Difficult situation (Page 5): Given the described circumstances, I would email or by some other means, your feelings, "it was rude, disrespectful and unethical of them. in my opinion"...

markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ

Given the described circumstances, I would email or by some other means, your feelings, "it was rude, disrespectful and unethical of them. in my opinion"

Good luck.
Mark

ronichas wrote:

thanks for your input. he is a supporter and i am sure that is why they posted a thankyou and his link. i understand that, point being i was the designated photographer, they knew it and he knew it. it was rude, disrespectful and unethical of them. in my opinion...

GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan

Clarification please:

I'm trying to understand your origional post and this is my interpretation of it.

Basically you were "volunteered", and he or she was just an like an "Uncle Bob" at a wedding. In this case the event. Then they posted his information as the photographer.

Or

He or she was the main photographer and you were a 2nd to that person.

Which is correct, or did I miss something?

Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia

ronichas wrote:

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These individuals did not understand what they did are not going to understand your reasoning or concerns. Hard as it may be, back away and occupy your time with other successes and events and don't engage the group in the future. Volunteer for others but that being said,in the future be specific and out it in writing - your expectations, intentions, deliverable, timeline and most important retain rights over your work, especially since it was not paid for. That means they are not to use images outside of their intended use without your expressed written persimmon.

If you really want to to get your point across, demand that they remove your work from their website immediately. They did not pay for it, you retain all rights to it! Since likely you will never be asked by them again, I would do it, in a heart beat! Send them a certified letter of quit and demand letter and 24 hours to complete. Include that they are not to be used, printed, displayed, stored or cataloged in digital or printed form. They must be destroyed/deleted. - and then if they fail, taken them to court.

You did not sign a contract, you have no obligations. You retain full rights to the work..

SonyBug

I think people just being people. No manners or consideration. The younger they are, seems like the less manners they have. Just an example of the me, me, society. I would write the letter, and explain how rude that was. But, if asked again, I would decline. I have experienced somewhat the same situation, and now decline. Don't make a big deal over it, as I am not like them, and don't want to get painted with the same brush.

Ralloh Loc: Ohio

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I would tell them, in the future don't call me, I'll call you. Then have nothing more to do with them. But that's just me.

qrpnut Loc: Brattleboro, Vt.

And finally, refer them to this posting to show them who fellow photographers unanimously think the real dork is. They were over the top rude and unappreciative.

Don Fischer Loc: Antelope, Ore

So, was it a volunteer job or not? If it was, what are you getting upset about? You volunteered and did what you said you would. Let it go and don't volunteer again.

Papa Joe Loc: Midwest U.S.

ronichas wrote:

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My thoughts? Naturally, we all like to get credit for our work, but really, since it was for a good cause you believed in, did you do it more for the credit or for the cause? I would chalk it up to experience and proudly go on from there, knowing I did something nice of my own free will that helped out. Those who know you, and we Hoggers, appreciate what you've done to help.

markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ

Papa Joe wrote:

My thoughts? Naturally, we all like to get credit for our work, but really, since it was for a good cause you believed in, did you do it more for the credit or for the cause? I would chalk it up to experience and proudly go on from there, knowing I did something nice of my own free will that helped out. Those who know you, appreciate what you've done to help.

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Mark

ole sarg Loc: south florida

No good deed will go unpunished!

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Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal

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Questions I would ask myself:

How much aggravation is it worth? How much am I involved with this charity and who am I likely to alienate? Do I risk looking petty in the process?

Of course, only you can answer those questions. When I was is a similar situation a few years back, I decided to just close the page and move on. And I politely refused all subsequent requests from this organization.

Good luck.

Leon S Loc: Minnesota

In a few days I will be involved in a very worthwhile charitable event. Like you, we were asked to volunteer our time and efforts. We will even go further to provide a 4x6 for a specific donation to the event. That's our contribution. Expecting more is not giving a donation without strings and really only serves as a method of advertising your own services. What you described is regrettable and their response really poorly written, but their goal is to raise as much money for the charity as possible. Complaining will only get you a black eye within this community and anyone else that becomes privy to your complaints. When I volunteer, I expect no rewards.

Dale40203 Loc: Louisville, KY

ronichas wrote:

i did not have a contract. i was asked to volunteer to take photos. do volunteers get contracts?

You mentioned in you original post that the possibility existed for others to purchase your photos. That is an option worth protecting with an agreement of exclusivity. Worth considering the next time you do volunteer work.

Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia

nikonbug wrote:

I think people just being people. No manners or consideration. The younger they are, seems like the less manners they have. Just an example of the me, me, society. I would write the letter, and explain how rude that was. But, if asked again, I would decline. I have experienced somewhat the same situation, and now decline. Don't make a big deal over it, as I am not like them, and don't want to get painted with the same brush.

Age has nothing to do with it. You can be ignorant and inconsiderate at 12, 21 or 91.

StevenBrownPhoto Loc: Excelsior, MN

ronichas wrote:

i won't work for the charity or the event planner.
what i was looking for was some feedback on how others might handle this, do others think i should have not said anything, or should i have stood up for myself.

Hi Roni. I have done similar work, sometimes as the only photographer and also as part of a team. Small town politics can come into play, and if you don't come from that small town, good luck. I would tell them what I thought and move on.