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Nov 17, 2015 09:00:22   #
OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey
 
letmedance wrote:
Why not just get a longer lens for the 750. You can never go wrong with a fine lens. The 7000 is no match for the full frame 750 in low light. The larger sensor allows for larger light gathering pixels. My D700 shoots @4000 ISO WITH VIRTUALLY NO NOISE.


Can't afford it. I know it's not a match for larger sensors. most were claiming that the d7000 was real good with low noise. Why I bought one...As far as larger sensors, that's why I'm pissed I sold my D700 for the D7000. The D700 is the best IMO for no noise. I used it for shooting bands in some nasty lighting conditions, with no problems.

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Nov 18, 2015 06:46:10   #
larryim Loc: Ohio
 
I upgraded from the D7000 to the D7200 and I am much more satisfied shooting at higher ISO. I have not shot with the D7100, but you may find its smaller buffer to be frustrating from what I understand. For what it is worth, I really like the D7200.

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Nov 18, 2015 07:13:52   #
bruswen Loc: Eugene OR
 
OnDSnap wrote:
I need something better in low light, and simply a sharper image... I also have a D750 along with the so called Holy trinity lenses plus some. So glass isn't the issue. After shooting a while with the D750 and comparing the results I get with my D7000...which is huge. Aside from the obvious, I was thinking maybe replacing the D7000 with either the D7100 or D7200. Thoughts? Advice? from current owners of the latter two.
the question for those who have moved from the 7000, Is the 7100 or 7200 any better?
I need something better in low light, and simply a... (show quote)


I have both the D7000 and the D7200, the D7200 is better than the D7000 and is likely the best APS-C DSLR for low light shooting you can buy, BUT the reality is the D7000 produced clean images up to ISO 1000, the D7200 now reaches ISO 1200 before you see noise. The EXPEED 4 processor in the D7200 processes the noise differently, there is less chroma noise visable in the images, but lumina noise, which is harder to remove, is still present. Low noise is a function of sensor size and pixel size, larger sensors receive more light, larger pixels generate a stronger signal, both reduce noise. If you want to shoot at ISO 3000 with little noise, you need a full frame sensor.

Another thing you might try to get the reach and performance you want, I suggest you rent the new 200-500mm f/5.6 lens from Nikon. The people who have reported on it here give it good reviews though most shoot birds or wildlife, I have not seen a report on sport shooting with that lens, but at $1400 it is in a similar price range as the D7200.

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Nov 18, 2015 08:13:09   #
Jcmarino
 
Have you looked at the Sony 7s?

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Nov 18, 2015 08:54:37   #
OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey
 
Jcmarino wrote:
Have you looked at the Sony 7s?


Why would I do that with over 20 grand worth of Nikon Glass?

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Nov 18, 2015 09:05:05   #
OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey
 
Another thing you might try to get the reach and performance you want, I suggest you rent the new 200-500mm f/5.6 lens from Nikon. The people who have reported on it here give it good reviews though most shoot birds or wildlife, I have not seen a report on sport shooting with that lens, but at $1400 it is in a similar price range as the D7200.[/quote]

I see your point but, but...with my 70-200mm f2.8 on a cropped sensor with a 2x TC, I get pretty much the same thing ...200mm x 1.5 = 300mm angle of view X 2.o TC =600mm @ f/5.6. Why spend $1,400 on another lens I can replicate. Unless I'm missing something, other than getting 1000mm from the 500mm with the 2x TC but then I'm down to f/11, unless I'm mistaken, you can't use a 2xTC with a combined f stop over f/8. (Hope I said that right)

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Nov 18, 2015 09:32:40   #
orrie smith Loc: Kansas
 
in case you have not discovered it yet, you can set your d750 to shoot at 1.2 or dx 1.5 in the photo shooting menu, then the image area menu. other that that, the d7100 or the d7200 are both great choices for backup cameras. the d7200 has a larger buffer, but the d7100 can be purchased at someplace like b&h photo used for a really low price. whatever choice you make, have fun shooting.

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Nov 18, 2015 09:36:06   #
moonhawk Loc: Land of Enchantment
 
OnDSnap wrote:
I know I did Jerry and thanks... I'm considering another 750...but still need the 600mm. For a decent one...$$$$ can't do right now. :(


Using a 2X TC is part of the reason your images aren't sharp.

Consider the new Nikon 200-500 f/5.6. 750mm crop factor with your D7000, and no TC needed.

The lens is extremely sharp, and the VR is just outstanding.

Noise reduction in PP is fairly trivial.

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Nov 18, 2015 09:38:34   #
Jcmarino
 
OnDSnap wrote:
Why would I do that with over 20 grand worth of Nikon Glass?


Use it with an adapter.

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Nov 18, 2015 09:51:59   #
bruswen Loc: Eugene OR
 
OnDSnap wrote:
Another thing you might try to get the reach and performance you want, I suggest you rent the new 200-500mm f/5.6 lens from Nikon. The people who have reported on it here give it good reviews though most shoot birds or wildlife, I have not seen a report on sport shooting with that lens, but at $1400 it is in a similar price range as the D7200.


