shooter wrote:
I loved that sound. That was a real sound of power. I had a '65 427 Ford with 2 4-barrels. That had a great sound, but the exhaust was stock and quiet. The solid lifters were noisy, though.
randymoe wrote:
We did that in the 60's to make that cool rushing of vacuum noise on a 4 barrel V-8.
Better than a loud exhaust...
Better than a loud exhaust...
I loved that sound. That was a real sound of power. I had a '65 427 Ford with 2 4-barrels. That had a great sound, but the exhaust was stock and quiet. The solid lifters were noisy, though.
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