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Nov 17, 2015 06:30:15   #
OnDSnap
 
I need something better in low light, and simply a sharper image... I also have a D750 along with the so called Holy trinity lenses plus some. So glass isn't the issue. After shooting a while with the D750 and comparing the results I get with my D7000...which is huge. Aside from the obvious, I was thinking maybe replacing the D7000 with either the D7100 or D7200. Thoughts? Advice? from current owners of the latter two.
I usually (when shooting sports) under lights (normally) carry both cameras, one for my 24-70 f/2.8 and the other for my 70-200 f/2.8 (sometimes with a 1.4 or 2.0 TC). With the D7000+70-200+2.0 tc (600mm) @ f/5.6, 1/500 to 1/1000th I have to at times crank up the ISO to 1600 & 3200. So, noise as expected is an issue. (I at times don't have that much time between shoot and delivery so if needed & can hurt having to PP for noise via Photo Ninja.) I hate to give up the 600mm reach on the D7000. When the 70-200+2.0 t.c. mounted on the D750, no problem with noise but we're back to reality of 400mm @5.6 1/500-1/1000th. I was even thinking of back peddling to a D700 for low light...but I loose the 600. (which I shouldn't have sold for the d7000) but with all the hype of low noise with the D7000, maybe it's me, I just don't see it. the question for those who have moved from the 7000, Is the 7100 or 7200 any better?

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Nov 17, 2015 07:00:24   #
jerryc41 (a regular here)
 
Unfortunately, you've answered your own question. What you really want is another D750. Maybe there are - or will be - refurbs available. I was in a similar situation a while back, and I got another D750. The newer D7000 series are better than the D7000, but you'll always be wishing you had another D750. I think Nikon has a sale on cameras and lenses now.

EDIT: Yes - http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-store/cameras-on-sale.page

http://camerasize.com/
http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM
http://snapsort.com/compare
http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/cameras?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=mainmenu&utm_medium=text&ref=mainmenu
http://www.imaging-resource.com/cameras/compare/

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Nov 17, 2015 07:01:48   #
letmedance (a regular here)
 
Why not just get a longer lens for the 750. You can never go wrong with a fine lens. The 7000 is no match for the full frame 750 in low light. The larger sensor allows for larger light gathering pixels. My D700 shoots @4000 ISO WITH VIRTUALLY NO NOISE.

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Nov 17, 2015 07:05:57   #
camerapapi (a regular here)
 
I have used the D7000 at high ISO with very pleasant results. If any questions I edit the file with Topaz Denoise to clean the noise. I have not used the D7100 or the D7200.
Your D750 is even better in the noise performance arena but as you said you loose the duplicating factor. Even with a full frame camera it is a good idea to have a noise reduction program.
In your case I would keep the D7000.

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Nov 17, 2015 07:17:00   #
SteveR (a regular here)
 
Go for the D810. Apparently you shoot sports and the 810 has the Group Area Focus Mode which the D4s has. And don't worry about losing "reach." Reach is a misnomer. What you actually get is the "field of view" of a lens 1.5 x that of the focal length in use. The actual image projected onto the crop sensor is the same size as the image projected onto a full frame sensor. The crop camera merely crops it in-camera. With a ff camera, you'd merely need to crop it in p/p to get the same size in print. Think it through and it'll make sense. A 100mm lens is always a 100mm lens.

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Nov 17, 2015 07:22:23   #
UncleBuck (a regular here)
 
I have a D750, upgraded to it from a D610, I have had a D7000 then a D7100, in retrospect I probably should have kept the D7000 a little longer. I now have a D7200, I find the high ISO noise control of the 7200 much better than either the 7100 or 7000, the D7200 auto focusing is actually a touch better in low light than the D750 and much better than either the 7000 or 7100. Hindsight is always 20/20 but my recommendation would be the D7200, it is well worth the difference, and I say that not in criticism of either the 7000 or 7100 as they're both excellent in their right, I just believe the D7200 is better
OnDSnap wrote:
I need something better in low light, and simply a sharper image... I also have a D750 along with the so called Holy trinity lenses plus some. So glass isn't the issue. After shooting a while with the D750 and comparing the results I get with my D7000...which is huge. Aside from the obvious, I was thinking maybe replacing the D7000 with either the D7100 or D7200. Thoughts? Advice? from current owners of the latter two.
I usually (when shooting sports) under lights (normally) carry both cameras, one for my 24-70 f/2.8 and the other for my 70-200 f/2.8 (sometimes with a 1.4 or 2.0 TC). With the D7000+70-200+2.0 tc (600mm) @ f/5.6, 1/500 to 1/1000th I have to at times crank up the ISO to 1600 & 3200. So, noise as expected is an issue. (I at times don't have that much time between shoot and delivery so if needed & can hurt having to PP for noise via Photo Ninja.) I hate to give up the 600mm reach on the D7000. When the 70-200+2.0 t.c. mounted on the D750, no problem with noise but we're back to reality of 400mm @5.6 1/500-1/1000th. I was even thinking of back peddling to a D700 for low light...but I loose the 600. (which I shouldn't have sold for the d7000) but with all the hype of low noise with the D7000, maybe it's me, I just don't see it. the question for those who have moved from the 7000, Is the 7100 or 7200 any better?
I need something better in low light, and simply a... (show quote)