I see your point but, but...with my 70-200mm f2.8 on a cropped sensor with a 2x TC, I get pretty much the same thing ...200mm x 1.5 = 300mm angle of view X 2.o TC =600mm @ f/5.6. Why spend $1,400 on another lens I can replicate. Unless I'm missing something, other than getting 1000mm from the 500mm with the 2x TC but then I'm down to f/11, unless I'm mistaken, you can't use a 2xTC with a combined f stop over f/8. (Hope I said that right)[/quote]

I thought having a 500mm that you could use with your D750 and shoot at higher ISO might be a solution for your dilemma. You found the noise from your D7000 unacceptable, so this would allow you to get similar reach with lower noise in your images using the D750. The truth is there is no DX body/lens combo that will give you the same low light performance as this combo because with the D750 you can shoot at much higher ISO's and still get clean images.

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Nov 18, 2015 09:55:59   #
shutterbob Loc: Tucson
 
I have a D750, D7100, &D5300. I used to have a D7000 but traded it in for the 7100. Big difference in night shooting between the two. I have read that the D7200 is even better. But all of the cropped sensor bodies are at a disadvantage when compared to the D750. The smaller pixels just can't compete. If you want another body, especially for night shooting, then put that 'holy trinity' to good use and buy either a D750 or D810.

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Nov 18, 2015 10:46:30   #
FiddleMaker Loc: Merrimac, MA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Unfortunately, you've answered your own question. What you really want is another D750. Maybe there are - or will be - refurbs available. I was in a similar situation a while back, and I got another D750. The newer D7000 series are better than the D7000, but you'll always be wishing you had another D750. I think Nikon has a sale on cameras and lenses now.

EDIT: Yes - http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-store/cameras-on-sale.page

http://camerasize.com/
http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM
http://snapsort.com/compare
http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/cameras?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=mainmenu&utm_medium=text&ref=mainmenu
http://www.imaging-resource.com/cameras/compare/
Unfortunately, you've answered your own question. ... (show quote)

Jerry, you mention above that you "got another D750". So now you have two D750s or am I reading this wrong.
I did not know that the D750 is so much better in low light than my older D7000. I suppose if I was rolling in $$, I would updgrade my D7000 to a D7100 or D7200 but I probably wouldn't get that much use out of it because I tend to use the D750 far more than the D7000. What I do like about the D7000 is that it is much lighter in weight than the D750 which is equipped with a 28-300 mm hunk of glass. -FiddleMaker :lol:

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Nov 18, 2015 11:17:53   #
Hkhabe Loc: Carlsbad, CA
 
Curious, does anyone here think buying a "refurbished" 24-70 f2.8 lens from Nikon is a good idea? Its about $500 cheaper than a new one. Any thoughts appreciated.

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Nov 18, 2015 11:43:24   #
OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey
 
moonhawk wrote:
Using a 2X TC is part of the reason your images aren't sharp.

Consider the new Nikon 200-500 f/5.6. 750mm crop factor with your D7000, and no TC needed.

The lens is extremely sharp, and the VR is just outstanding.

Noise reduction in PP is fairly trivial.


I don't have a sharpness issue at all with the 2.0 TC when it's mounted on the D750...or any other combination for that matter. It's when it's on the 7000, even without using a TC lens 7000 images are no where near the sharpness I know are possible with the glass I own. Be it manually focused, auto, even tried fine tuning didn't help (not that they needed to be (surprised at that). Personally...(based on others opinions of how well they think the 7000 is as far as noise and sharpness) I think I got me a dud...or it just plain sucks...when I purchase another body, the 7000 will for sure be going in for a check up. For the time being, it's a backup...

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Nov 18, 2015 11:59:40   #
Bear2 Loc: Southeast,, MI
 
Bought my D7000 in June of 2012, and still love it. Two weeks ago I also bought a D7200, and all I can saw is WOW. Much better image quality, 24megs vs 16, much better low light, faster focus, wi-fi + much more, and all with the same lens. The controls are very similar to your D750. I know the D7100 is great, but if you already have a D750, why mess around, go to the D7200.
Hope this helps.
Duane


quote=OnDSnap]I need something better in low light, and simply a sharper image... I also have a D750 along with the so called Holy trinity lenses plus some. So glass isn't the issue. After shooting a while with the D750 and comparing the results I get with my D7000...which is huge. Aside from the obvious, I was thinking maybe replacing the D7000 with either the D7100 or D7200. Thoughts? Advice? from current owners of the latter two.
I usually (when shooting sports) under lights (normally) carry both cameras, one for my 24-70 f/2.8 and the other for my 70-200 f/2.8 (sometimes with a 1.4 or 2.0 TC). With the D7000+70-200+2.0 tc (600mm) @ f/5.6, 1/500 to 1/1000th I have to at times crank up the ISO to 1600 & 3200. So, noise as expected is an issue. (I at times don't have that much time between shoot and delivery so if needed & can hurt having to PP for noise via Photo Ninja.) I hate to give up the 600mm reach on the D7000. When the 70-200+2.0 t.c. mounted on the D750, no problem with noise but we're back to reality of 400mm @5.6 1/500-1/1000th. I was even thinking of back peddling to a D700 for low light...but I loose the 600. (which I shouldn't have sold for the d7000) but with all the hype of low noise with the D7000, maybe it's me, I just don't see it. the question for those who have moved from the 7000, Is the 7100 or 7200 any better?[/quote]

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