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Nov 17, 2015 07:54:38   #
Bud S
 
OnDSnap wrote:
I need something better in low light, and simply a sharper image... I also have a D750 along with the so called Holy trinity lenses plus some. So glass isn't the issue. After shooting a while with the D750 and comparing the results I get with my D7000...which is huge. Aside from the obvious, I was thinking maybe replacing the D7000 with either the D7100 or D7200. Thoughts? Advice? from current owners of the latter two.
I usually (when shooting sports) under lights (normally) carry both cameras, one for my 24-70 f/2.8 and the other for my 70-200 f/2.8 (sometimes with a 1.4 or 2.0 TC). With the D7000+70-200+2.0 tc (600mm) @ f/5.6, 1/500 to 1/1000th I have to at times crank up the ISO to 1600 & 3200. So, noise as expected is an issue. (I at times don't have that much time between shoot and delivery so if needed & can hurt having to PP for noise via Photo Ninja.) I hate to give up the 600mm reach on the D7000. When the 70-200+2.0 t.c. mounted on the D750, no problem with noise but we're back to reality of 400mm @5.6 1/500-1/1000th. I was even thinking of back peddling to a D700 for low light...but I loose the 600. (which I shouldn't have sold for the d7000) but with all the hype of low noise with the D7000, maybe it's me, I just don't see it. the question for those who have moved from the 7000, Is the 7100 or 7200 any better?
I need something better in low light, and simply a... (show quote)


I never was happy with the 7000 and got a refurb 7100, day and night difference. 7100 much sharper even using same lens. It was evident in an engagement shoot I did using both cameras. Only problem is noise with the 7100 at high ISO. I will get the 750 soon but keep the 7100 for back up and longer reach, I have a couple Sigma lens calibrated to that body and I love the 7100.

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Nov 17, 2015 08:26:40   #
OnDSnap
 
I know I did Jerry and thanks... I'm considering another 750...but still need the 600mm. For a decent one...$$$$ can't do right now. :(

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Nov 17, 2015 08:31:03   #
OnDSnap
 
Thanks Steve, but don't need the added file size... D750 file crops just fine if needed without the added baggage for what I do. Not making billboards :).

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Nov 17, 2015 08:32:25   #
OnDSnap
 
Bud S wrote:
I never was happy with the 7000 and got a refurb 7100, day and night difference. 7100 much sharper even using same lens. It was evident in an engagement shoot I did using both cameras. Only problem is noise with the 7100 at high ISO. I will get the 750 soon but keep the 7100 for back up and longer reach, I have a couple Sigma lens calibrated to that body and I love the 7100.


Thanks Bud...you'll love the 750.

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Nov 17, 2015 08:33:42   #
OnDSnap
 
Thanks UB for your input.

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Nov 17, 2015 08:39:27   #
Bud S
 
OnDSnap wrote:
Thanks Bud...you'll love the 750.




:thumbup:

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Nov 17, 2015 08:43:17   #
OnDSnap
 
SteveR wrote:
Go for the D810. Apparently you shoot sports and the 810 has the Group Area Focus Mode which the D4s has. And don't worry about losing "reach." Reach is a misnomer. What you actually get is the "field of view" of a lens 1.5 x that of the focal length in use. The actual image projected onto the crop sensor is the same size as the image projected onto a full frame sensor. The crop camera merely crops it in-camera. With a ff camera, you'd merely need to crop it in p/p to get the same size in print. Think it through and it'll make sense. A 100mm lens is always a 100mm lens.
Go for the D810. Apparently you shoot sports and ... (show quote)


Replying to the rest of your reply, duh!. I know all about the misnomers, actual image projected ect.etc... the whole point is not always having the time to do Post cropping after a game. If I were going for an 810, I'd wait till I could afford the D4 along with 600mm glass.
Not worried about the losing reach cause I can always crop the D750 shots with no issues...if I have the time. I have the 7000 which will be sold and $$$ put toward a replacement. Something I can use and not get frustrated over.

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Nov 17, 2015 08:48:40   #
Bud S
 
OnDSnap wrote:
Replying to the rest of your reply, duh!. I know all about the misnomers, actual image projected ect.etc... the whole point is not always having the time to do Post cropping after a game. If I were going for an 810, I'd wait till I could afford the D4 along with 600mm glass.
Not worried about the losing reach cause I can always crop the D750 shots with no issues...if I have the time. I have the 7000 which will be sold and $$$ put toward a replacement. Something I can use and not get frustrated over.
Replying to the rest of your reply, duh!. I know a... (show quote)


The 7100 is VERY reasonable as a refurb right now.

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Nov 17, 2015 08:51:44   #
OnDSnap
 
camerapapi wrote:
I have used the D7000 at high ISO with very pleasant results. If any questions I edit the file with Topaz Denoise to clean the noise. I have not used the D7100 or the D7200.
Your D750 is even better in the noise performance arena but as you said you loose the duplicating factor. Even with a full frame camera it is a good idea to have a noise reduction program.
In your case I would keep the D7000.


Thanks, I have Topaz Denoise and yes it does a good job, but PP at times is a factor...not a luxury I always have. If I could afford bigger (good) glass I would get another 750 and be done with it...unfortunately having had to replace 2 computers lately due to age...at $12,000 the 600mm is on the back burner.

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